# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 386
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7704 "2017-07-05T07:19:52Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …I just watched this Obama video from 2016. > > "The American people are pretty sensible. And I think they will make a sensible choice in the end." > > Its disturbing to watch Obama methodically dissect the Republican candidates, making the point that while Trump was the loudest, the rest _were just as bad_. He explained the consequences of electing a person like Trump. He talked about the burdens of the office of the presidency. And he expressed faith that the people of the United States would make the right decisions at the polling booth. > > Its so goddamn depressing to watch. Well, the people did make the right choice, if you just count popular vote. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7705 "2017-07-05T13:13:40Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > [Silver Alert\* in the making](http://ijr.com/the-response/2017/07/912245-watch-confused-trump-wanders-away-limousine-gets-directed-back/). > > Note: The video in the article did not play for me in Safari, but did in Firefox. > \ ***Silver Alert** : A public notification system in the U.S. to broadcast information about senior citizens with Alzheimer’s disease, dementia or other mental disabilities, in order to aid in locating them. [Paraphrased from Wikipedia] that’s all we are going to talk about this? the guy in the oval office is demented and we are just going to move on? ☹ ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7706 "2017-07-05T13:25:07Z")
> [@JackieLikesVariety](#): > > that’s all we are going to talk about this? the guy in the oval office is demented and we are just going to move on? > > ☹ Seriously. I’ve lost my car in the parking lot before. But not if it’s the only car and is literally right under my nose ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7707 "2017-07-05T13:31:33Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > Too bad; after a few of her earlier statements that seemed like she was actually working for the American people rather than kissing Trump’s ass, I had hopes for her. But it seems she’s that guy in the office who does as little as possible, but cc’s everybody whenever he does that little bit, to make sure everybody knows how hard he’s working. I can kind of see where she was coming from; she was trying to strike a tone of wry bemusement, an attitude of a petulant child for humorous effect. “Thanks, Kim Jong-Dickface…now that you’ve brought the world to the brink of nuclear war, I have to miss my sister’s BBQ!!! FML!!” Three problems with this: (1) I find it refreshing to see that anybody in the Trump Administration is working overtime. I thought all they did was watch TV and play golf. (2) This is the first time anybody (outside of South Carolina) has heard from Nikki Haley. You can’t strike an attitude if nobody knows what the real you is like. (3) It’s not a good idea to _act_ like a petulant child, when your boss really _is_ a petulant child. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7708 "2017-07-05T13:35:28Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Seriously. I’ve lost my car in the parking lot before. But not if it’s the only car and is literally right under my nose And it has a big sign on the side telling you THIS IS YOUR CAR! ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7709 "2017-07-05T14:08:57Z")
OK, the North Koreans have what appears to be a working ICBM. Does anyone think that the reasoned approach to such a thing happening is to tweet about it and say that you hope someone else fixes it? Jesus, now is the time for confidential talking with our allies and adversaries alike, not for whining on Twitter. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7710 "2017-07-05T14:23:54Z")
“Allies”? ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7711 "2017-07-05T14:27:17Z")
Here’s an interesting [article from Vox](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/4/11/15192866/north-korea-japan-kim-jong-un-donald-trump-japan-china-south-korea) about possible scenarios for disaster in Korea. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7712 "2017-07-05T15:25:48Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > OK, the North Koreans have what appears to be a working ICBM. Does anyone think that the reasoned approach to such a thing happening is to tweet about it and say that you hope someone else fixes it? Jesus, now is the time for confidential talking with our allies and adversaries alike, not for whining on Twitter. Say Trump does agree to talks with the heads of China, Russia, S Korea, Japan, etc. They get memos from Trump’s team, similar to the ones issued on his trips to the Middle East and Europe, that advise that Trump won’t pay attention if the talks have too much detail, and it’s best to mention his name every once in a while. They’ll realize that Trump is useless and the US isn’t going to provide a unifying role. They’ll go back to their old squabbles and feel no incentive to unify. Boom goes the dynamite. Same result as a twitter whine, only more costly to the taxpayers. During Trump’s administration, we have to plan for least costly damage and ride out the rest of his term(s). ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7713 "2017-07-05T15:30:50Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > Say Trump does agree to talks with the heads of China, Russia, S Korea, Japan, etc. They get memos from Trump’s team, similar to the ones issued on his trips to the Middle East and Europe, that advise that Trump won’t pay attention if the talks have too much detail, and it’s best to mention his name every once in a while. They’ll realize that Trump is useless and the US isn’t going to provide a unifying role. They’ll go back to their old squabbles and feel no incentive to unify. Boom goes the dynamite. > > Same result as a twitter whine, only more costly to the taxpayers. > > During Trump’s administration, we have to plan for least costly damage and ride out the rest of his term(s). You have a point, but this could be handled at lower levels. The US could send Tillerson or Jared Kushner- oh crap I guess we’re fucked. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7714 "2017-07-05T15:53:34Z")
