# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7964 "2017-07-12T20:25:36Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> You guys act like Trump hasn’t done anything good. But if you check Breitbart news, you will find that in less than six months as President, he has already designed, built, tested, and is ready to commission a [brand new aircraft carrier.](http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/07/11/trump-closer-12-carrier-navy-goal-uss-gerald-ford/)

In related news, the _USS Gerald Ford_, while leaving the dock on it’s shakedown cruise, tripped over it’s own anchor chain and ran aground.

😉

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7965 "2017-07-12T20:37:07Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> You guys act like Trump hasn’t done anything good. But if you check Breitbart news, you will find that in less than six months as President, he has already designed, built, tested, and is ready to commission a [brand new aircraft carrier.](http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/07/11/trump-closer-12-carrier-navy-goal-uss-gerald-ford/)

Great quote from the comments section:

> [@](#):
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> Breitbart credited Trump with the launch of a new aircraft carrier that began construction in 2005 during the George W. Bush administration…it was supported thru the Obama administration…will probably be sold at auction during the Trump administration…

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7966 "2017-07-12T20:39:50Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> But did you see the way he picked up that Marine’s hat? Wasn’t that awesome? _(swoooooonnnnn)_

I finally looked at that.

It doesn’t come anywhere near cancelling out the memory of him mocking that disabled reporter. Or even the memory of him shoving aside the Prime Minister of Montenegro at the NATO meeting, then preening himself proudly.

What an ass.  
[![](http://a.abcnews.com/images/GMA/151127_gma_llamas_0707_16x9_992.jpg) ](http://a.abcnews.com/images/GMA/151127_gma_llamas_0707_16x9_992.jpg)

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Iimj0j4NYME/hqdefault.jpg "Raw: Trump Pushes Past Montenegro PM at NATO") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iimj0j4NYME)

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**Author:** ![ticker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@ticker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ticker)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7967 "2017-07-12T22:06:18Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> You guys act like Trump hasn’t done anything good. But if you check Breitbart news, you will find that in less than six months as President, he has already designed, built, tested, and is ready to commission a [brand new aircraft carrier.](http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/07/11/trump-closer-12-carrier-navy-goal-uss-gerald-ford/)

I see from that Breitbart article

> [@](#):
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> One of the most significant changes is that the aircraft catapults are electromagnetic powered, versus steam-powered. The system is referred to as the “EMALS,” or electromagnetic launch system.
> 
> The system is designed to be more space and energy efficient, be less costly over its life cycle, and require less manpower to operate. It is designed to be capable of launching all future aircraft in the Navy’s inventory through 2050.

yet I am sure I remember [Trump saying](http://time.com/4775040/donald-trump-time-interview-being-president/)

> [@](#):
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> You know the catapult is quite important. So I said what is this? Sir, this is our digital catapult system. He said well, we’re going to this because we wanted to keep up with modern [technology]. I said you don’t use steam anymore for catapult? No sir. I said, “Ah, how is it working?” “Sir, not good. Not good. Doesn’t have the power. You know the steam is just brutal. You see that sucker going and steam’s going all over the place, there’s planes thrown in the air.”
> 
> It sounded bad to me. Digital. They have digital. What is digital? And it’s very complicated, you have to be Albert Einstein to figure it out. And I said–and now they want to buy more aircraft carriers. I said what system are you going to be–“Sir, we’re staying with digital.” I said no you’re not. You going to goddamned steam, the digital costs hundreds of millions of dollars more money and it’s no good.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7968 "2017-07-12T22:46:14Z")

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[EXCLUSIVE-Trump throws is son under the bus](http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/exclusive-trump-says-he-was-unaware-of-sons-meeting-with-russian-lawyer/ar-BBEja0F?li=BBnb7Kz)

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> WASHINGTON - U.S. President Donald Trump said on Wednesday he was unaware of his son Donald Trump Jr.'s meeting last year with a Russian lawyer at the heart of a White House controversy, telling Reuters he only learned of it a couple of days ago.

So Trump Jr, Son in Law and Campaign chief all kept it from him??

