# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7924 "2017-07-11T12:49:20Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> It’s like watching Foghorn Leghorn and Chicken Hawk work together.

I got the little one’s name wrong. It’s [Henery Hawk](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henery_Hawk). But, at least I didn’t call Abe the president of Japan or Xi the president of the Republic of China.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7925 "2017-07-11T17:19:17Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> Also, Trump is cancelling a new FBI building. Out of spite?

Probably. He has always been a petty little bitch.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7926 "2017-07-11T17:39:05Z")

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It wasn’t going to have his name on it.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7927 "2017-07-11T20:23:36Z")

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The really amazing thing to me is that, despite everything, Trump hit 40% approval again today. Apparently 40% of this country is batshit insane–who knew it was that many?

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7928 "2017-07-11T20:45:16Z")

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TBH, **Evil Economist** , I’ve had my suspicions about that for a while just from reading the comments sections…

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7929 "2017-07-11T22:02:00Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> The really amazing thing to me is that, despite everything, Trump hit 40% approval again today. Apparently 40% of this country is batshit insane–who knew it was that many?

I use 538, which adjusts several polls for bias before doing some sort of averaging. They have him at +39.2%/-55% right now.

Really, though, the BSFI index is probably about 4/10[sup]ths[/sup] of that percentage. A lot more of the positives are like “_Yeah, I guess. Whatevar, I got a lot of stuff to_ —— squirrel!”

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7930 "2017-07-11T23:15:36Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> The really amazing thing to me is that, despite everything, Trump hit 40% approval again today. Apparently 40% of this country is batshit insane–who knew it was that many?

I think Trump was right. He can do ANYthing, even shoot someone, and get away with it.

Even collusion with an enemy state and committing treason to usurp an election are “do-able” for him. And his nation of fan-boys are just fine with it.

I think it’s fucking disgusting.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7931 "2017-07-11T23:29:04Z")

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I’m just starting to watch the first season of “Man in the High Tower”, based on the novel by Phillip K. Dick. It’s a dystopian novel that posits that Germany took over Britain, and then got the atomic bomb first, Nuked Washington DC and won the war.

I am having no problem whatsoever believing that a significant group of Americans would have loved to don a brown uniform, beat protesters and have a strong leader to salute.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7932 "2017-07-11T23:48:05Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> I’m just starting to watch the first season of “Man in the High Tower”, based on the novel by Phillip K. Dick. It’s a dystopian novel that posits that Germany took over Britain, and then got the atomic bomb first, Nuked Washington DC and won the war.
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> I am having no problem whatsoever believing that a significant group of Americans would have loved to don a brown uniform, beat protesters and have a strong leader to salute.

I know and love the show, but this feels more like a proletariat/bourgeoisie scenario.

Make Ameri☭a Great Again, indeed.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7933 "2017-07-12T01:07:39Z")

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> [@cmyk](#):
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> I know and love the show, but this feels more like a proletariat/bourgeoisie scenario.
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> Make Ameri☭a Great Again, indeed.

Just a different uniform. Same beatings, same strong leader to salute.

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7934 "2017-07-12T03:56:15Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> I’m just starting to watch the first season of “Man in the High Tower”, based on the novel by Phillip K. Dick.

small correction–it’s “The Man in the High **Castle** ”

great show!

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7935 "2017-07-12T04:12:11Z")

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> [@Tangent](#):
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> small correction–it’s “The Man in the High **Castle** ”
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> great show!

D’oh! Thanks for that. Don’t know what I was thinking. I was actually on the set last week too.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7936 "2017-07-12T04:14:17Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> D’oh! Thanks for that. Don’t know what I was thinking. I was actually on the set last week too.

High Tower / Trump Tower… easy mistake.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7937 "2017-07-12T05:34:17Z")

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Sean Hannity gets on his knees (yet again) [when interviewing](http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/07/12/donald-trump-jr-tells-sean-hannity-in-retrospect-probably-would-have-done-things-little-differently.html) Shit For Brains Junior.

