# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6902 "2017-06-17T13:45:36Z")

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> [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](#):
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> To give her credit, she organized a large wedding with Donald Trump as the boss. That takes some effort to pull off.

Does she have any experience with Arabian horses? She could be going places!

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**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6903 "2017-06-17T13:57:57Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Yep. His EO’s have no substance other than to overturn something that others took time to thoughtfully examine and research.
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> But it makes him feel like he’s ‘presidentin’.

that’s about it, I’m afraid ☹

dumb fucker :mad:

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**Author:** ![andrewm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c57346/32.png) [@andrewm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andrewm)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6904 "2017-06-17T14:02:20Z")

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> [@cuauhtemoc](#):
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> Maybe one of our lawyers can help explain this to me: If Marc Kasowitz is Tpurm’s personal attorney in this matter, then isn’t his ONLY job to advocate for Tmurp himself?
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> And if so, what business does he have recommending White House staff not to hire their their own lawyers?
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> Is this Turmp’s advocate telling his staff on his behalf “Don’t worry, I’ll take care of you, I’ll loyally protect your legal interests alongside my own?” And if so, how dumb would a person have to be to believe that?

He had absolutely no business saying that, and he is now facing ethics complaints in both NY and DC as a result: [http://www.law.com/sites/almstaff/2017/06/15/kasowitz-hit-with-ethics-complaints-in-ny-dc-over-white-house-advice](http://www.law.com/sites/almstaff/2017/06/15/kasowitz-hit-with-ethics-complaints-in-ny-dc-over-white-house-advice)

When I heard the “Trump lawyer hires himself a lawyer” headline, I initially assumed it was about this incident.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6905 "2017-06-17T14:29:34Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Russian nesting dolls.

You have to do a Google image search for: trump lawyer russian nestin doll

I’m going to be awake all night because I can’t stop laughing.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6906 "2017-06-17T15:08:34Z")

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[Quote=Rick Kitchen]  
Katy Tur of NBC News is reporting that Trump’s lawyer, Michael Cohen, has lawyered up himself.  
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When your lawyer lawyers up, you know you’re fucked. Meanwhile they’re telling the rest of the so called “staff” NOT to lawyer up…

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> “Is this Turmp’s advocate telling his staff on his behalf “Don’t worry, I’ll take care of you, I’ll loyally protect your legal interests alongside my own?” And if so, how dumb would a person have to be to believe that? “

Pretty fucking dumb.

> [@Maus magill](#):
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> It makes his job of tossing them under the bus much easier if they don’t have lawyers.

Exactly.

> [@Inner Stickler](#):
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> I wouldn’t be surprised to see the republicans start arguing that lack of a rebuke from Congress on the accepting of emoluments constitutes a de facto consent.

Hmmmm Repubs pretty much own the House, the Senate, and the White House right now. So they’re saying … if they don’t order THEMSELVES to knock it off, it’s OK. Anyway, the Emoluments Clause is already in the Constitituion regardless what slimy shit weasel words they try to use. So it’s kind of like murder is still illegal, even if you get away with it?

> [@Gorsnak](#):
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> Well, it’s not like there are any major urban centers in NY or NJ. Shouldn’t be a problem.

They could have given the job to his slumlord son in law instead.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6907 "2017-06-17T15:26:45Z")

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OK, this is too weird not to share:

My wife and I are having coffee and listening to the news, which reports that our president is spending the weekend at Camp David (for the first time). Wife asks: where, specifically, in Maryland is Camp David?

I’m sitting at the laptop anyway, so I volunteered to bring up Maps (the Apple app, not Google). I did a search for Camp David Maryland.

It dropped a pin in Moscow.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6908 "2017-06-17T15:35:56Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> OK, this is too weird not to share:
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> My wife and I are having coffee and listening to the news, which reports that our president is spending the weekend at Camp David (for the first time). Wife asks: where, specifically, in Maryland is Camp David?
> 
> I’m sitting at the laptop anyway, so I volunteered to bring up Maps (the Apple app, not Google). I did a search for Camp David Maryland.
> 
> It dropped a pin in Moscow.

I tried this on both my laptop and my desktop (both Macs) and both times it showed me Camp David in Catoctin Mountain Park, Sabillasville, MD.

Yes, I typed in “camp david maryland” (no quotation marks, of course).

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6909 "2017-06-17T15:53:17Z")

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I thought he refused to go to Camp David because it was too rustic.

Perhaps General Mattis and his security staff convinced him that Mara Largo was not a secure location and too easy to signal intercept.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6910 "2017-06-17T15:55:19Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> So Donald Trump is basically [Belkar Bitterleaf](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0335.html) with a Twitter account?

