# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 380
**Author:** ![Crybaby\_Boobie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crybaby_boobie/32/545_2.png) [@Crybaby\_Boobie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crybaby_Boobie)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7584 "2017-06-30T20:47:18Z")
> **[What Really Happened Between Trump, Morning Joe, and the National Enquirer](https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/06/what-happened-between-trump-morning-joe-and-the-enquirer.html)** > > The high-stakes tabloid showdown brokered by Jared Kushner. Apparently it was the Kush-ball himself who was making the threats: > [@](#): > > In mid-April, Scarborough texted with Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner about the pending Enquirer story. Kushner told Scarborough that he would need to personally apologize to Trump in exchange for getting Enquirer owner David Pecker to stop the story. (A spokesperson for Kushner declined to comment). Scarborough says he refused, and the Enquirer published the story in print on June 5, headlined “Morning Joe Sleazy Cheating Scandal!” ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7585 "2017-06-30T21:35:24Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Like all the other abuses of power he has done? > > It’s not illegal if the president does it. And when you’re famous, they let you do it. Grabbing power seems to work the same way. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7586 "2017-07-01T01:03:49Z")
> [@Enuma\_Elish](#): > > If you are so instilled in your left-wing ideology, there is nothing I can show you now. I’m too drunk. If you are serious, I will try to give cites later. Fucking H. anyone with any sense and any basic curiosity knows PolitiFact is bullshit. I looked up your past remarks about Obama and you claimed the ACA was “selling us into slavery”, which is idiotic hyperbole. You’re a right wing retard who will claim that anything that shows you are wrong is biased and therefore must be a lie. Sad little angry troll needs to get drunk so he can cut loose with his anger. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7587 "2017-07-01T01:09:23Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > And when you’re famous, they let you do it. Grabbing power seems to work the same way. Well, it does start with “p”. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7588 "2017-07-01T01:11:10Z")
Oh Goodie. If President Donald Trump or members of his administration told MSNBC’s Mika Brzezinski and Joe Scarborough that a National Enquirer hit piece would be published unless they provided the president with better coverage, that would be a crime, a violation of the [anti-extortion statute](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/872). ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7589 "2017-07-01T01:16:13Z")
Since it was apparently Kushner, it would be interesting if he is arrested on those charges. I would then expect Trump to very rapidly issue a pardon and likely (stupidly) announce that he will pardon anyone in his administration who is arrested in a “witch hunt”. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7590 "2017-07-01T01:31:46Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > I looked up your past remarks about Obama and you claimed the ACA was “selling us into slavery”, which is idiotic hyperbole. That’s giving it way too much credit for connection to reality. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7591 "2017-07-01T01:40:27Z")
“Anyone who (is anyone/has a brain/has a lick of sense) knows (debunked right wing article of faith)”. “(source) is known to have a Liberal bias”. Reality has a liberal bias. They’re called FACTS. Republitards\* hate Politifacts and other measures of accuracy because it shows them for the liars, frauds and ignorant shits that they really are. They won’t argue the facts, they’ll just attack the source. :rolleyes: - Not all Republicans, just the less reality based ones. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7592 "2017-07-01T03:09:59Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Since it was apparently Kushner, it would be interesting if he is arrested on those charges. > > I would then expect Trump to very rapidly issue a pardon and likely (stupidly) announce that he will pardon anyone in his administration who is arrested in a “witch hunt”. I don’t think you can pardon someone until after they’ve been convicted. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7593 "2017-07-01T03:12:11Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > Oh Goodie. If President Donald Trump or members of his administration told MSNBC’s Mika Brzezinski and Joe Scarborough that a National Enquirer hit piece would be published unless they provided the president with better coverage, that would be a crime, a violation of the [anti-extortion statute](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/872). There’s a statute for this? Man, when did we get so politically correct? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7594 "2017-07-01T03:28:59Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > I don’t think you can pardon someone until after they’ve been convicted. Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7595 "2017-07-01T04:20:56Z")