Joey (“light my fire”) [Goebbels](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Goebbels) must be proud.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7938 "2017-07-12T11:15:04Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> Also, Trump is cancelling a new FBI building. Out of spite? You judge.
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> [https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/2017/07/10/e25c1080-65af-11e7-9928-22d00a47778f\_story.html?utm\_term=.466cd9a85c0c](https://t.co/2cnwJgHXKL)

Wow, what a clusterfuck. From the article:

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> Trump has had an unusual relationship with both the GSA and the FBI. The GSA is the landlord to his D.C. hotel. Trump has also been embroiled in a high-profile dispute with the FBI over its ongoing Russia investigation, having fired director James B. Comey — who lobbied hard for a new campus — in May.

Cheeto wants spend billions on a pointless monument to himself on our southern border, but is too feckless to properly house the F.B.I… And it’s going to cost a fortune _not to build a new HQ_:

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> The GSA, meanwhile, is housing many of the bureau’s 9,500 headquarters employees using expensive short-term leases at about a dozen locations throughout the Washington region because the staff long ago outgrew the Hoover Building.

The bidding process has been going on for years, but Chump has ethical problems there, just like with everything else:

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> “Reports that the federal government is pulling the plug on a new FBI headquarters reveals insurmountable Trump conflicts with GSA, FBI, and Vornado,” Rep. Gerald E. Connolly (D-Va.) said Monday night, referring to Vornado Realty Trust. “This is devastating news. Conflicts have consequences.”

Two the four bidders on the project have significant business ties to Trump and son-in-law Kushner, Vornado and Larry Silverstein.

All of these types of conflicts were easily anticipated, but the idiot American public decided it would be a great idea to elect an unvetted and financially compromised monkey to be prez. Well done us.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7939 "2017-07-12T12:06:35Z")

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…the American taxpayer dollars at work. (Apologies if already posted.)

[http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-epa-pruitt-idUSKBN19W2D0](http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-epa-pruitt-idUSKBN19W2D0)

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> WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency is in the early stages of launching a debate about climate change that could air on television – challenging scientists to prove the widespread view that global warming is a serious threat, the head of the agency said.
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> …
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> “There are lots of questions that have not been asked and answered (about climate change),” EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt told Reuters in an interview late on Monday.
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> “Who better to do that than a group of scientists… getting together and having a robust discussion for all the world to see,” he added without explaining how the scientists would be chosen.
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> Asked if he thought the debate should be televised, Pruitt said: “I think so. I think so. I mean, I don’t know yet, but you want this to be open to the world. You want this to be on full display. I think the American people would be very interested in consuming that. I think they deserve it.”

A televised debate! What better way to settle the science!

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**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7940 "2017-07-12T12:16:04Z")

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If only there was a public place that scientists could publish their data. Maybe a journal, one that their peers could access to review their findings.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7941 "2017-07-12T12:42:59Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> …the American taxpayer dollars at work. (Apologies if already posted.)
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> [http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-epa-pruitt-idUSKBN19W2D0](http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-epa-pruitt-idUSKBN19W2D0)
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> A televised debate! What better way to settle the science!

Gotta make sure [del]God[/del] the Bible is represented. :rolleyes:

> [@steronz](#):
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> If only there was a public place that scientists could publish their data. Maybe a journal, one that their peers could access to review their findings.

Now you’re just being silly. 😛

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7942 "2017-07-12T12:48:37Z")

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> [@steronz](#):
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> If only there was a public place that scientists could publish their data. Maybe a journal, one that their peers could access to review their findings.

But… wouldn’t that be targetted to people who read? That’s elitist bullshit!

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7943 "2017-07-12T12:58:19Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> A televised debate! What better way to settle the science!

If Bill Nye is willing to do it, it might actually be helpful.

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