# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 408
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2017, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8144 "2017-07-15T23:14:58Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > The voter “fraud” commission got a lot of complaints from individual people about their fishing expedition for people’s voter information. So they thought it would be appropriate to publish the names, email addresses, and home phone and addresses of those people. > [White House publishes names, emails, phone numbers, home addresses of critics.](http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/07/15/white_house_publishes_names_emails_phone_numbers_home_addresses_of_critics.html) That’s really disgusting. Worse, in that article I see that the White House defended it saying they were warned. What a horrible attempt to repress dissent. Trump sure is making America great again. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2017, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8145 "2017-07-15T23:25:29Z")
Steve Bannon and Jared Kushner want to outsource the war in Afghanistan to Blackwater mercenaries. Blackwater, by the way, is run by Betsy DeVos’s brother. > **[Steve Bannon wants to outsource Afghanistan to mercs](https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/07/steve-bannon-wants-to-outsource-afghanistan-to-mercs/)** > > Trump’s inner circle has developed a genius plan for winning the war in Afghanistan: Erik D. Prince, a founder of the private security firm Blackwater Worldwide, and Stephen A. Feinberg, a billionaire financier who owns the giant military contractor... ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2017, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8146 "2017-07-15T23:44:43Z")
Congressman Ted Lieu (who I really wish would run for Dianne Feinstein’s seat in the Senate) has sent a letter to the Alabama Bar Association listing Jeff Sessions’s legal violations. > **[Rep. Ted Lieu sends formal list of Jeff Sessions' legal violations to Alabama...](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/7/12/1680106/-Rep-Ted-Lieu-pens-formal-list-of-Jeff-Sessions-legal-violations-to-Alabama-State-Bar?detail=emaildkre)** > > If you follow California House Rep. Ted Lieu on Twitter (Dem-CA), you are aware that he’s one of the most vocal, legally savvy, quick-witted and informative Congress members on social media today. He stays on top of the self-incriminating... ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2017, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8147 "2017-07-16T00:46:36Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > > > It will all be Obama’s fault. > > Absolutely. The party of calling themselves the Party Of Personal Responsibility requires a fall guy to account for their lack of ability to accomplish promises. And they’re not even original about it. Their fall guy, naturally (in their twisted little so-called minds), has to be a Black man. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2017, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8148 "2017-07-16T01:24:15Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > And they’re not even original about it. Their fall guy, naturally (in their twisted little so-called minds), has to be a Black man. Well, it’s not like he’s actually an _American_. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2017, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8149 "2017-07-16T02:09:33Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > What works best is if we cease to acknowledge his existence. who’s existence? ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2017, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8150 "2017-07-16T03:13:21Z")
> [@mikecurtis](#): > > From Dr. David Gorski in [Science Based Medicine](https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/trumps-new-cdc-director-is-very-pro-vaccine-but-was-she-also-at-one-time-a-quack/) > > Good News > Bad News > Conclusion Welll… at least her particular form of quackery doesn’t kill people. _always look on the bright side of life_ _whistles_ ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2017, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8151 "2017-07-16T04:04:56Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > Welll… at least her particular form of quackery doesn’t kill people. > > _always look on the bright side of life_ > _whistles_ Her particular form of quackery is something she could turn a profit on. How’s anybody supposed to make money by not vaccinating kids? ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2017, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8152 "2017-07-16T04:22:13Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > I suggest that we cleave to the Orthodox position that he is both fully idiot and fully liar, and shun heretical views that would elevate his idiot nature or his liar nature above the other. History suggests that that even an iota of such controversy would end badly. Nicaea what you did there. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2017, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8153 "2017-07-16T04:51:33Z")
> [@simster](#): > > who’s existence? By George, he’s got it! ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2017, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8154 "2017-07-16T06:28:57Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Oh, in the NY TIMES he’s still the obnoxious Brooksie of old. Did you see his Tuesday column about how everything is the fault of those elitist libruls and their fancy Italian lunchmeat? > > [https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/13/opinion/its-not-the-fault-of-the-sandwich-shop-readers-debate-david-brookss-column.html?\_r=0](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/13/opinion/its-not-the-fault-of-the-sandwich-shop-readers-debate-david-brookss-column.html?_r=0) That is the **STUPIDEST** thing I’ve read in a long, long time. I’ve found Brooks to be annoying in the past but after reading that, at least for right now, I hate him with the heat of ten thousand suns. Fucking arrogant tool. > [@Smapti](#): > > [My favorite response to that article.](https://twitter.com/BenMathisLilley/status/884774855991857152/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.slate.com%2Fblogs%2Fthe_slatest%2F2017%2F07%2F11%2Fdavid_brooks_cites_foreign_ingredients_as_barrier_to_social_mobility.html) Pretty damn perfect. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2017, 9:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8155 "2017-07-16T09:10:06Z")
