# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7283 "2017-06-25T01:10:08Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Which is why the evil side of me wants the Republicans to pass Trumpcare. Yes, many innocent people will be harmed. But many of Dolt 45’s supporters will learn what it is they voted for, after having been told numerous times that losing their own benefits is what they’re voting for. It’s not that I don’t have compassion. It’s just that I’ve run out of sympathy.

I don’t doubt that there are poverty-stricken Trump supporters, just as there are uber-wealthy supporters of the Democratic party. But I suspect that progressives and the population generally doesn’t really understand the typical Trump voter. I suspect that the typical Trump voter is not the opioid addict or wheelchair bound hard-luck story; it’s probably more like the white suburbanite or Anytown, USA resident with a high school education who’s actually doing fairly well financially. He’s facing anxieties and pressures like anyone else, but he’s making it. He owns a house, owns or has a role in a small to mid-size business, has kids in good school districts, and saving for retirement. It’s common knowledge that Trump did well among the less educated. What coastal progressives don’t understand is that there are actually a substantial number of people without college degrees who are financially better off than many of the millennials who went out and spent $200,000 to get a master’s level education. That’s why the average Trump voter couldn’t give a fuck about making college more affordable – they didn’t go to college and they’re just fine. If you were dumb enough to sink money that could have gone to a mortgage to ‘better yourself’ instead…that’s your problem, not theirs.

You can wish them pain all you want, but you won’t convince anyone of anything. You’ll just be rejoicing in the misery of people who are probably as likely to support a democrat as an independent or republican, or stay at home and support nobody at all.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7284 "2017-06-25T01:11:20Z")

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Unfortunately, you are filling in the blanks incorrectly.

Rural America went for Trump big time, and most of those people are not rich.

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**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7285 "2017-06-25T01:22:50Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> It will get blamed on the Democrats/libtards/Obama and they’ll believe every word of it.

Guaran-fuckin-tee it.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7286 "2017-06-25T01:23:07Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> I’ve always viewed Trump supporters as, well, somewhat “Queer” in the sense that their mere being defies natural selection.

The way they are able to change opinion so quickly – to flip the hand without the least rigidity and point the finger in the opposite direction, as it were – has led ME to view them as “limp-wristed.”

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7287 "2017-06-25T01:38:43Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Unfortunately, you are filling in the blanks incorrectly.
> 
> Rural America went for Trump big time, and most of those people are not rich.

What he said.

> [@asahi](#):
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> You’ll just be rejoicing in the misery of people who are probably as likely to support a democrat as an independent or republican, or stay at home and support nobody at all.

Except they didn’t, and they are to blame when they lose their health care, or lose their homes when they become ill, or when Mom gets tossed out of the nursing home.

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**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7288 "2017-06-25T01:49:52Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> The “Obama teleprompter” meme is kind of a shibboleth, by which we can identify people who only know what Fox News and Rush Limbaugh tell them, and discount the evidence of their own eyes. Obama got tagged with that canard on Day One, and it persisted in right-wing talking points for 8 years. So anyone who makes that claim can be dismissed as totally uninterested in using their own brain cells.

Why, exactly, is preparing for a speech a bad thing? Yes - someone used a teleprompter. To me, it means they cared about their message, took time to craft a speech, chose their words, did background research, and made sure that they had their facts straight. (As a listener, it also means that they are less likely to go over time, because the speech is timed.)  
It’s evidence that a person has done their damn homework. I want my leaders to have thought about shit before they talk. Why is that vilified and scorned?

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(Also, we live in the world of youtube, ffs. There’s plenty of evidence of Obama speaking without a teleprompter. But even if there weren’t, and he only always spoke after having written and rehearsed his words - still not a bad thing.)

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7289 "2017-06-25T01:52:58Z")

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[What do you know](https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-energy-appointee-apos-155955236.html), Bradford is just as stupid on social media as his boss. Seriously, is there anyone at all in the current administration who isn’t an embarrassment?

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7290 "2017-06-25T01:58:12Z")

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It has basically become impossible to tell liberals pretending to be stupid from actual trump supporters.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7291 "2017-06-25T02:06:51Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> [What do you know](https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-energy-appointee-apos-155955236.html), Bradford is just as stupid on social media as his boss. Seriously, is there anyone at all in the current administration who isn’t an embarrassment?

