# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 416
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8304 "2017-07-20T04:53:21Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > [Trumpelthinskin says](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/342843-trump-sessions-recusal-unfair-to-me) he never would have picked the Keebler Drow as Attorney General if he’d known he’d recuse himself from the Kremlin Connection investigation, and whines about how “very unfair” it was to not tell him about this up front. Why doesn’t he just fire him and pick somebody else then? He could make it all televised. Bring Sessions into the board room… oval office. He’d get to use his infamous catch phrase. It’d be great! Republicans would tune in to see their God Emperor and Democrats would tune in to see Sessions get canned. Think of the ratings. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8305 "2017-07-20T05:42:30Z")
> [@BeepKillBeep](#): > > Why doesn’t he just fire him and pick somebody else then? He could make it all televised. Bring Sessions into the board room… oval office. He’d get to use his infamous catch phrase. It’d be great! Republicans would tune in to see their God Emperor and Democrats would tune in to see Sessions get canned. Think of the ratings. Honestly, I don’t see how Sessions can stay on and retain any self respect or dignity. > [@](#): > > “Jeff Sessions takes the job, gets into the job, recuses himself, which frankly I think is very unfair to the president,” he added. “How do you take a job and then recuse yourself? If he would have recused himself before the job, I would have said, ‘Thanks, Jeff, but I’m not going to take you.’ It’s extremely unfair — and that’s a mild word — to the president.” There are a lot of things that could be said in parsing that quote but I don’t see how Sessions can hear that and not just say, “Fuck it. I’m done with this nonsense.” ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8306 "2017-07-20T06:48:38Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > The Pentagon’s second highest general warns against killer robots. > [http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/18/politics/paul-selva-gary-peters-autonomous-weapons-killer-robots/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/18/politics/paul-selva-gary-peters-autonomous-weapons-killer-robots/index.html) They’re not that hard to defeat. Just tell them you’re lying. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8307 "2017-07-20T06:51:41Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > Honestly, I don’t see how Sessions can stay on and retain any self respect or dignity. > > There are a lot of things that could be said in parsing that quote but I don’t see how Sessions can hear that and not just say, “Fuck it. I’m done with this nonsense.” Anyone with a shred of self-respect or dignity would resign. And nobody with a shred of self-respect or dignity would agree to take his place. Which is why I’m proud to announce that I’m selling “Christie for AG” T-shirts out of my van. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8308 "2017-07-20T08:12:28Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > Anyone with a shred of self-respect or dignity would resign. He’s a republican. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8309 "2017-07-20T08:47:53Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > Honestly, I don’t see how Sessions can stay on and retain any self respect or dignity. > > There are a lot of things that could be said in parsing that quote but I don’t see how Sessions can hear that and not just say, “Fuck it. I’m done with this nonsense.” That’s true, if he sees his job as working with the president to achieve the administration’s goals. If he’s pursuing his own independent program based on his own desires for the criminal justice system, this is just noise. I fear he may see this as a once in a lifetime chance to roll back reform and terrorize non-white communities, so I doubt another marble rolling out of Trump’s head will bother him much. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8310 "2017-07-20T11:16:14Z")
> [@BeepKillBeep](#): > > Why doesn’t he just fire him and pick somebody else then? He could make it all televised. Bring Sessions into the board room… oval office. He’d get to use his infamous catch phrase. It’d be great! Republicans would tune in to see their God Emperor and Democrats would tune in to see Sessions get canned. Think of the ratings. You assume that Loser Donald actually understands what his powers are. This assumption is not supported by evidence. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8311 "2017-07-20T12:23:34Z")
From the NYT interview: > [@](#): > > So pre-existing conditions are a tough deal. Because you are basically saying from the moment the insurance, you’re 21 years old, you start working and you’re paying $12 a year for insurance, and by the time you’re 70, you get a nice plan. Trump really does think, apparently, that young people pay twelve dollars a year for health insurance. Although maybe he meant to say “$12 a month”. Earlier this year he said that he thought that people paid $15 a month for health insurance. In either case, it’s still absurd. That would be $180 a year, while average rates in the US are $235 a month, and the top state average rate is $473 a month. You can easily pay higher, of course, and family rates are much more. > **[Donald Trump Doesn't Seem To Know What Health Insurance Is, How It Works Or...](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-health-insurance-cost_n_597042f3e4b062ea5f8f2430?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009)** > > The president suggested it costs $12 a year. ---