Except instead of “lust” it’s “con”. I’m not convinced Trump has any interest in women except as a way of “keeping score”.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6911 "2017-06-17T16:27:03Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> I tried this on both my laptop and my desktop (both Macs) and both times it showed me Camp David in Catoctin Mountain Park, Sabillasville, MD.
> 
> Yes, I typed in “camp david maryland” (no quotation marks, of course).

Not sure if this will work…testing.

[![](https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/96liquc9kfmxtg5/Screenshot%202017-06-17%2009.25.59.png?dl=0) ](https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/96liquc9kfmxtg5/Screenshot%202017-06-17%2009.25.59.png?dl=0)

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6912 "2017-06-17T16:32:48Z")

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There’s a clothing store in Moscow named [Camp David](https://www.facebook.com/pages/Camp-David/619501564808862).(Facebook)

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6913 "2017-06-17T16:34:54Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> There’s a clothing store in Moscow named [Camp David](https://www.facebook.com/pages/Camp-David/619501564808862).(Facebook)

Aha. So there’s an explanation other than “funny guy at Apple HQ”.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6914 "2017-06-17T16:35:06Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Not sure if this will work…testing.
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> [Dropbox](https://www.dropbox.com/s/96liquc9kfmxtg5/Screenshot%202017-06-17%2009.25.59.png?dl=0)

I can’t replicate your results, is all.

> [@running\_coach](#):
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> There’s a clothing store in Moscow named [Camp David](https://www.facebook.com/pages/Camp-David/619501564808862).(Facebook)

Even when I type in “camp david moscow” I still get a map of Maryland.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6915 "2017-06-17T16:36:26Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Aha. So there’s an explanation other than “funny guy at Apple HQ”.

Curiously, typing in “mordor” also gives me a map in Maryland. Specifically, of Mordor Lane in Hanover.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6916 "2017-06-17T16:37:19Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> I can’t replicate your results, is all.  
> Even when I type in “camp david moscow” I still get a map of Maryland.

I used “camp david in moscow russia”.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6917 "2017-06-17T16:41:01Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> I thought he refused to go to Camp David because it was too rustic.

Trump just needs to order a case of gold spray paint for the toilets.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6918 "2017-06-17T17:12:05Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Curiously, typing in “mordor” also gives me a map in Maryland. Specifically, of Mordor Lane in Hanover.

I’m in Minnesota. When I went to Google Maps and typed in ‘Mordor’, it gave me Mordor Tattoos in Arlington, Washington. 😛

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**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6919 "2017-06-17T17:31:24Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> I’m in Minnesota. When I went to Google Maps and typed in ‘Mordor’, it gave me Mordor Tattoos in Arlington, Washington. 😛

Keep in mind that Google follows you all over and through all your devices; it reads your emails, sees your searches, records your voice, knows where you drive, what your bills are, who your friends are and depending on the apps you have, what you eat and when you sleep. The results you get in your Google-based searches, regardless of which Google product you use, will reflect its best attempt to give you a complete result.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6920 "2017-06-17T17:33:55Z")

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The Rhode Island Teacher of the Year got to visit the Oval Office and have his picture taken with Trump and Melania. He’s gay, so he wore a rainbow pin and broke out a black lace fan to fan himself with while the picture was taken.

> **[Teacher Of The Year Gets Oval Office Photo Taken With His Lace Fan &...](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/6/16/1672616/-Teacher-Of-The-Year-Gets-Oval-Office-Photo-Taken-With-His-Lace-Fan-Rainbow-Pin?detail=facebook)**
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> Nikos Giannopoulos won the Teacher of the Year Award in Rhode Island this year and got a chance to have his pix taken with Trump and Melania in the Oval Office. He came prepared with black lace fan and rainbow pin. Of the time he spent in the Oval...

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/6921 "2017-06-17T17:49:21Z")

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> [@Nawth\_Chucka](#):
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> Keep in mind that Google follows you all over and through all your devices; it reads your emails, sees your searches, records your voice, knows where you drive, what your bills are, who your friends are and depending on the apps you have, what you eat and when you sleep. The results you get in your Google-based searches, regardless of which Google product you use, will reflect its best attempt to give you a complete result.

Exactly. Given my proclivity for research, their algorithms must just reach a point where they go “oh, that guy again”. Like designing my Pathfinder/D&D world and I get to an interesting question in my mind and I do a ton of research on the subject. Like Barrels. In 1884, Minneapolis produced 7 million barrels of flour. Not sacks, seven million actual wooden barrels. You never hear about how huge an industry that sort of thing was to support all the flour making.

And when they were occupying the nature reserve, I ordered a bag of penis shaped candy and sent it directly there. That stuff was in my Amazon recs for a while afterwards. 😃

And while everyone out there is getting Alexa or Siri or whatever, I’m not, because I think things like [this](http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/listening) and say no.

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