# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 368
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7344 "2017-06-26T13:54:12Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > My money’s on “No, because Bill and/or Hillary \*something something \*Dark Side”. Yeah but it is kind of funny seeing them post it. The delusion in Trump’s remaining diehard supporters is comical. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7345 "2017-06-26T14:05:19Z")
> [@Enuma\_Elish](#): > > I haven’t had cable for 5+ years. I don’t watch fox news. Your assumptions show your hate and casual stereotyping. Your attitudes are why Trump won. Not my hate, sunshine, but your BS. So where exactly ARE you getting your misinformation from? And why are housewives always the most batshit crazy partisans? ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7346 "2017-06-26T14:19:09Z")
It cracks me up when people point at something that’s happening _now_ and say “This is why trump won.” As if something happening _now_ could affect the results of an event that took place last November. Hey, it’s not every day that someone invents a new logical fallacy: “Pre hoc, ergo propter hoc.” ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7347 "2017-06-26T14:38:35Z")
Well, and that whole “Trump won because you people are a bunch of meanieheads” is whining bullshit meant to guilt people who criticise the Great Orange Menace. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7348 "2017-06-26T14:47:15Z")
… and the travel ban is on. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7349 "2017-06-26T14:51:54Z")
Can we debate why Hillary lost, whether Bill Clinton rapes people, the durpiness of Trump supporters/libtards somewhere else? This thread is about exposing the fucking clusterfuck of the Trump administration. You’re all letting a mentally-challenged troll run this shit off the rails. By taking his bait and engaging him, you’re letting a furiously-masturbating moron outwit you for fuck’s sake. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7350 "2017-06-26T14:52:43Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > … and the travel ban is on. _Parts_ of the travel ban you hapless retard, only _parts_. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7351 "2017-06-26T14:55:53Z")
> [@Enuma\_Elish](#): > > I can’t fucking believe you don’t care if Bill Clinton raped under-aged girls on a billionaire’s jet. Whether you believe it or not, you are shit personified for just casually ignoring facts that reasonable people/media have reported while grabbing onto ‘facts’ that fake obviously lying obviously biased media reports. I can’t believe you don’t care Donald Trump raped under-aged girls at a billionaire’s parties. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7352 "2017-06-26T14:59:15Z")
> [@Enuma\_Elish](#): > > Why did I hold my nose and vote for Trump? Because he showed that he wouldn’t bow down and sell middle America out to a bunch of greedy international governments… Except he is. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7353 "2017-06-26T15:00:21Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > _Parts_ of the travel ban you hapless retard, only _parts_. Full ban, except: “The court did leave one category of foreigners protected, those “with a credible claim of a bona fide relationship with a person or entity in the United States”.” I’ll take that. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7354 "2017-06-26T15:14:08Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Full ban, except: “The court did leave one category of foreigners protected, those “with a credible claim of a bona fide relationship with a person or entity in the United States”.” > > I’ll take that. \*The court is allowing the ban to go into effect for foreign nationals who lack any “bona fide relationship with any person or entity in the United States.” The court, in an unsigned opinion, left the travel ban against citizens of six majority-Muslim on hold as applied to non-citizens with relationships with persons or entities in the United States, which includes most of the plaintiffs in both cases. \* Learn to read. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7355 "2017-06-26T15:26:36Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > \*The court is allowing the ban to go into effect for foreign nationals who lack any “bona fide relationship with any person or entity in the United States.” The court, in an unsigned opinion, left the travel ban against citizens of six majority-Muslim on hold as applied to non-citizens with relationships with persons or entities in the United States, which includes most of the plaintiffs in both cases. \* How is what you posted different from what I said? ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7356 "2017-06-26T15:52:43Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Anyone who thought Trump had class wasn’t paying attention. I’ve seen this quote about Trump: “Trump is a dumb person’s idea of a smart man. Trump is a weak person’s idea of a strong man. Trump is a poor man’s idea of a rich man.” ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7357 "2017-06-26T16:32:50Z")
Did we note [Jared Kushner’s company’s undisclosed $285 million loan from Deutsche Bank yet? > [@](#): > > One month before Election Day, Jared Kushner’s real estate company finalized a $285 million loan as part of a refinancing package for its property near Times Square in Manhattan. > > The loan came at a critical moment. Kushner was playing a key role in the presidential campaign of his father-in-law, Donald Trump. The lender, Deutsche Bank, was negotiating to settle a federal mortgage fraud case and charges from New York state regulators that it aided a possible Russian money-laundering scheme. The cases were settled in December and January. > [@](#): > > The corporate loan and Kushner’s personal guarantee are not mentioned on his financial disclosure form, filed with the Office of Government Ethics. ]([https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/kushner-firms-285-million-deutsche-bank-loan-came-just-before-election-day/2017/06/25/984f3acc-4f88-11e7-b064-828ba60fbb98\_story.html?tid=sm\_tw&utm\_term=.b6c25467ce88](https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/kushner-firms-285-million-deutsche-bank-loan-came-just-before-election-day/2017/06/25/984f3acc-4f88-11e7-b064-828ba60fbb98_story.html?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.b6c25467ce88)) ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7358 "2017-06-26T16:34:27Z")
You know how to hyperlink something less than the entire quote, don’t you? ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7359 "2017-06-26T16:53:03Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > You know how to hyperlink something less than the entire quote, don’t you? I gotta back you up on this one. I know you like doing the whole “quote is the link” trick, **Bo** , but underlined text is harder to read than normal text. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7360 "2017-06-26T16:55:31Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > … and the travel ban is on. Great. At long last, maybe we can stop this incessant wave of terrorist attacks we haven’t been having. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7361 "2017-06-26T17:16:46Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > You know how to hyperlink something less than the entire quote, don’t you? > [@steronz](#): > > I gotta back you up on this one. I know you like doing the whole “quote is the link” trick, **Bo** , but underlined text is harder to read than normal text. I have no idea what y’all are on about. The only underlined text in my previous post is " Jared Kushner’s company’s undisclosed $285 million loan from Deutsche Bank yet?" Using the quote boxes as hyperlinks doesn’t underline the text. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7362 "2017-06-26T17:19:34Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > How is what you posted different from what I said? Because the “travel ban” is **not** actually “on” for most of the people who went to law about it, nor for most of the people it was originally written to apply to. It’s as if you applied for a permit to lead a neo-Nazi march through town on the Fourth of July, received permission instead to hold a neo-Nazi rally in a suburban parking lot the following weekend, and announced the news by saying “_The march is on!_” ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7363 "2017-06-26T17:23:30Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I have no idea what y’all are on about. The only underlined text in my previous post is " Jared Kushner’s company’s undisclosed $285 million loan from Deutsche Bank yet?" > > Using the quote boxes as hyperlinks doesn’t underline the text. Not in your browser/OS it seems, it does in mine (Chrome/ Windows 7). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=367) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=369)