[Worse, he dragged brother-in-law Jared Kushner and then-campaign chief Paul Manafort into the meeting, which proved to be a bid by a Moscow fixer to undo a US law causing trouble for her clients. (Reportedly, Kushner walked out within 10 minutes while Manafort did work on his phone.)](http://nypost.com/2017/07/11/donald-trump-jr-is-an-idiot/)

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7969 "2017-07-12T23:15:39Z")

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[quote=“Sherrerd, post:7966, topic:774070”]

I finally looked at that.

It doesn’t come anywhere near cancelling out the memory of him mocking that disabled reporter. Or even the memory of him shoving aside the Prime Minister of Montenegro at the NATO meeting, then preening himself proudly.

What an ass.  
[http://a.abcnews.com/images/GMA/151127\_gma\_llamas\_0707\_16x9\_992.jpg](http://a.abcnews.com/images/GMA/151127_gma_llamas_0707_16x9_992.jpg)

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And it definitely doesn’t cancel out his abuse of Captain Khan’s parents.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7970 "2017-07-12T23:54:20Z")

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Republicans would have fried Obama’s ass (or Hillary’s) for being anywhere near this sort of stuff.

But SOP for the Republicans now is Party over Patriotism.

All I have to say to them is: We’re watching. We see that you’re not patriots, you’re just partisans. If any of you have even a shred of integrity left, you should be kicking Trump and his family to the curb about now.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7971 "2017-07-13T00:25:45Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Republicans would have fried Obama’s ass (or Hillary’s) for being anywhere near this sort of stuff.
> 
> But SOP for the Republicans now is Party over Patriotism.
> 
> All I have to say to them is: We’re watching. We see that you’re not patriots, you’re just partisans. If any of you have even a shred of integrity left, you should be kicking Trump and his family to the curb about now.

Nope. They would bow down and lick Putin’s nut-sack before they would ever admit that the Democrats were right. Trump could sell Alaska to Russia for three hookers and a line of blow, and they would cheer his wise business acumen.

They are completely gone.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7972 "2017-07-13T01:11:33Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> [EXCLUSIVE-Trump throws is son under the bus](http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/exclusive-trump-says-he-was-unaware-of-sons-meeting-with-russian-lawyer/ar-BBEja0F?li=BBnb7Kz)
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> So Trump Jr, Son in Law and Campaign chief all kept it from him??
> 
> [Worse, he dragged brother-in-law Jared Kushner and then-campaign chief Paul Manafort into the meeting, which proved to be a bid by a Moscow fixer to undo a US law causing trouble for her clients. (Reportedly, Kushner walked out within 10 minutes while Manafort did work on his phone.)](http://nypost.com/2017/07/11/donald-trump-jr-is-an-idiot/)

I like that last bit, it sounds like something you would say on COPS:

“No, officer, this is my brothers car. He gave it to me. Oh, and that’s his friend Rodney’s pipe - when I saw he had crack, I kicked him out of my brothers car, swear to God I did, but he must have dropped his pipe when he was leaving. Swerving? No, I wasn’t swerving. You know I’m telling the truth, right officer?”

… or to your pissed-off father:

"No, Dad, I was at the party but I had no idea all that was going on. Yeah, me and Alice were kind of kissing in the woods and had no idea there was weed and cocaine there. Yeah, I tasted a beer, I guess, but I didn’t like it and, hey, I’m here right? No, no, we didn’t go all the way. You raised me better than that, right, Dad?

Dad?"

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7973 "2017-07-13T02:09:40Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Republicans would have fried Obama’s ass (or Hillary’s) for being anywhere near this sort of stuff.
> 
> But SOP for the Republicans now is Party over Patriotism.
> 
> All I have to say to them is: We’re watching. We see that you’re not patriots, you’re just partisans. If any of you have even a shred of integrity left, you should be kicking Trump and his family to the curb about now.

> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Nope. They would bow down and lick Putin’s nut-sack before they would ever admit that the Democrats were right. Trump could sell Alaska to Russia for three hookers and a line of blow, and they would cheer his wise business acumen.
> 
> They are completely gone.

I’m waiting for the day when DJT Sr or Jr actually DOES shoot someone in cold blood in public, FOX news puts a positive spin on it, and the pubs in Congress just ignore it.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7974 "2017-07-13T02:21:25Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> I’m waiting for the day when DJT Sr or Jr actually DOES shoot someone in cold blood in public, FOX news puts a positive spin on it, and the pubs in Congress just ignore it.