[…Trump vs Obama scandals.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDIoiTyK7S0) Courtesy of The Late Show with Stephen Colbert. Apologies if already posted. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2017, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8156 "2017-07-16T16:06:31Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Oh, in the NY TIMES he’s still the obnoxious Brooksie of old. Did you see his Tuesday column about how everything is the fault of those elitist libruls and their fancy Italian lunchmeat? I’m ten paragraphs in and so far he’s writing some really excellent (and non partisan) points. Do upper class people’s kids dominate university admissions, at least in large part due to factors not related to their actual smarts? Yup, that’s true. Is it a problem? Yes. Do rich people manipulate zoning laws to keep poor people away from them? They absolutely do. His last three paragraphs are not as easily proven to be true, but, come on, there’s SOME truth there. Actual conversation I had once at a party in Toronto: Upper Class Privileged White Filmmaking Guy: So how do you know (hosts)? Me: I’m (Hostess’s name) brother in law. UCPWFG: Oh! Where do you live? Me: Oakville. (Suburban city outside Toronto) UCPWFG: Oh, so, you have no culture? Me: I’m sorry? UCPWFG: You must live without any culture, you know. Being out there. Me: (waits for him to complete joke) UCPWFG: (was not joking.) Do you know about foreign films? Me: They have films in other countries? Gosh, would those be at one of those lie-brair-ee things? This really happened. Okay, so maybe funnmy sounding sandwich meats isn’t the issue. But the division between upper class and lower is an issue, and a lot of liberals boo Trump while cheerfully seeing to it the minorities stay in their own schools, and let’s not pretend that doesn’t happen. This isn’t a “Both sides do it” thing. Liberals are not the ones who listen to reality-denying news sources and “Christian” radio stations that preach hatred. But the class division is a real thing. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2017, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8157 "2017-07-16T16:55:21Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Okay, so maybe funnmy sounding sandwich meats isn’t the issue. But the division between upper class and lower is an issue, and a lot of liberals boo Trump while cheerfully seeing to it the minorities stay in their own schools, and let’s not pretend that doesn’t happen. > > This isn’t a “Both sides do it” thing. Liberals are not the ones who listen to reality-denying news sources and “Christian” radio stations that preach hatred. But the class division is a real thing. Yeah, I’m slightly left of center, and I find his column to be fairly accurate. ---
**Author:** ![Melcalc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/melcalc/32/468_2.png) [@Melcalc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melcalc)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2017, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8158 "2017-07-16T18:49:29Z")
Trump calls for transparent wall, so that we can see people who throw sacks of heroin over the wall. > **[Trump Wants A See-Through Border Wall So That People Won’t Get Hit With...](https://crooksandliars.com/2017/07/trump-wants-see-through-border-wall-so)** > > A border wall you can see through? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2017, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8159 "2017-07-16T18:53:36Z")
> [@Melcalc](#): > > Trump calls for transparent wall, so that we can see people who throw sacks of heroin over the wall. > [http://crooksandliars.com/2017/07/trump-wants-see-through-border-wall-so](http://crooksandliars.com/2017/07/trump-wants-see-through-border-wall-so) I wonder if he plans on building the wall through downtown El Paso or something, where passing pedestrians might be in danger of flying drugs. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2017, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8160 "2017-07-16T19:14:20Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > I wonder if he plans on building the wall through downtown El Paso or something, where passing pedestrians might be in danger of flying drugs. Has he considered that this might attract hordes of drug addicts who will loiter along the approximately 2,000-mile border wall just waiting for sacks of drugs to come flying over? Hmmm?? Sure, out in the hundreds upon hundreds of miles of desert this will be no problem, as they’ll probably die of thirst or heat stroke, but what about the loiterers in downtown El Paso and Laredo. They’ll create a huge traffic jam, lying around in drug-induced stupors. But noooo, Trump never thinks ahead to the consequences of his ideas and pronouncements. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2017, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8161 "2017-07-16T19:16:31Z")
> [@Melcalc](#): > > Trump calls for transparent wall, so that we can see people who throw sacks of heroin over the wall. > [http://crooksandliars.com/2017/07/trump-wants-see-through-border-wall-so](http://crooksandliars.com/2017/07/trump-wants-see-through-border-wall-so) Trump is such an idiot. They’re not going to be heaving 60 lb bags of drugs over a 15 foot wall. They will be _ **25 kilo** _ bags. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2017, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8162 "2017-07-16T19:27:04Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Trump never thinks ahead to the consequences of his ideas and pronouncements. Typical of most (virtually all?) modern Republicans. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2017, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8163 "2017-07-16T19:42:24Z")
> [@Melcalc](#): > > Trump calls for transparent wall, so that we can see people who throw sacks of heroin over the wall. I’ve heard that two builders have offered to build Emperor Donald a low-cost wall that is so transparent it will be invisible to all those who are unfit for their positions, stupid, or incompetent. They displayed to Emperor Donald a scale model of how it would look, made out of the actual super hi-tech material they would be using to build it. “I love it! It’s beautiful!”, proclaimed the Emperor. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=407) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=409)