> [@Crybaby\_Boobie](#): > > [What Happened Between Trump, Morning Joe, and the Enquirer](http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/06/what-happened-between-trump-morning-joe-and-the-enquirer.html) > > Apparently it was the Kush-ball himself who was making the threats: Apparently the Kush conducted these exchanges with Joe via text message. That guy is dumber than a box of rocks. Now, the above NY magazine link contains a link to the online Enquirer story (or non-story, really). The page has a million annoying ad feature and pop-ups but I wanted to see the story. It’s short and in a slideshow format with sidebars. Large parts of it sound like it could have been written by Trump himself. I’m not surprised that Mr Art of the Deal has extortion in his bag of deal-making tricks. However, sometimes I wonder — I just got this idea for a sitcom, somewhat of a modernized French farce. There is a shallow stupid old man that is very very rich and believes he’s entitled to everything that he wants. So he surrounds himself with a mighty army of sycophants whose mission in life is to see that he gets whatever he wants. The running storyline is that the stupid rich man wants to be president, so his army has to grease the wheels to make that happen and they have pull lots of stupid sitcom stunts involving colluding with foreign agents, meanwhile Mr Stupid is increasingly convinced that he’s winning on his own merits and amusingly ignorant of the madcap antics of those that surround him. And there will also be a B story line that involves a self-serving staffer manipulating him for his own purposes. Like there could be an episode based on the Devin Nunes midnight ride saga. Now I could easily see an episode where the stupid man is mad at a newsperson and his family goes to insane sitcom lengths to make the newsperson call with an apology - like planting a negative story and offering to kill it in exchange for an apology. But in this version the newsperson doesn’t call and the story is published and no one notices which makes the stupid man very angry. Then he says stupid stuff that gets everyone in trouble for their madcap antics and they all go to jail. I guess, I’m saying sometimes I wonder if Trump really is unaware of the work his staff puts in to maintain his bubble. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7596 "2017-07-01T16:41:20Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > Oh Goodie. If President Donald Trump or members of his administration told MSNBC’s Mika Brzezinski and Joe Scarborough that a National Enquirer hit piece would be published unless they provided the president with better coverage, that would be a crime, a violation of the [anti-extortion statute](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/872). > [@Chimera](#): > > Since it was apparently Kushner, it would be interesting if he is arrested on those charges. > > I would then expect Trump to very rapidly issue a pardon and likely (stupidly) announce that he will pardon anyone in his administration who is arrested in a “witch hunt”. Has this been pointed out in the media? Seriously, I’ve not heard any of this before. I would love to see Kushner brought up on charges. If he can be arrested, I hope some law-enforcement official somewhere is preparing it as we type. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7597 "2017-07-01T17:27:39Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Has this been pointed out in the media? Seriously, I’ve not heard any of this before. I would love to see Kushner brought up on charges. If he can be arrested, I hope some law-enforcement official somewhere is preparing it as we type. I wouldn’t be surprised if this were added to one or more of the various ongoing investigations. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7598 "2017-07-01T17:32:00Z")
It’s being reported now that the Chump administration is demanding detailed voter-registration information from all 50 states including party affiliation, criminal and military records and partial Social Security numbers. The states are so far refusing. Fucking shitbag. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7599 "2017-07-01T17:39:40Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > The states are so far refusing. SOME. Some of the states. I think a tiny bit over half, 26, are basically telling Trump and Kobach to pound sand. ---
**Author:** ![Haricotbear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/46a35a/32.png) [@Haricotbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Haricotbear)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7600 "2017-07-01T17:47:50Z")
WH: can’t or won’t IN: (shrugs). Pick one. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7601 "2017-07-01T17:50:04Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > SOME. Some of the states. I think a tiny bit over half, 26, are basically telling Trump and Kobach to pound sand. I’m sure my solidly blue state of Hawaii is one of them telling Traitor Trump to pound sand. ---
**Author:** ![Haricotbear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/46a35a/32.png) [@Haricotbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Haricotbear)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7602 "2017-07-01T17:55:53Z")
I hope this is the place to post this. If not, in sure I will find out. Quite the snack, this: > **[The Time I Got Recruited to Collude with the Russians](https://www.lawfareblog.com/time-i-got-recruited-collude-russians)** > > I read the Wall Street Journal’s article yesterday on attempts by a GOP operative to recover missing Hillary Clinton emails with more than usual interest. I was involved in the events that reporter Shane Harris described, and I was an unnamed source... ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7603 "2017-07-01T17:56:59Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > SOME. Some of the states. I think a tiny bit over half, 26, are basically telling Trump and Kobach to pound sand. Even the Secretary of State of \*\*\*Mississippi \*\*\*told them that they could jump in the Gulf of Mexico, and Mississippi is a good place to jump from. And it’s hilarious that Kris Kobach, as Secretary of State of Kansas, is telling Kris Kobach, as head of Trump’s elections witch hunt committee, no. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=379) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=381)