# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 378
**Author:** ![Enuma\_Elish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5e9695/32.png) [@Enuma\_Elish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enuma_Elish)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7544 "2017-06-30T12:12:48Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > How sad is it that I had to read a few sentences of that before realizing it wasn’t real? :eek: Do you know the definition of irony? Obviously not. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7545 "2017-06-30T12:14:30Z")
“Join Date: Mar 2001” If it weren’t for that I’d assume you’re a fucking sockpuppet. I’m kind of shocked a troll stuck around that long. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7546 "2017-06-30T12:14:51Z")
> [@Enuma\_Elish](#): > > The mountain range is three generations of slave-owning Democrats finding another way to enslave minorities so that power could come into the hands of ugly racist left-wing whites. Martin Luther King was a Republican. Poverty Pimps like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and every white Democrat stole his message to enslave minorities. Go away lying troll. Your ahistorical bullshit isn’t welcome here. ---
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7547 "2017-06-30T12:16:57Z")
> [@Enuma\_Elish](#): > > Martin Luther King was a Republican. David Duke was a republican. > **[MLK was a Republican and other myths | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2016/01/15/us/mlk-myths/index.html)** > > MLK was a Republican, opposed affirmative action and grew more radical at the end of his life. All those statements are bogus. We debunk the biggest MLK myths. "The Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. was a Republican. He opposed affirmative action. He grew so radical near the end of his life that he considered renouncing nonviolence. Which of those statements are true? None of them. **They’re all bogus.** The idea that King was a Republican is built on a historical sleight of hand. King’s father, the Rev. Martin Luther “Daddy” King Sr., was a Republican. But so were many blacks in the early to mid-20th century. Then the Republican Party was the party of Abraham Lincoln, the Great Liberator. That party identification, though, started shifting in the mid- to late 20th century as Democratic presidents began championing civil rights. (Daddy King publicly shifted allegiance to the Democrats when President John F. Kennedy displayed public sympathy for his son.) Legum, in an essay for ThinkProgress, cited a 1958 interview where King said, “I’m not inextricably bound to either party.” King, though, was particularly critical of the Republican Party’s selection of Barry Goldwater, an archconservative, as its 1964 presidential candidate. King worked closely with President Lyndon Johnson, a Democrat, to help spur the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the 1965 Voting Rights Act, two critical civil rights laws championed by Johnson. When Johnson ran for president in 1964, King let the public know which party he preferred, Legum says. “He was basically campaigning for Johnson in 1964,” Legum says of King " ---
**Author:** ![Enuma\_Elish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5e9695/32.png) [@Enuma\_Elish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enuma_Elish)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7548 "2017-06-30T12:20:29Z")
I find it more and more amusing that the lefties on this site use vulgarity to make their claims. The left is the party of hate, violence, and casual ignorance. I can’t feel hate for you - who have been educated by a disgusting generation of drug addled liberal morons - because in the end you don’t have the courage to seek the truth. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7549 "2017-06-30T12:23:23Z")
“You guys are so vulgar! Just what I’d expect from hateful, violent, cowardly, drug-addled morons.” ---
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7550 "2017-06-30T12:24:03Z")
> [@Enuma\_Elish](#): > > I find it more and more amusing that the lefties on this site use vulgarity to make their claims. > > The left is the party of hate, violence, and casual ignorance. I can’t feel hate for you - who have been educated by a disgusting generation of drug addled liberal morons - because in the end you don’t have the courage to seek the truth. truth + vulgarity \> civility + falsehoods imho obviously, ymmv ---
**Author:** ![Enuma\_Elish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5e9695/32.png) [@Enuma\_Elish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enuma_Elish)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7551 "2017-06-30T12:25:00Z")
David Duke was a Democrat. When he tried to run as a Republican, he was shove to the side as the racist idiot he is/was. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7552 "2017-06-30T12:33:45Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > See, I’m this close to going the other way. I’ve been a news/political junkie for years and I’m starting to realize that that addiction is doing me absolutely no good. I mean, what is the point of caring when reality is so skewed and the political atmosphere is so absolutely fucked to the point where we put Donald Trump in the White House? Donald Fucking Trump! He’s a reality TeeVee star. Why don’t we fucking put Tila Tequila in there while were at it, ferchrissakes. And I blame the Democrats for my oncoming ambivalence as well. You give and you give and you give some more, you support them, you have their back, you apologize for them and the best they can do is absolutely nothing. They continually get bent over by the Republicans like the little guy at the frat house and I’m getting sick of watching it. Was just thinking the other day about how our fragmented media culture has put us in this mess and has also made it hard to climb out. Every time I open Google News feed it’s always got the usual crap of late night TV hosts roasting Trump or one of his aides, which is fine, but it shouldn’t even remotely be competing with hard news. That’s why it’s been remarkably easy for the Trump to make the “fake news” label stick. A lot of ordinary folk, and not necessarily just conservatives either, look at news as just another form of entertainment that’s on TV. The issues that people talk about might be serious but the delivery can’t be taken seriously; thus, the information itself tends not to be taken seriously. I think Trump is a lot closer than people realize to pulling off a successful heist of Democracy in America. Well, actually, Putin is, too, when I come to think of it. Everything that’s been happening lately is straight out of a Putin playbook. Misdirect. Misinform. Confuse. Sabotage institutions and make people lose faith in them, or at least question whether they function as they were intended. Pretty soon, ordinary people who consider themselves to be libertarian democrats seeking the truth begin to question whether the truth will ever be truly known. Indifference is ultimately the brain death of democracy. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7553 "2017-06-30T12:39:01Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Go away lying troll. Your ahistorical bullshit isn’t welcome here. _And_ he can’t code properly. Half the stuff in the quote box is his incoherent response to my post. > [@Enuma Elish](#): > > Seriously? CNN, MSNBC, NBC, CBS, ABC, The entire Disney corporation, backed by Soros money, Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, Larry Ellison, The Waltons (Wal-Mart), the Rockefeller foundation, Michael Bloomberg, and the California idiot whose name I can’t remember who earned billions from conning Obama into thinking that technology (wind farms, wave farms, solar technology, etc. was actually capable of immediately making true the ‘environmental dreams of the idiot left’. This is so far removed from reality it can’t even be rebutted. It’s just a bunch of right-wing boogymen (plus, oddly, the Waltons, who have always been major Republican donors apart from one small one to Clinton’s campaign) piled into a big pile of paranoid nonsense. > [@](#): > > What protestors? The ones his supporters beat up. > [@](#): > > Obama is behind the paid protestors who use increasing violence to use force to shut down the freedom of speech of citizens who just want their voices to be heard. [He really isn’t](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2016/nov/04/barack-obama-trump-supporter-free-speech-video). This is another complete delusion. You are projecting [based on what Trump does](http://time.com/4722209/judge-president-trump-rally-violence/). > [@](#): > > Deaths and bankruptcy? Nigga please. Yes, deaths and bankruptcy. Of the sort that were far more prevalent in America before ACA and which still continue thanks to the ongoing efforts of the Republicans. > [@](#): > > What do you call the casual heartless deaths of millions of black babies because of abortion? A desperate attempt to distract from the paucity of your argument. > [@](#): > > And Obama/Reid/Pelosi forced the Obamacare bill through without ever having been read… Well, apart from the literally months of hearings and committee meetings with Republicans. But I realize that your misunderstanding of the situation comes from your chosen newsbubble repeating a small fragment of what Nancy Pelosi said (which, luckily for you, consisted entirely of one-syllable words) in order to lead to a view which, again, has fuck-all to do with reality. Mind you, the Republicans are currently trying to “force” the AHCA bill, devised in a hurry behind closed doors while deliberately shutting out the Democrats, through the Senate, despite it having only 17% approval (including only 35% amongst Republicans). That’s probably what you’re thinking of. > [@](#): > > Pull your lefty head out of your ass. More projection. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7554 "2017-06-30T12:39:18Z")
> [@Enuma\_Elish](#): > > David Duke was a Democrat. When he tried to run as a Republican, he was shove to the side as the racist idiot he is/was. “Shoved to the side” being a well-known Louisiana euphemism for “elected to the state legislature.” ---
**Author:** ![Enuma\_Elish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5e9695/32.png) [@Enuma\_Elish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enuma_Elish)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7555 "2017-06-30T12:45:45Z")
Do you Lefties know anything but lies and hate? You claim that people who accept a religion are incapable of thinking otherwise, but you are the ones who cling to your hate, casual racism, disgust for alternate ideas. You think you are the only people who are capable of kindness, empathy, generosity, legitimate love (ie two adults of whatever orientation just wanting to spend their lives together - and don’t think that what they do together in private is a matter for social converse or something that is the government’s business or a matter of politics), or just the basic idea of neighborliness? You aren’t. You are the assholes who, because you are incapable of actually talking to your neighbors, send whiny bullshit complaints to the local government because your neighbor’s (who you don’t know and have never tried to know because -in the end you are all judgemental assholes) lawn is one eighth inch longer than the local code. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7556 "2017-06-30T12:47:35Z")
