# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7944 "2017-07-12T13:57:37Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> If Bill Nye is willing to do it, it might actually be helpful.

If bill nye and 96 other scientists were able to be one side of the stage, while the other side is made of 3 denialists, then the public can get a good feel for what the scientific consensus is.

The reason that Bill Nye and others stopped doing these sorts of controversial debates is because they are never set up that way. You have one climate scientist on one side, and a denialist on the other, giving the impression that both are similarly supported viewpoints.

It does nothing at all to further the cause of education, and just gives the denialists a platform from which to preach their lies.

Anyone who thinks that the evolution debate can be shut down by the “If we evolved from monkeys, then why are there still monkeys?” will side with the denialists simpler explanation, than the real one which is more complicated.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7945 "2017-07-12T14:01:30Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> All of these types of conflicts were easily anticipated, but the idiot American public decided it would be a great idea to elect an unvetted and financially compromised **monkey** to be prez. Well done us.

emphasis added

We really need to find better creatures to describe Cheetoh. Monkeys and chimpanzees are much higher on the evolutionary scale. I propose we use toe fungus or plague virus or maybe bot fly. Though the way Cheetoh is going, soon those descriptors will seem too good.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7946 "2017-07-12T14:04:23Z")

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If you can find a way to gently get a denialist, or a creationist (same mentality, mostly the same individuals too) to reconsider his assumptions, or even get him to recognize that they’re assumptions and dogma but not fact-based, you’ve won a major, major battle. Nye does have that talent, while most of us are simply too impatient and can look haughty and dismissive to Believers instead. That lets them dismiss _us_.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7947 "2017-07-12T14:11:50Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> emphasis added
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> We really need to find better creatures to describe Cheetoh. Monkeys and chimpanzees are much higher on the evolutionary scale. I propose we use toe fungus or plague virus or maybe bot fly. Though the way Cheetoh is going, soon those descriptors will seem too good.

Slug?

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7948 "2017-07-12T15:03:50Z")

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What’s wrong with shit gibbon?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7949 "2017-07-12T15:05:44Z")

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> [@cmyk](#):
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> What’s wrong with shit gibbon?

Because the shit gibbons object.

I prefer Cheeto-In-Chief or Howling Yam because food can’t voice an objection. Yet.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7950 "2017-07-12T15:16:43Z")

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Great Orange Menace

Unless you’re some orange guido, this shouldn’t offend any particular group or food.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7951 "2017-07-12T16:00:41Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> If you can find a way to gently get a denialist, or a creationist (same mentality, mostly the same individuals too) to reconsider his assumptions, or even get him to recognize that they’re assumptions and dogma but not fact-based, you’ve won a major, major battle. Nye does have that talent, while most of us are simply too impatient and can look haughty and dismissive to Believers instead. That lets them dismiss _us_.

I don’t follow Nye very closely (I really dislike his new show), so do you have an example of a time when he actually got someone he was debating to do any of this?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7952 "2017-07-12T16:05:38Z")

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You mean somebody who would actually admit they realized that one of the basic tenets of their religion was wrong? Not directly, no; I’m just giving him credit for planting some seeds.

[The reaction to his creationism debate with Ken Ham.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Nye%E2%80%93Ken_Ham_debate#Reaction)

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7953 "2017-07-12T16:05:53Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Great Orange Menace
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> Unless you’re some orange guido, this shouldn’t offend any particular group or food.

I object to using the term “Great”. I propose substituting “Abominable”

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7954 "2017-07-12T16:39:52Z")

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World leaders if they had man buns.

[https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170712/3d11b6b6a1846bc7442c63f60ca04a6d.jpg](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170712/3d11b6b6a1846bc7442c63f60ca04a6d.jpg)

> **[Here's what 8 major politicians would like if they had man buns](https://shareably.net/politician-man-buns/)**
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> These are too funny for words! It all started when one man tweeted a photo of Donald Trump with a man bun.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7955 "2017-07-12T16:47:36Z")

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The pick to head the [FDIC](http://www.marketwatch.com/story/trumps-pick-to-head-fdic-withdraws-from-consideration-2017-07-12) asked to withdraw his name from consideration due to family issues. No word on whether the family with which he has issues is his own or Trump’s.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7956 "2017-07-12T17:19:23Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> You mean somebody who would actually admit they realized that one of the basic tenets of their religion was wrong? Not directly, no; I’m just giving him credit for planting some seeds.
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> [The reaction to his creationism debate with Ken Ham.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Nye%E2%80%93Ken_Ham_debate#Reaction)

at the end of the wiki article.

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> February 27, 2014, Ham announced that the publicity the debate generated for AiG had spurred fundraising for its stalled Ark Encounter project

Not the seeds I was looking for.

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**Author:** ![Max\_Torque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7957 "2017-07-12T19:19:58Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> We really need to find better creatures to describe Cheetoh. Monkeys and chimpanzees are much higher on the evolutionary scale. I propose we use toe fungus or plague virus or maybe bot fly. Though the way Cheetoh is going, soon those descriptors will seem too good.

On Fark, they seem to have settled into calling him “Donnie Two Scoops” for the most part. Since Donald Jr. has been in the news a lot in the last few days, he’s “Donnie Half Scoop”.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7958 "2017-07-12T19:25:58Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> emphasis added
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> We really need to find better creatures to describe Cheetoh. Monkeys and chimpanzees are much higher on the evolutionary scale. I propose we use toe fungus or plague virus or maybe bot fly. Though the way Cheetoh is going, soon those descriptors will seem too good.

Baby carrot penis.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7959 "2017-07-12T19:42:30Z")

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can we get a mod to remove the “in the making…” part of the title? the cclusterfuck is well made.

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**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7960 "2017-07-12T19:57:41Z")

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> [@](#):
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> On Fark, they seem to have settled into calling him “Donnie Two Scoops” for the most part. Since Donald Jr. has been in the news a lot in the last few days, he’s “Donnie Half Scoop”.

😛

so beautiful how it sums Donnie as childish and greedy !

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7961 "2017-07-12T20:05:14Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Cheeto wants spend billions on a pointless monument to himself on our southern border, but is too feckless to properly house the F.B.I.

You guys act like Trump hasn’t done anything good. But if you check Breitbart news, you will find that in less than six months as President, he has already designed, built, tested, and is ready to commission a [brand new aircraft carrier.](http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/07/11/trump-closer-12-carrier-navy-goal-uss-gerald-ford/)

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7962 "2017-07-12T20:20:45Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> We really need to find better creatures to describe Cheetoh. Monkeys and chimpanzees are much higher on the evolutionary scale. I propose we use toe fungus or plague virus or maybe bot fly. …

How about “rat lungworm”?

> [@](#):
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> Rat lungworm, or Angiostrongylus cantonensis, can be transmitted between mollusks – like snails and slugs – and rats, and it can make humans sick. …The study says infected adults can have fever, headache, a stiff neck, vomiting, and nausea…

> **[Infections: Why Do I Keep Getting Them?](https://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/keep-getting-infections)**
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> If you keep getting sick all the time, or notice that you’re getting one infection after another, there could be an underlying cause.

Question: has any American president ever before gone over to France to celebrate Bastille Day?

I’m wondering because it seems, I don’t know, odd.

Sure would be a convenient time for a major “terrorist” attack to level DC, though. Take out Mueller and the entire Congress. The Dear Rat Lungworm would be forced to declare martial law, suspend the 1st Amendment, etc.—for the good of America.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7963 "2017-07-12T20:23:28Z")

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But did you see the way he picked up that Marine’s hat? Wasn’t that awesome? _(swoooooonnnnn)_

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