# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2017, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8224 "2017-07-17T16:30:17Z")

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> [@SaneBill](#):
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> Indeed, and the drug smugglers don’t dare to throw those 60 lb sacks over it because they won’t see where and how high the wall is. If they throw too soon or too low the sack may bounce and hit their own head. It’s genius, I’ll tell ya.

No more than two hits on a side before it goes over the wall, preferably by spiking it. No out of bounds, though.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2017, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8225 "2017-07-17T16:48:51Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> The Media  
> Obama  
> Clinton  
> The Secret Service  
> The Media  
> The Russians  
> Their Lawyers  
> Treasonous Leakers

Bingo!

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8226 "2017-07-17T20:14:48Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> I’m much more concernced with the current level of distrust in the system itself -
> 
> ‘fake news’  
> ‘shadow government’  
> the president himself not trusting his own agencies.
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> now get serious traction - its well beyond a healthy skepticism or mistrust (which can be used to keep things in check) - but this admin pushes that everyone is against them - it’s cult like.

This IS insidious and destructive. It works on the well-supported theory that humans love to be flattered:

_"You’re much too smart_ to fall for the lie that government actions could ever have a positive effect of any kind!!!1!!!"\*\*

Of course those being flattered don’t stop to think about the advantages the manipulators themselves gain from the absence of government oversight or rules. The flattered folks are much too busy congratulating themselves for being so ‘smart.’

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2017, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8227 "2017-07-17T20:22:33Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> No more than two hits on a side before it goes over the wall, preferably by spiking it. No out of bounds, though.

In another thread I commented that maybe they should line the US side of the wall with trampolines. That way the sacks of drugs will bounce back over the wall and hit the MEXICANS in the head! WINNING!

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**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2017, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8228 "2017-07-17T20:31:16Z")

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Why not wind farms along the wall, too? The turbines would shred the sacks and drugs and birds into a dreamy, proteiny cloud that would then be pushed back into Mexico again. Everybody wins!

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2017, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8229 "2017-07-17T21:21:02Z")

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Why should the birds be entitled to my smack? Let them score their own supply.

I mean, er, poor birds!

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2017, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8230 "2017-07-17T21:53:09Z")

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165 pages in this thread alone. And we’ve come full circle four or five times.

So easy to make jokes. But it’s not a laughing matter. It sometimes seems the only way to deal with this absurd administration though.

What next? I don’t care that much about the latest scandal. Unless it somehow removes him and his cronies.

Trump is an asshole. Plain and simple. He has made that perfectly clear for the last 30 fucking years.

A stupid, narcissistic asshole. That’s about the nicest thing that could be said about him.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2017, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8231 "2017-07-17T23:23:50Z")

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> [@](#):
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> (from ABC news article linked above)…The president also is expected to issue a proclamation Wednesday on the importance of making goods in America, and will travel to Virginia on Saturday for the commissioning of the USS Gerald R. Ford, a new aircraft carrier.

Gee I wonder - as преЦАРдент Trump waves “congrats” at the boat opening, he’ll probably be thinking, “Jesus fuck what’s Ford’s stupid fuckin name up there for when it obviously shoulda been MY fucking name!!!”

> [@Randolph](#):
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> Why not wind farms along the wall, too? The turbines would shred the sacks and drugs and birds into a dreamy, proteiny cloud that would then be pushed back into Mexico again. Everybody wins!

Or if they could turn up the setting on the solar panels that they’re putting on top of the wall so that they’re super hot and totally scorch/vaporize all those rucksacks of lobbed heroin.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2017, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8232 "2017-07-17T23:33:23Z")

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> [@Eddie The Horrible](#):
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> Gee I wonder - as преЦАРдент Trump waves “congrats” at the boat opening, he’ll probably be thinking, “Jesus fuck what’s Ford’s stupid fuckin name up there for when it obviously shoulda been MY fucking name!!!”

CVN-78 Gerald R. Ford  
CVN-79 John F. Kennedy - expected to be launched in 2018, commissioned 2020.  
CVN-80 Enterprise - expected to be launched in 2023, commissioned in 2025.

I bet he’s already asked to have the new Big E named after him instead.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2017, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8233 "2017-07-18T00:07:08Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> 165 pages in this thread alone. And we’ve come full circle four or five times.
> 
> So easy to make jokes. But it’s not a laughing matter. It sometimes seems the only way to deal with this absurd administration though.
> 
> What next? I don’t care that much about the latest scandal. Unless it somehow removes him and his cronies.
> 
> Trump is an asshole. Plain and simple. He has made that perfectly clear for the last 30 fucking years.
> 
> A stupid, narcissistic asshole. That’s about the nicest thing that could be said about him.