Nothing like having a pig-ignorant, incurious, intellectually-stunted, thin-skinned, possibly-demential, inexperienced, morally-bankrupt, greed-driven, blabber-mouthing failed businessman at the helm during a threat of nuclear war. But her emails…! ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7715 "2017-07-05T15:55:19Z")
Tillerson is at least \*trying \*to act in the best interests of the country. Unfortunately, they keep going around him. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7716 "2017-07-05T15:59:22Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Nothing like having a pig-ignorant, incurious, intellectually-stunted, thin-skinned, possibly-demential, inexperienced, morally-bankrupt, greed-driven, blabber-mouthing failed businessman at the helm during a threat of nuclear war. Or, as a certain plastic vegetable said: [Nothing livens up a boring cross-country bus ride like a stuck accelerator, failed brakes and an engine fire.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20323131#post20323131) ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7717 "2017-07-05T16:04:16Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Or, as a certain plastic vegetable said: [Nothing livens up a boring cross-country bus ride like a stuck accelerator, failed brakes and an engine fire.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20323131#post20323131) That’s the stuff! ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7718 "2017-07-05T16:04:29Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > You never know what misinformed Trump supporters take seriously. See the few posts above Faux news cite. Let’s see… They got their “war on Christmas” news and early “killer liberals” news from Bill O’Really. They get their more current “killer liberals” and “Obamunist FEMA camps” and “deadly gubmint induced chemtrails” and “NASA has slave colonies on Mars” news from Alex Jones. They have, or had “Everyone is doomed buy gold” Beck. They have “Liberals are picking on me” Hannity. Looks to me like the only news they won’t believe is the real news (and that’s pretty damn shitty too). ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7719 "2017-07-05T16:08:23Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Ask **Starving Artist**. He’s on the record proclaiming Trump’s yuge business acumen on this very board, against all relentless (and repeated, ad nauseam) evidence. Some people know what they know, and ya can’t make 'em know otherwise. It’s assholes like SA (just one of several) who are WHY I refuse to bust my ass on cites and evidence most of the time, anymore. It’s a waste of time. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7720 "2017-07-05T16:16:53Z")
> [@Enuma\_Elish](#): > > Did the people who eventually voted for Trump or their supposed billionaire financial supporters (cough Koch cough) ever pay people to protest Obama? Did they ever protest in such a way that Obama supporters were hounded from public universities (supposed places of ‘free speech’)? Were there any actual violent protests against Obama? Did Republican supporters ever hound Democrat town meetings with loud mouthed vile and hate and treat it as a justified casual political response? No they didn’t. I am not the liar here. I am not the hater. Look in the mirror, Lefties, the hate you see is your own. I, at least, come by it honestly. So feel free to fuck off. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7721 "2017-07-05T16:20:15Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > HA HA! [44 States](https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetwburns/2017/07/04/now-44-states-have-refused-trump-commissions-demand-for-voter-info/#5484cbe4458a) have now refused Trump Commission’s demand for personal info on voters. > > Once again, Trump and his lackeys piss all over themselves. 😃 Good. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7722 "2017-07-05T17:39:09Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Three problems with this: (1) I find it refreshing to see that anybody in the Trump Administration is working overtime. I thought all they did was watch TV and play golf. (2) This is the first time anybody (outside of South Carolina) has heard from Nikki Haley. You can’t strike an attitude if nobody knows what the real you is like. (3) It’s not a good idea to _act_ like a petulant child, when your boss really _is_ a petulant child. One of the methods for achieving comedy is contrast. The tweet would have been funny coming from John Kerry, who has a well deserved reputation of looking and acting about as spontaneous and humorous as a funeral director, and whose boss was a person of gravitas and maturity. The striking contrast between a petulant tweet and the reputations of the people behind it would have created humor. That’s why The Onion’s recurring character of John Kerry was a globetrotting James Bond type superspy; it’s funny because it’s precisely what John Kerry wasn’t. A petulant tweet from a petulant administration has precisely the opposite effect; your first reaction is “She actually meant that,” and that isn’t funny, it’s annoying. Even if after the fact you realize Haley is not Trump and was looking for comic effect, it’s too late. It’s not funny after the fact. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7723 "2017-07-05T18:00:31Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Or, as a certain plastic vegetable said: [Nothing livens up a boring cross-country bus ride like a stuck accelerator, failed brakes and an engine fire.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20323131#post20323131) I was amused to see that posted as a response to a typical Okrahoma knob slobbering of President Drunk Uncle Fred. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=385) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=387)