# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/channing_idaho_banks/32/250_2.png) [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Channing_Idaho_Banks)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7063 "2017-06-21T17:15:03Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> The new head of the Education Department’s office that deals with student loans is the CEO of a company that makes student loans for profit.  
> [Betsy DeVos Picked A Student Loan CEO To Run The Student Loan System](https://www.buzzfeed.com/mollyhensleyclancy/betsy-devos-picked-a-student-loan-ceo-to-manage-your?utm_term=.ok26YAn9E#.hsXWldvMZ)

It was easy to see this coming, but how does something like this happen?

How do (can) you rank conflict of interest with this administration?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7064 "2017-06-21T17:16:06Z")

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All you have to do is \*say \*you’re going to drain the swamp and fix everything, and enough fools will believe you.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7065 "2017-06-21T17:22:11Z")

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> [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](#):
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> It was easy to see this coming, but how does something like this happen?
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> How do (can) you rank conflict of interest with this administration?

Trump: "We won with poorly educated. I love the poorly educated.”

That’s how.

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**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7066 "2017-06-21T18:15:42Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Trump: "We won with poorly educated. I love the poorly educated.”
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> That’s how.

And he’s going to do his best to keep them that way and add to their ranks.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7067 "2017-06-21T19:26:25Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Would they all be lawyering up if the leaks were all about fake news and lies?

As much as I’m not happy with the current administration, I don’t necessarily take that as evidence or even suggestive of anything. It would seem to me to be a rational proactive move if you expect a legal onslaught.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7068 "2017-06-21T19:56:03Z")

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> [@Crotalus](#):
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> I think that the number of folks who are hiring lawyers is strong evidence in favor of the theory that [Flynn is singing like a canary](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/sheldon-whitehouse-flynn-cooperating-special-counsel-russia-investigation).

It’s also consistent with just being smart and covering your ass.

If I was a part of this administration our of sheer “I wanna be a big shot in Washington” avarice, but was totally unconnected to all this nonsense and treason and saw all this going down, I’d get a lawyer, too.

Speculation Flynn is talking is just wishful thinking. I’ll believe Flynn is talking when we hear what he said. He asked for immunity and didn’t get it, so I see no reason he’d talk.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7069 "2017-06-21T20:00:14Z")

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Oh, ffs. The State Department is investigating Hillary’s emails yet again. And Fox News is all jubilant.

> **[State Department probes Clinton handling of government emails, could pull her...](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/state-department-probes-clinton-handling-of-government-emails-could-pull-her-security-clearance)**
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> The State Department has opened a formal inquiry into whether former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and her aides mishandled classified information while she was the nation’s top diplomat, Fox News has learned. Despite the investigation, Clinton...

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7070 "2017-06-21T20:37:03Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Oh, ffs. The State Department is investigating Hillary’s emails yet again. And Fox News is all jubilant.  
> [State Department probes Clinton handling of government emails, could pull her security clearance | Fox News](http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/20/state-department-probes-clinton-handling-government-emails-could-pull-her-security-clearance.html)

Uh, I assume Judicial Watch has launched lawsuits to the current president for his continued use of his unsecured phone, right? And also the for recordings and the emails regarding Flynn and others involved with the Russians? /s

And yes, I did check, JW has demanded information of the travel costs of the current and past administrations; but no effort has been done about Trump’s unsecured phone or Russian material. JW should show that they do treat Republican politicians just the same.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7071 "2017-06-21T20:50:10Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> As much as I’m not happy with the current administration, I don’t necessarily take that as evidence or even suggestive of anything. It would seem to me to be a rational proactive move if you expect a legal onslaught.

But would that be coming if it were all lies and fake news?

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7072 "2017-06-21T20:58:58Z")

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It’s the same way I would act if I were innocent and became a person of interest in a criminal investigation, so yes.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7073 "2017-06-21T21:03:36Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Oh, ffs. The State Department is investigating Hillary’s emails yet again. And Fox News is all jubilant.  
> [State Department probes Clinton handling of government emails, could pull her security clearance | Fox News](http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/20/state-department-probes-clinton-handling-government-emails-could-pull-her-security-clearance.html)

This attempt to bolster his ratings should last about as long as the last one.

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**Author:** ![Trancephalic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trancephalic/32/380_2.png) [@Trancephalic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trancephalic)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7074 "2017-06-21T21:09:57Z")

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She was obviously colluding with a Nigerian prince.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7075 "2017-06-21T22:12:22Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Oh, ffs. The State Department is investigating Hillary’s emails yet again. And Fox News is all jubilant.  
> [State Department probes Clinton handling of government emails, could pull her security clearance | Fox News](http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/20/state-department-probes-clinton-handling-government-emails-could-pull-her-security-clearance.html)

I sure hope this gets cleared up before the next election. Can you imagine having a President who spends all her time time dealing with investigations of her and her staff, rather than doing her job?

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7076 "2017-06-21T22:17:31Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> I sure hope this gets cleared up before the next election. Can you imagine having a President who spends all her time time dealing with investigations of her and her staff, rather than doing her job?

If you’re suggesting Hillary will become president then, I hope you’re wrong. I want a president who’s not so damn old for a change.

Remember the times when you didn’t fear your president would get dementia? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7077 "2017-06-21T22:19:37Z")

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I think Tony was alluding to Trump. Not that Trump would “do his job,” regardless.

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7078 "2017-06-21T22:27:45Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> I think Tony was alluding to Trump. Not that Trump would “do his job,” regardless.

I think he said “her” a lot in his post, and Trump is probably male, I think.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7079 "2017-06-21T22:44:02Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Oh, ffs. The State Department is investigating Hillary’s emails yet again. And Fox News is all jubilant.  
> [State Department probes Clinton handling of government emails, could pull her security clearance | Fox News](http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/20/state-department-probes-clinton-handling-government-emails-could-pull-her-security-clearance.html)

What a bunch of fuck sticks

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7080 "2017-06-21T22:52:59Z")

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> [@begbert2](#):
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> I think he said “her” a lot in his post, and Trump is probably male, I think.

I think you got whooshed.

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**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7081 "2017-06-21T22:55:24Z")

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> [@begbert2](#):
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> I think he said “her” a lot in his post, and Trump is probably male, I think.

it was a quote from Trump about Clinton

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7082 "2017-06-21T22:57:49Z")

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> [@PatriotX](#):
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> it was a quote from Trump about Clinton

Well that’s my problem. I don’t pay much attention to the words that spew out of our retard in chief. Keeps my stress levels down.

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