I would not be surprised in the slightest. If Trump shot a baby in the head, the articles would be "Democrat tries to attack President Trump. He bravely defended himself.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7975 "2017-07-13T02:21:46Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Nope. They would bow down and lick Putin’s nut-sack before they would ever admit that the Democrats were right. Trump could sell Alaska to Russia for three hookers and a line of blow, and they would cheer his wise business acumen.
> 
> They are completely gone.

They sure are.

I saw a political ad tonight, brand new, with Ed Rollins sternly issuing a call to Trump supporters to… call some number to indicate their unwavering support for Donald Trump, who is the subject of a “witch hunt” by “Hillary Clinton and her supporters such as Robert Mueller,” without “one shred” of evidence. It was one of those sleazy, over-the-top negative ads that cause you to hastily (and usually to no avail) reach for your Mute button. Really awful.

I’m sure his supporters were licking their tee vee screens in lieu of Putin’s nut sack.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7976 "2017-07-13T02:22:15Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> You guys act like Trump hasn’t done anything good. But if you check Breitbart news, you will find that in less than six months as President, he has already designed, built, tested, and is ready to commission a [brand new aircraft carrier.](http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/07/11/trump-closer-12-carrier-navy-goal-uss-gerald-ford/)

This is SO FUCKING COOL that Trump should totally dig Ford up and make him attend the christening.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7977 "2017-07-13T02:25:22Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> They sure are.
> 
> I saw a political ad tonight, brand new, with Ed Rollins sternly issuing a call to Trump supporters to… call some number to indicate their unwavering support for Donald Trump, who is the subject of a “witch hunt” by “Hillary Clinton and her supporters such as Robert Mueller,” without “one shred” of evidence. It was one of those sleazy, over-the-top negative ads that cause you to hastily (and usually to no avail) reach for your Mute button. Really awful.
> 
> I’m sure his supporters were licking their tee vee screens in lieu of Putin’s nut sack.

What country the U.S. is is wholly dependent on one’s relationship with reality.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7978 "2017-07-13T03:05:27Z")

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The Republican Health No-Care bill raises premiums for older people by thousands. You may have heard that one.

And then;

The Republican Tax plan eliminates deductibility of health insurance premiums and health care costs.

:eek:

Screw the old and sick, apparently.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7979 "2017-07-13T03:29:38Z")

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Julian Assange admits he has a direct connection to the Trumps.

> <https://twitter.com/JulianAssange/status/884853347815235584>
>
> WikiLeaks @wikileaks

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7980 "2017-07-13T03:35:30Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> This is SO FUCKING COOL that Trump should totally dig Ford up and make him attend the christening.

Finally an aircraft carrier with USB ports!

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7981 "2017-07-13T03:44:46Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> can we get a mod to remove the “in the making…” part of the title? the cclusterfuck is well made.

O, ye of little faith. A long way down there yet is.

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**Author:** ![Bookkeeper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bookkeeper/32/281_2.png) [@Bookkeeper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bookkeeper)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7982 "2017-07-13T05:31:23Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> For a slight change of pace, Trump actually tries to be a helpful person when one of the Marines guarding Marine One loses his hat in the wind.
> 
> [Trump stopping to pick up Marine's hat blown away by wind is president's latest viral moment - ABC News](http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-stopping-pick-marines-hat-blown-wind-presidents/story?id=48528095)
> 
> It’s actually kind of a nice, if slightly awkward, moment. Poor guy lost his lid, and Trump tried to help. I think Trump is 99 and 44/100 percent pure douchebag, but for a second there he seemed like an OK sort.

Notice that he then boards the helicopter through the wrong door, ending up in the front cockpit instead of the passenger compartment, with some half-seen prolonged confusion going on around the inside door. Want to bet that they make sure to close the cockpit door before he arrives in future?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/7983 "2017-07-13T06:11:59Z")

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> [@Bookkeeper](#):
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> Notice that he then boards the helicopter through the wrong door, ending up in the front cockpit instead of the passenger compartment, with some half-seen prolonged confusion going on around the inside door. Want to bet that they make sure to close the cockpit door before he arrives in future?

I’m sure Kellyanne told him that if he was a good boy and did all his chores, he could meet the pilot before he went on his Big Exciting Trip.

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