**Author:** ![Crybaby\_Boobie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crybaby_boobie/32/545_2.png) [@Crybaby\_Boobie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crybaby_Boobie)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8312 "2017-07-20T12:34:22Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > Honestly, I don’t see how Sessions can stay on and retain any self respect or dignity. > > There are a lot of things that could be said in parsing that quote but I don’t see how Sessions can hear that and not just say, “Fuck it. I’m done with this nonsense.” It seems to me that trumpster fire would clearly like to fire Sessions, but someone told him (and he actually listened!) that it would seem even more obstructiony than firing Comey. So Sessions resigning is what he wants. And why give him anything he wants? Of course, at the same time Sessions is a truly awful AG so far, so he probably should resign. This is why this administration is going to make my head explode like those robots. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8313 "2017-07-20T12:47:35Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > From the NYT interview: > > Trump really does think, apparently, that young people pay twelve dollars a year for health insurance. Although maybe he meant to say “$12 a month”. Earlier this year he said that he thought that people paid $15 a month for health insurance. In either case, it’s still absurd. That would be $180 a year, while average rates in the US are $235 a month, and the top state average rate is $473 a month. You can easily pay higher, of course, and family rates are much more. > > [Trump Doesn't Seem To Know What Health Insurance Is, How It Works Or What It Costs | HuffPost Latest News](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-health-insurance-cost_us_597042f3e4b062ea5f8f2430?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009) I suppose it makes sense that they think that people are buying iphones rather than insurance, if they are so out of touch with the country that they think that it costs 15 a month/year for insurance. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8314 "2017-07-20T12:49:45Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > From the NYT interview: > > Trump really does think, apparently, that young people pay twelve dollars a year for health insurance. Although maybe he meant to say “$12 a month”. Earlier this year he said that he thought that people paid $15 a month for health insurance. In either case, it’s still absurd. That would be $180 a year, while average rates in the US are $235 a month, and the top state average rate is $473 a month. You can easily pay higher, of course, and family rates are much more. > > [Trump Doesn't Seem To Know What Health Insurance Is, How It Works Or What It Costs | HuffPost Latest News](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-health-insurance-cost_us_597042f3e4b062ea5f8f2430?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009) He thinks it works like life insurance. Still. Even though he’s been wowing the senators with how much he knows. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8315 "2017-07-20T12:55:48Z")
Sounds like the typical rich guy being simply out of touch. Nelson Rockefeller in a debate in 1968: “Let’s take the average guy making $100,000 a year.” ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8316 "2017-07-20T12:57:06Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > Honestly, I don’t see how Sessions can stay on and retain any self respect or dignity. Discarding those, if you even have them, is a prerequisite for accepting the job. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8317 "2017-07-20T13:48:25Z")
> [@Lord\_Feldon](#): > > He thinks it works like life insurance. Still. Even though he’s been wowing the senators with how much he knows. > [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Sounds like the typical rich guy being simply out of touch. Nelson Rockefeller in a debate in 1968: “Let’s take the average guy making $100,000 a year.” I wonder if [this](https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/0*XQ7nwIeSfLku3Lx9.png) is where he got those numbers. From [here](https://thinkprogress.org/mcdonalds-tells-workers-to-budget-by-getting-a-second-job-and-turning-off-their-heat-c3bce1526c1e). ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8318 "2017-07-20T16:47:15Z")
I wonder if the [“no speekey the Engrish” strategy](http://www.newsweek.com/japan-akie-abe-pretend-english-donald-trump-639606) could work for everyone? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8319 "2017-07-20T17:20:48Z")
This is lovely. Watch Trump drool as he rants about health care votes. [https://twitter.com/aravosis/status/887489981668888576](https://twitter.com/aravosis/status/887489981668888576) ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8320 "2017-07-20T17:27:10Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > Trump really does think, apparently, that young people pay twelve dollars a year for health insurance. Although maybe he meant to say “$12 a month”. Earlier this year he said that he thought that people paid $15 a month for health insurance. In either case, it’s still absurd. If the White House comes up with a health care bill that has reasonable deductibles and some of the same protections that the ACA has (preexisting conditions, lifetime limits, etc.) that costs $15/year, I will do everything that I can to get my very, very Democratic senators & congresswoman and beg them to vote for it. I’ll even do it for $20/year. I’m not holding my breath. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8321 "2017-07-20T17:37:58Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …I’ve only ever heard Kushner speak [once](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0SP0T9nS9A). So of course he gets to testify in closed session. Because the Trump administration is entirely normal, and not a sitcom or a reality show. If I, a grown man, still sounded like a 13-year-old boy, I’d want to testify in a closed session, too. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8322 "2017-07-20T17:46:19Z")
Apparently, the wife of the Japanese prime minister acted like she didn’t speak English for two whole hours as to avoid talking to Donald Trump. [https://twitter.com/samthielman/status/887987198146097152](https://twitter.com/samthielman/status/887987198146097152) ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8323 "2017-07-20T18:06:06Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > I wonder if the [“no speekey the Engrish” strategy](http://www.newsweek.com/japan-akie-abe-pretend-english-donald-trump-639606) could work for everyone? It’s been working for Trump. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=415) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=417)