# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 359
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7163 "2017-06-23T05:43:56Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Except, as pointed out twice upthread, it wasn’t Trump’s idea. He’s making everyone say it was his idea. Of COURSE It was Trump’s idea. He invented solar power, just after he wrote those award winning opera scores. Last week he got three, THREE hole-in-ones. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7164 "2017-06-23T05:57:10Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Of COURSE It was Trump’s idea. He invented solar power, just after he wrote those award winning opera scores. **Last week he got three, THREE hole-in-ones.** Even more incredible, it was on only two holes. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7165 "2017-06-23T08:36:22Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > There’s a few groups of people who voted for trump. > > You got your deplorables, your racist and bigot and whatnot. I do not know that % that this cohort makes up, but it is not insignificant. These are the ones who want to see the travel bans and build the wall and deportations, not because they think that they will be good for the country, but because they want to see suffering of “the other”. > > Then you got your one issue voters. Abortion, guns, religious stuff like that. The SC seat being held open by Mcconnell was a big hand there. These people voted for Trump because they won’t vote for a gun grabbing, baby killing, jesus hating librul. Many people stand by their vote for trump because he nominated gorsuch, as opposed to whoever clinton would have nominated. > > Then you got all your hoodwinked folks. All the people who believed trump’s promise that they would get their jobs back, that they would get a better healthcare system, that we would be a world leader in fighting terrorism. They got conned. Just as if they were driving off the used car lot in what they think is the best deal evAr, based on that slick talking car salesman, they think they got a good deal with trump. > > And, just as a person who got talked into buying a car that breaks down after 5 miles isn’t going to readily admit that they made a mistake, that they were gullible enough to believe the lies, these people will take a while to come around to the idea that they really were mislead, that they really did vote in such a way to compound their problems rather than solving them. > > As I’ve said before, these people can be fooled on the rhetoric and spin, but you cannot fool their pocketbooks. They will know if they and their friends and families are doing better financially. They will vote based on that. Democrats were not doing enough to address the issues that they faced, so they voted for republicans instead. Soon they will realize that the republicans refuse to even acknowledge, much less address and solve the issues that they face, and they will switch back to the democrats. Accurate and well-written summary, except: – you left out the rich and executive class, who expect Trump will lower their taxes and gut regulatory agencies and legislation, and – IMO you are way too optimistic in your last paragraph. Bush was an absolute disaster, and he got re-elected, and McCain only lost by seven points in spite of unpopular wars, an idiot running mate, the economy in shambles, and a huge surge in turnout by minorities taking the opportunity to vote for Obama. I think that there is a very large overlap between your third category (people who were conned) and your first two (deplorables and one-issue voters), and few of them are likely to flip. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7166 "2017-06-23T11:13:20Z")
[That dungheap in the White House finally admitted Russia meddled in the campaign](https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-house-concedes-russia-meddled-campaign-denies-changed-result-201048140.html). You folks remember that campaign last year, don’t you? It’s the one where the shithead said the Democrats were fixing the election on Clinton’s behalf, then he said it’s all a hoax because, of course his bestie, Putin, doesn’t do that, and now he’s admitting Moscow does do that! The next shoe to fall, no doubt, will be proof that Russian interference did alter the election’s outcome. That paragraph is the pitting of the arrogant ass the Republicans foolishly foisted on a nation that was, in fact, great prior to his election. Now on to the bigots, cowards, ignoramuses, and other assorted jerks who actually did vote for the jackass. You clowns helped destroy America’s reputation because you simply cannot think reasonably. You still support the jackass even after this latest revelation. Wow! What does Trump have to do for you to realize what a mistake he is, rape and murder your mother in front of you? And you parasites in Congress–That’s what you are if you don’t finally impeach the jackass. You’re just parasites destroying your host. I’d be delighted if Trump were to drop dead today. But I fear what would happen if he dies from either assassination or natural causes due to his horrid diet. Immediately after his death, some jackass supporter will kill at least one Muslim or immigrant or someone he’s sure enough is. Odd thought: The party whose symbol is not a jackass managed to get one elected. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7167 "2017-06-23T11:59:46Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > You still support the jackass even after this latest revelation. Wow! What does Trump have to do for you to realize what a mistake he is, rape and murder your mother in front of you? They would no doubt claim that their mothers wanted it. For their next act, the cretins that enable president shithead will support the “healthcare” bill that will make insurance more expensive and harder to get. They are that fucking stupid. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7168 "2017-06-23T12:17:48Z")
In typical Republican fashion, the new “healthcare” bill is primarily for putting a little more money into the wallets of the rich. Healthcare has got little to do with it. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7169 "2017-06-23T12:39:05Z")
After viewing the video clip at the following link\*: > **[Donald Trump may finally have gone too far](https://www.marketwatch.com/story/donald-trump-may-finally-have-gone-too-far-2017-06-22)** > > To almost half of America, Trump apparently can do no wrong. But tolerance has its limits, and the president’s latest offense is pushing them. …I think you will agree that this settles for all time that Mr. Trump, finally, at long last, has no sense of decency. Impeachment!! \*Clip shows Mr. Trump DRIVING HIS GOLF CART ON THE GREEN while playing a round at his club in Bedminster, NJ. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7170 "2017-06-23T12:49:45Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > You clowns helped destroy America’s reputation because you simply cannot think reasonably. You still support the jackass even after this latest revelation. Wow! What does Trump have to do for you to realize what a mistake he is, rape and murder your mother in front of you? Trumpists will simply deny it happened. Forget trying to convince Trumpists; they’re irrational. Please, just get the uninformed independents informed so Trump and his fellow traitors and the Christian fundamentalists who use them can be gotten rid of. The revelations are only going to keep getting worse. I called it a year ago and stick by it; Donald J. Trump is a traitor. He has probably already sold national secrets to (at least) Russia, or changed national policy to the detriment of the USA in exchange for cash or debt forgiveness, and he’ll do it some more. And even when it comes out he’s done these things, the Trumpists will cry “Fake news! Fake news!” and refuse to believe what is established fact. Reasonable people either have to start winning elections in the United States or the country is in serious trouble. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7171 "2017-06-23T15:46:51Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > Shit For Brains wants to build a [“Solar Wall”](https://www.yahoo.com/gma/trump-traveling-iowa-campaign-style-rally-161806758--abc-news-topstories.html) on the U.S.-Mexico border. :rolleyes: > > “We are thinking about building a wall as a solar wall,” he said. “So it creates energy. And pays for itself. And this way, Mexico will have to pay much less money. And that’s good, right? Is that good? You are the first group I’ve told that to. It makes sense. Let’s see. We are working it out. Solar wall panels. Think of it, the higher it goes, the more valuable it is. Pretty good imagination, right? _My idea_. We have a good shot. That’s one of the places where solar really does work. At the tremendous sun and heat. We will see what happens.” Great. Maybe he can get Mexico to buy the solar panels for us, even though they already told him to go fuck himself 😃 What a stupid bastard he is. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7172 "2017-06-23T15:48:03Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Of COURSE It was Trump’s idea. He invented solar power, just after he wrote those award winning opera scores. Last week he got three, THREE hole-in-ones. Hell, he invented THE SUN. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7173 "2017-06-23T15:52:51Z")
Heaven. He’s the sun of God in Heaven. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7174 "2017-06-23T15:53:49Z")
He’s a son of a _something_, to be sure. