# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 337
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6722 "2017-06-15T17:03:37Z")
> [@scr4](#): > > The consequence is that you, and people like you, get to criticize them as an unreliable source. Which is almost nothing. If the source was named, then THAT person would suffer the consequences. But then, if the source was named, he probably would not give them the lies that they published. ---
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6723 "2017-06-15T17:04:55Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > … or ABC just made it up. Why would they make up something that could be proven false so quickly? Well OK, maybe _you_, **Okrahoma** , wouldn’t understand. But most other people are protective of their reputation, and try not to get caught with a lie. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6724 "2017-06-15T17:05:37Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Great. Please tell me what “consequences” ABC and the journalists involved suffered for their lies about the upcoming Comey testimony? Will you shut the fuck up you ignorant, belligerent, pathetic, despicable troll. Find a billy goat, and when you are through fucking it, eat it and hide under your bridge. At least the shitstains on humanity’s underwear, Conway, Huckabee, and Spicer, get paid for repeating this steady stream of bullshit meant to placate the ignorant masses who voted for the loofah-faced shitgibbon. Other than a handful of your other partisan super-trolls, everyone here knows that a rock in their garden is far more intelligent and engaging. Right wing lunatics of your ilk make the left wing lunatics look sane in comparison. ---
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6725 "2017-06-15T17:06:35Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Gloria Borger is not an “analyst”. She is a CNN journalist I was going by the article _you_ cited, which says: “Speaking on CNN air on Tuesday night, analyst Gloria Borger said…” ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6726 "2017-06-15T17:10:31Z")
> [@SaneBill](#): > > So Donald Trump was born in Jamaica. Isn’t that like West-Kenya or something ? Loathe though I am to admit it, it means he was born in the same zip code I was. But let us not let facts stop us from using his ‘Jamaican’ heritage to call into question his standing as a natural-born US citizen and thus his constitutional qualification to be president. It’s not like anyone got tired of the same argument from Trump for the past 8 years, right? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6727 "2017-06-15T17:14:23Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Great. Please tell me what “consequences” ABC and the journalists involved suffered for their lies about the upcoming Comey testimony? Sneer quotes from **Okrahoma** , for one. Devastating, considering how “sparingly” you “use” them. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6728 "2017-06-15T17:18:28Z")
> [@Kamino\_Neko](#): > > You expect him to believe anything other than the pure truths that drip from the lips of his Golden Messiah? > > You probably believe that he didn’t get 100% of the popular vote, too. What kind of fake news are you peddling? Everyone knows he got 150% of the popular vote. (200% if you don’t count the illegal voters trucked in by george soros to vote in the california elections.) > [@D\_Odds](#): > > Will you shut the fuck up you ignorant, belligerent, pathetic, despicable troll. Find a billy goat, and when you are through fucking it, eat it and hide under your bridge. At least the shitstains on humanity’s underwear, Conway, Huckabee, and Spicer, get paid for repeating this steady stream of bullshit meant to placate the ignorant masses who voted for the loofah-faced shitgibbon. Other than a handful of your other partisan super-trolls, everyone here knows that a rock in their garden is far more intelligent and engaging. Right wing lunatics of your ilk make the left wing lunatics look sane in comparison. Hey, just because he’s paid in rubles doesn’t mean he doesn’t get paid. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6729 "2017-06-15T17:25:41Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > [In lighter news](http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article156059074.html), man robs bank, telling wife he would rather be in jail than at home. Judge disagrees, sentences man to six months of home confinement. > > Fuck’in Trump. Ya know, that’s actually a pretty great story. The way you characterize it is so far from the truth tho that your version deserves the moniker “not even wrong”. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6730 "2017-06-15T17:27:30Z")
> [@SaneBill](#): > > … > So Donald Trump was born in Jamaica. Isn’t that like West-Kenya or something ? :rolleyes: This is how rumors get started. “Jamaica, Queens, New York (NY) (United States)” ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6731 "2017-06-15T17:30:53Z")
> [@SaneBill](#): > > So Donald Trump was born in Jamaica. Isn’t that like West-Kenya or something ? Can’t we leave Kanye West out of this? [I have it on good authority that he’s a jackass](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=078BGtKNL1o). ETA: What? Kenya? Not Kanye? [Emily Litella]Never mind[/Emily Literal]. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6732 "2017-06-15T17:32:52Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > :rolleyes: > > This is how rumors get started. > > “Jamaica, Queens, New York (NY) (United States)” Jamaica mistake, **SaneBill**? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6733 "2017-06-15T17:34:23Z")
> [@scr4](#): > > I was going by the article _you_ cited, which says: “Speaking on CNN air on Tuesday night, analyst Gloria Borger said…” So that’s two lies you’ve caught **Okrahoma** telling… I think a hat trick gets you a free hot dog at Nathan’s! ---
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6734 "2017-06-15T17:42:59Z")
> [@scr4](#): > > I was going by the article _you_ cited, which says: “Speaking on CNN air on Tuesday night, analyst Gloria Borger said…” She doesn’t seem to be anonymous either. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6735 "2017-06-15T17:47:13Z")
But other than that… ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6736 "2017-06-15T18:06:24Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Ya know, that’s actually a pretty great story. The way you characterize it is so far from the truth tho that your version deserves the moniker “not even wrong”. Well, the point was that its just like the Trump Administration. Pick your facts. So yeah, “not even wrong”. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6737 "2017-06-15T18:19:08Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Jamaica mistake…? Nah, I didn’t even kiss 'er. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6738 "2017-06-15T18:20:54Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > … or ABC just made it up. You make a profound point. The New York Times just “makes up” news. ABC News just “makes up” news. How could anyone take these people seriously when all they do is make things up? ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6739 "2017-06-15T18:26:44Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > You make a profound point. The New York Times just “makes up” news. ABC News just “makes up” news. How could anyone take these people seriously when all they do is make things up? Would I find your list of newsgroups that don’t “make up” news hilarious? Just asking. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6740 "2017-06-15T18:36:30Z")
> [@scr4](#): > > Since ABC confirmed it through multiple sources, the most likely explanation is that Comey did say that to several people. He may have changed his mind later, or purposefully misled those people for some reason. Maybe it’s just me, but the whole “you’re not under investigation” thing always seemed to me to be kind of somewhat deliberately misleading doubletalk on Comey’s part - as in, Trump the ever altruist wanted to know if he, himself was personally being looked at (and fuck everyone else) ; while Comey would answer “no, you’re not under investigation (not personally, we’re looking at the globality of Russia’s involvement of which you are only one part)”. A mathematician’s or lawyer’s answer if you will. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6741 "2017-06-15T18:40:06Z")
If that’s even what Comey said, and not just a case of Trump thinking he heard just what he wanted to hear. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=336) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=338)