# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8064 "2017-07-14T15:16:04Z")

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> [@Trump associates may have coordinated with Russians, according to US officials](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/965):
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> I avoid the Pit,

> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Suuure you do. Liar.

> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> This is the only Pit thread I ever posted in. So yes, I avoid the Pit.

> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> [Pants](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20310905#post20310905) [on](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20208439#post20208439) [fire](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=825515).

> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> You caught me. I am not as good at avoiding the Pit as I thought I am. I usually weigh in to correct or educate posters on the subject matter.
> 
> I still consider it a silly place where people come to behave like schoolgirls giggling over the ability to use naughty words.

Is it just me, or are there many parallels between this exchange and that of the trump admin re: russia?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8065 "2017-07-14T15:16:38Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> You caught me. I am not as good at avoiding the Pit as I thought I am.\*\* I usually weigh in to correct or educate posters\*\* on the subject matter.
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> I still consider it a silly place where people come to behave like schoolgirls giggling over the ability to use naughty words.

The only thing we learn is what a liar you are.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8066 "2017-07-14T15:28:12Z")

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> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#):
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> The board’s Search function reveals you have posted in twenty-five Pit threads.

And started two.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8067 "2017-07-14T15:35:48Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> [And now we have a body count](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/republican-donor-kills-himself-talking-021051687.html).

Ooooh. Can we please spin this into a Vince Foster style, never ending conspiracy?

What did Peter Smith know about Trump and the Russians? And, who commits suicide by “asphyxiation due to displacement of oxygen in confined space with helium”? I’ve certainly never heard of anyone doing that. And he left a note saying there was “NO FOUL PLAY WHATSOEVER”? That’s just the kind of thing professional killers would do to make you _think_ it was a suicide!

More seriously, committing suicide by replacing the oxygen in a confined space with helium is something I’ve never heard of people doing. Is it common? Would you get one of those big helium tanks they use to inflate balloons, put a wet towel at the bottom of the closet door, and open the tank? I guess that would be fairly clean as far as suicides go.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8068 "2017-07-14T15:36:17Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> You caught me. I am not as good at avoiding the Pit as I thought I am.

Moron or liar, take your pick. Although they are not exclusive.

> [@](#):
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> I usually weigh in to correct or educate posters on the subject matter.

Given your ignorance and idiocy, that’s pretty pointless.

> [@](#):
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> I still consider it a silly place where people come to behave like schoolgirls giggling over the ability to use naughty words.

There’s nothing lamer than someone coming into the Pit and tsk-tsking over the “naughty language.” If you don’t like it, then stay out of the fucking Pit, you fucking shit-eating asshole.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8069 "2017-07-14T15:38:31Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> More seriously, committing suicide by replacing the oxygen in a confined space with helium is something I’ve never heard of people doing. Is it common?

Maybe he didn’t have a gas oven or a garage. Or he did and was afraid of something going wrong and taking other people with him.

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**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8070 "2017-07-14T15:38:38Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> If you don’t like it, then stay out of the fucking Pit, you fucking shit-eating asshole.

Case in point.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8071 "2017-07-14T15:40:08Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> Moron or liar, take your pick. Although they are not exclusive.
> 
> Given your ignorance and idiocy, that’s pretty pointless.
> 
> There’s nothing lamer than someone coming into the Pit and tsk-tsking over the “naughty language.” If you don’t like it, then stay out of the fucking Pit, you fucking shit-eating asshole.

I second this.

And third it.

And …

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8072 "2017-07-14T15:42:11Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> Case in point.

Horrors! There is cursing here! Run back between the legs of Daddy **Bone** so he can protect you from the bad words!

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8073 "2017-07-14T15:44:01Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> Case in point.

Over 12% of your last 500 posts (yes, I checked, and it took about 30 seconds) have been in the BBQ Pit – that’s over 60.

Are you an idiot or a liar?

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8074 "2017-07-14T15:45:11Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> This is the only Pit thread I ever posted in. So yes, I avoid the Pit.

Well then, I’d be remiss if I passed up this rare opportunity to cordially invite you to eat an Everest of shit, and express how pleased I’ll be when you’re finally banned\* back to whatever pustulous dittohead cloaca you were expelled from, assuming (with high confidence) you don’t first stumble upon a life of your own that doesn’t involve skulking here solely to sneer and dissemble and play an endless game of Whatabout Pat-a-cake with everyone new, naïve or foolishly optimistic enough to believe you’re worth engaging with on any level.

- “Again,” I strongly suspect.

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**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8075 "2017-07-14T15:45:22Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Over 12% of your last 500 posts (yes, I checked, and it took about 30 seconds) have been in the BBQ Pit – that’s over 60.

Most (all?) of them in this thread. And no, I didn’t check.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8076 "2017-07-14T15:46:26Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Maybe he didn’t have a gas oven or a garage. Or he did and was afraid of something going wrong and taking other people with him.

Huh. Apparently it’s often done with a “suicide bag” where you put a plastic bag over your head and put an inert gas in it to avoid the feelings of panic and suffocation.

I also just learned that if you google that, one of the first hits is a site providing advice and instructions on suicide methods. ☹

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8077 "2017-07-14T15:54:09Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> Most (all?) of them in this thread. And no, I didn’t check.

296 posts of 1,747 in The Pit. 174 in this thread. 58.7%  
Technically most, not overwhelmingly.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8078 "2017-07-14T15:56:22Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> Huh. Apparently it’s often done with a “suicide bag” where you put a plastic bag over your head and put an inert gas in it to avoid the feelings of panic and suffocation.

♬ _Suffocation! Hooray for suffocation!  
Suffocation! It’s so fun to play.  
First you take a plastic bag  
Then you put it on your head  
Go to bed  
Wake up dead  
Wheeeeeee!  
Suffocation! Hooray for suffocation!  
Suffocation! It’s so fun to play._ ♬

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8079 "2017-07-14T15:58:22Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Over 12% of your last 500 posts (yes, I checked, and it took about 30 seconds) have been in the BBQ Pit – that’s over 60.
> 
> Are you an idiot or a liar?

“or”?

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8080 "2017-07-14T15:58:58Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> 296 posts of 1,747 in The Pit. 174 in this thread. 58.7%  
> Technically most, not overwhelmingly.

Tossing Okrahoman “logic” back at him. Good show.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8081 "2017-07-14T16:03:53Z")

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You guys do realize that this is all Obama’s fault, right? Him and Hillary… and that Ben Gazi guy.

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**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8082 "2017-07-14T16:16:38Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> You guys do realize that this is all Obama’s fault, right? Him and Hillary… and that Ben Gazi guy.

What Ben Gazi is a guy? I thought Benghazi was some kind of weapon of mass destruction like the Lewinsky based mainly on how much of a big deal it was.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8083 "2017-07-14T16:24:29Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> ♬ _Suffocation! Hooray for suffocation!  
> Suffocation! It’s so fun to play.  
> First you take a plastic bag  
> Then you put it on your head  
> Go to bed  
> Wake up dead  
> Wheeeeeee!  
> Suffocation! Hooray for suffocation!  
> Suffocation! It’s so fun to play._ ♬

Yes this is the pit, but that steps over the line of bad taste IMHO. ☹

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