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7175 "2017-06-23T15:59:10Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > [That dungheap in the White House finally admitted Russia meddled in the campaign](https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-house-concedes-russia-meddled-campaign-denies-changed-result-201048140.html). You folks remember that campaign last year, don’t you? It’s the one where the shithead said the Democrats were fixing the election on Clinton’s behalf, then he said it’s all a hoax because, of course his bestie, Putin, doesn’t do that, and now he’s admitting Moscow does do that! The next shoe to fall, no doubt, will be proof that Russian interference did alter the election’s outcome. > > That paragraph is the pitting of the arrogant ass the Republicans foolishly foisted on a nation that was, in fact, great prior to his election. Now on to the bigots, cowards, ignoramuses, and other assorted jerks who actually did vote for the jackass. You clowns helped destroy America’s reputation because you simply cannot think reasonably. You still support the jackass even after this latest revelation. Wow! What does Trump have to do for you to realize what a mistake he is, rape and murder your mother in front of you? > > And you parasites in Congress–That’s what you are if you don’t finally impeach the jackass. You’re just parasites destroying your host. > > I’d be delighted if Trump were to drop dead today. But I fear what would happen if he dies from either assassination or natural causes due to his horrid diet. Immediately after his death, some jackass supporter will kill at least one Muslim or immigrant or someone he’s sure enough is. > > Odd thought: The party whose symbol is not a jackass managed to get one elected. As far as I’m concerned, Trump, Priebus, Pence, Flynn, McConnell, Manafort, Carter Page, Sessions, Millian, and all those other Repubs who SUDDENLY started pushing for a removal of Russia sanctions (and trying to derail the investigations) are all a bunch of traitors. And then we have the two Nazis, Bannon and Gorka. And finally, it seems every damn day, we see news that the Russian meddling went even deeper than we knew about the day before… and the fucking parasites in Congress KNEW about it. I want Rrump and all his buddies to rot in federal prison. The old school imprisonment with the ball and chain, bread and water, and hard labor— forever. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7176 "2017-06-23T16:01:11Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > As far as I’m concerned, Trump, Priebus, Pence, Flynn, McConnell, Manafort, Carter Page, Sessions, Millian, and all those other Repubs who SUDDENLY started pushing for a removal of Russia sanctions (and trying to derail the investigations) are all a bunch of traitors. And then we have the two Nazis, Bannon and Gorka. I thought Stephen Miller was a Nazi too? ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7177 "2017-06-23T16:02:29Z")
Fox News headline: Trump: “I did not tape Comey!” No, instead he put him into a gimp suit, wrapped him up in some chains, along with one of those ball gag things in his mouth. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7178 "2017-06-23T16:07:16Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I thought Stephen Miller was a Nazi too? I forgot that weasel. Oops! ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7179 "2017-06-23T16:19:46Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > In typical Republican fashion, the new “healthcare” bill is primarily for putting a little more money into the wallets of the rich. Healthcare has got little to do with it. The amazing thing is that this healthcare bill is aimed at financially helping me out at the expense of a lot of Trump supporters, and Trump supporters are laughing at me for opposing it. At a certain point, do I get to say, “Fine. Thanks for the tax cut that I didn’t ask for or need”? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7180 "2017-06-23T16:58:47Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > I forgot that weasel. Oops! That means you are in charge of him for the next 4 years. > [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > The amazing thing is that this healthcare bill is aimed at financially helping me out at the expense of a lot of Trump supporters, and Trump supporters are laughing at me for opposing it. At a certain point, do I get to say, “Fine. Thanks for the tax cut that I didn’t ask for or need”? Wait until they or one of their loved ones are on their deathbed, dying from something that could have been prevented had they had access to affordable health insurance. They will be more grateful for your thanks that way, knowing that their sacrifice is saving you money on your taxes. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7181 "2017-06-23T17:02:21Z")
Trump is so fucked up that Canada is [heading off on its own for foreign policy](http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thehouse/a-made-in-canada-foreign-policy-1.4151108) rather than working as as team with the USA. We tried sending down Trudeau to suck up to Trump, but that failed, so now, [the Prime Minister is sending our secret weapon: Gary](https://youtu.be/fJTNut1VSEw?t=8s). ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7182 "2017-06-23T17:03:09Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > The amazing thing is that this healthcare bill is aimed at financially helping me out at the expense of a lot of Trump supporters, and Trump supporters are laughing at me for opposing it. At a certain point, do I get to say, “Fine. Thanks for the tax cut that I didn’t ask for or need”? Yeah, that’s what I tell my wife when she’s in a Trump inspired rage. We’ll actually save quite a bit in taxes if he’s successful at anything. Big _if_, I know. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=358) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=360)