Yeah, it’s sad. I blame opioids, that’s my latest theory. A correlation between counties affected by opioids and counties that went for Trump has been noted

> **[Study: Communities Most Affected By Opioid Epidemic Also Voted For Trump](https://www.npr.org/2016/12/17/505965420/study-communities-most-affected-by-opioid-epidemic-also-voted-for-trump)**
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> Voting patterns show that areas where Donald Trump did well were also places where opiate overdoses and deaths occurred. NPR's Scott Simon speaks with Shannon Monnat who led the study.

Most analysts seem to attribute it to the usual underemployed communities, decay and despair – but I think they’re missing it.  
I think Trump won because there are millions of “Red State Americans” that are hopped up on OxyContin and black tar heroin bemoaning the like of job opportunities for borderline suicidal heroin addicts and they were high enough to believe Trump and think he looked good. That’s the only possible explanation ,the whole thing is still totally surreal.

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**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2017, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8234 "2017-07-18T00:19:06Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> CVN-78 Gerald R. Ford  
> CVN-79 John F. Kennedy - expected to be launched in 2018, commissioned 2020.  
> CVN-80 Enterprise - expected to be launched in 2023, commissioned in 2025.
> 
> I bet he’s already asked to have the new Big E named after him instead.

I can only hope that if he ever would the person he asked started laughing with tears streaming down their face.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2017, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8235 "2017-07-18T02:42:55Z")

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We should get Trump [more trucks.](https://twitter.com/RandyRenstrom/status/887120287128580098)

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2017, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8236 "2017-07-18T03:04:00Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Well, if the Republicans pass their No-Health Care bill _and_ pass their tax bill, I’m just waiting for the results to dawn on older Republican voters - their very base.
> 
> The ‘Health’ bill has already been shown to lead to skyrocketing rates for Older americans.
> 
> The Tax bill eliminates deductions for health insurance and medical expenses.
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> And they also want to slash social security. But even if they don’t do that, the two above are quite the 1-2 punch to their base.

But they are the goat felchers who voted for him. They will follow his lead, and blame the Democrats. Because they are fucking stupid.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2017, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8237 "2017-07-18T03:08:25Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Fucking bullies.

Bunch of scumbags.

Some of the responses were priceless though.

> **[From Goatse to ‘F\*ck Off,’ the Best Emails Sent to Trump’s Election Commission](https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/07/funny-emails-sent-to-kobachs-election-integrity-commission.html)**
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> There’s a high proportion of four-letter words.

[http://aplus.com/a/voter-fraud-commission-responses-trump?no\_monetization=true](http://aplus.com/a/voter-fraud-commission-responses-trump?no_monetization=true)

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2017, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8238 "2017-07-18T03:15:34Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> …and with this proclamation, the Trump administration can scale back the wall promises to a much more affordable _ **fence** _: which can be built for substantially less, which will then be declared a \*\*huge \*\*victory.

But the fence will be built at WALL prices, with all the profits going to him.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2017, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8239 "2017-07-18T03:22:22Z")

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Rex Tillerson is closing the State Departmen’s war crimes office.  
[Tillerson to Shutter State Department War Crimes Office – Foreign Policy](http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/07/17/tillerson-to-shutter-state-department-war-crimes-office/)?

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**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2017, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8240 "2017-07-18T04:29:15Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Rex Tillerson is closing the State Departmen’s war crimes office.  
> [Tillerson to Shutter State Department War Crimes Office – Foreign Policy](http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/07/17/tillerson-to-shutter-state-department-war-crimes-office/)?

It’s not needed anymore. No one commits war crimes these days.

Because these days there are no wars.

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2017, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8241 "2017-07-18T05:09:11Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Rex Tillerson is closing the State Departmen’s war crimes office.  
> [Tillerson to Shutter State Department War Crimes Office – Foreign Policy](http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/07/17/tillerson-to-shutter-state-department-war-crimes-office/)?

It was in conflict with the Office of War Crimes Planning that Gorka, Miller and Bannon have established in the West Wing.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2017, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8242 "2017-07-18T05:11:55Z")

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> [@jasg](#):
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> It was in conflict with the Office of War Crimes Planning that Gorka, Miller and Bannon have established in the West Wing.

Good one.

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**Author:** ![Max\_Torque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2017, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8243 "2017-07-18T14:17:04Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Rex Tillerson is closing the State Departmen’s war crimes office.  
> [Tillerson to Shutter State Department War Crimes Office – Foreign Policy](http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/07/17/tillerson-to-shutter-state-department-war-crimes-office/)?

Well, once he figured out that it wasn’t a “how-to” kind of thing…

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