> [@Enuma\_Elish](#): > > David Duke was a Democrat. When he tried to run as a Republican, he was shove to the side as the racist idiot he is/was. David Duke made it to the runoff for governor as a Republican. He won a race to the Louisiana statehouse as a Republican. And, of course, he heartily endorsed and supports Trump. Why do you keep lying? Or are you just this stupid? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7557 "2017-06-30T12:48:46Z")
> [@Enuma\_Elish](#): > > Do you Lefties know anything but lies and hate? You claim that people who accept a religion are incapable of thinking otherwise, but you are the ones who cling to your hate, casual racism, disgust for alternate ideas. > > You think you are the only people who are capable of kindness, empathy, generosity, legitimate love (ie two adults of whatever orientation just wanting to spend their lives together - and don’t think that what they do together in private is a matter for social converse or something that is the government’s business or a matter of politics), or just the basic idea of neighborliness? You aren’t. You are the assholes who, because you are incapable of actually talking to your neighbors, send whiny bullshit complaints to the local government because your neighbor’s (who you don’t know and have never tried to know because -in the end you are all judgemental assholes) lawn is one eighth inch longer than the local code. I take it you didn’t serve in the military like I did, where I learned that people from all kinds of backgrounds, with all kinds of political beliefs, can be decent people and patriots. It’s probably good that you didn’t serve, considering what a lying asshole you appear to be. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7558 "2017-06-30T12:53:29Z")
> [@Enuma\_Elish](#): > > Do you Lefties know anything but lies and hate? You claim that people who accept a religion are incapable of thinking otherwise, but you are the ones who cling to your hate, casual racism, disgust for alternate ideas. > > You think you are the only people who are capable of kindness, empathy, generosity, legitimate love (ie two adults of whatever orientation just wanting to spend their lives together - and don’t think that what they do together in private is a matter for social converse or something that is the government’s business or a matter of politics), or just the basic idea of neighborliness? You aren’t. You are the assholes who, because you are incapable of actually talking to your neighbors, send whiny bullshit complaints to the local government because your neighbor’s (who you don’t know and have never tried to know because -in the end you are all judgemental assholes) lawn is one eighth inch longer than the local code. Person complaining about how the other side doesn’t “know anything but lies and hate” writes multiple posts filled with nothing but lies and hate. Self-awareness - needs work. But hey, let’s consider the polite and truth-oriented right-wing. Here we find such honest and honorable folk as Rush Limbaugh, Bill O’Reilly, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage, James O’Keefe, Dick Cheney, Steve Bannon and of course President Trump himself (although Trump is less “right-wing” and more a wing unto himself). All of these are well-known for their impeccable record of scrupulous honesty and deportment. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7559 "2017-06-30T12:56:17Z")
Hey, Melania, how’s your campaign against cyber-bullying coming along? You don’t even have to leave your house to get started. ---
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7560 "2017-06-30T13:12:04Z")
> [@Enuma\_Elish](#): > > David Duke was a Democrat. When he tried to run as a Republican, he was shove to the side as the racist idiot he is/was. All the same, Duke _was_ a Republican. Whereas MLK _never_ was one. Sorry to have distracted you from the topic at hand. My apologies. But this does underline the previous poster’s assertion that some of your posts are, at best, ahistorical. Just an fyi for you to think on if you care to. :shrug: ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7561 "2017-06-30T13:20:56Z")
How many pages are we going to waste feeding this one? ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7562 "2017-06-30T13:22:52Z")
had to block the emma fish troll, now could y’all please reconsider if it needs quoting? thanks! > [@](#): > > Why do you keep lying? Or are you just this stupid? it can be both lying and stupid, obviously ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7563 "2017-06-30T13:28:18Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > How many pages are we going to waste feeding this one? Until it explodes, like Mr. Creosote. We’re already at the “bucket” stage, judging by the spew. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=377) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=379)