[Trump supporter] Yeah, but how is any of that racist? [Ts]

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7292 "2017-06-25T02:33:19Z")

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I am laughing my ass off. Both Bernie and Hillary have made comments about the number of people who will die as a result of Trumpcare, and the Republicans are whining about the “lack of civility”. Er, “death camps”, anybody?

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7293 "2017-06-25T02:36:48Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Unfortunately, you are filling in the blanks incorrectly.
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> Rural America went for Trump big time, and most of those people are not rich.

Well, they weren’t. But they are now, because TRUMP!

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7294 "2017-06-25T02:40:51Z")

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> [@Enuma\_Elish](#):
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> I started to read your list and then realized that it wasn’t a list of Trump’s lies, but a list of lies the left claims of Trump.
> 
> Do you have a list of Bill Clinton’s lies?
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> Do you have a list of Obama’s lies?
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> Do you have a list of Hillary’s lies?
> 
> Obviously not.
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> **I hated having to vote for Trump. He was the lesser of two evils.** But people like you -liberals who can’t see, or refuse to see, the faults in everyone, made my vote easier.

Bolding mine.

Bwahaahahahhahhhah…

You couldn’t see Trumps faults as he came out and told everyone about them? You couldn’t see what a TOTAL ASSHOLE HE IS?

I don’t believe it. I believe that people that support Trump want to be just as big of a narcissistic, bulling blowhard that he is. Somehow, people admire him for being a horrible person.

Oh, we’re in the pit.

You’re a fucking idiot. Beyond help. Not much else to say to moron 45’s supporters anymore. Just stating the facts.

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**Author:** ![oft\_wears\_hats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@oft\_wears\_hats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oft_wears_hats)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7295 "2017-06-25T02:41:14Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> [What do you know](https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-energy-appointee-apos-155955236.html), Bradford is just as stupid on social media as his boss. Seriously, is there anyone at all in the current administration who isn’t an embarrassment?

Wow. What a piece of shit. He’ll fit right in.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7297 "2017-06-25T02:54:44Z")

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Well I’m convinced.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7298 "2017-06-25T02:55:24Z")

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_checks join date_

Yup…

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7299 "2017-06-25T02:58:40Z")

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> [@OkeyDokey](#):
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> WOW such hatred. 157 days in office and Trunp has accomplished more than KING HUSSIEN OBAMA BIN USAMA did is 8 f#cking years. AND that Migger racked up more debt than the past 43 presidents before him COMBINED. You are sorry ass loser LIBTARD who justs expects everything to be handed to you for FREE. Grow the Frig up already. Trump is WINNING BIG TIME and the libtard crybabies are losing so bad they are all imploding. Just blow your H++D off because your gravy train has ENDED, or just move out to Venezuela because this country would look like it right about now if CROOKED HILLARY got in you stupid ass

“Migger”? Seriously? Dude, if you want to call the former President a nigger, just call him a nigger. It’s still hate speech if you happen to change one letter.

So, you post your moutyh-foaming screed, the mods establish you are some previously banned poster’s sock, and away you go. Or you end up getting banned just for being a jerk. What do you believe you are accomplishing here?

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7300 "2017-06-25T03:01:10Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Unfortunately, you are filling in the blanks incorrectly.
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> Rural America went for Trump big time, and most of those people are not rich.

Nobody said they’re rich, but what is “rich” anyway? I talk a lot of people in rural America on a fairly regular basis. They might not have all have college degrees, but they’re not as poor as you think. They’re insecure and they have anxieties about their future prospects and those of their children, but actually, a lot of rural midwesterners are financially better off than a lot of educated millennials. You might think that because they don’t have a college degree that they’re ‘poor’ – not necessarily the case at all.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7301 "2017-06-25T03:02:45Z")

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What’s a “Migger?”

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7302 "2017-06-25T03:03:06Z")

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> [@OkeyDokey](#):
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> WOW such hatred. 157 days in office and Trunp has accomplished more than KING HUSSIEN OBAMA BIN USAMA did is 8 f#cking years. AND that Migger racked up more debt than the past 43 presidents before him COMBINED. You are sorry ass loser LIBTARD who justs expects everything to be handed to you for FREE. Grow the Frig up already. Trump is WINNING BIG TIME and the libtard crybabies are losing so bad they are all imploding. Just blow your H++D off because your gravy train has ENDED, or just move out to Venezuela because this country would look like it right about now if CROOKED HILLARY got in you stupid ass

Trolla’s gonna troll…:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7303 "2017-06-25T03:04:21Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> What’s a “Migger?”

Well, gee, what could it be?:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

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