# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 425
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8484 "2017-07-23T03:46:26Z")
Didn’t understand it at first, and still don’t. Why would anyone get on Trumps three wheeled cart heading for a cliff? You don’t need a PHD to see that a building is on fire. They are jumping in the same cart with a man that can’t form a proper sentence. …I feel sorry for the Secret Service men and women that are in charge of protecting him and no doubt showing him where the little boys room is. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8485 "2017-07-23T03:54:09Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Isn’t that one of those elitist sandwich fillings? Well played. > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Trump hasn’t said that the claim of J. Beauregard Sessions having met with the Russian ambassador despite his denial, isn’t true. Instead, he’s saying that it was leaked intelligence. Does that make it true? > Although this might be a case of Trump throwing Beauregard under the bus, and he actually leaked the story. Self-leakage at the accelerated rate of deterioration he’s in - sure, why not. I believe Scaramucci is that twerpy little cousin of Jerzy Kosinski’s. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8486 "2017-07-23T03:59:12Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Didn’t understand it at first, and still don’t. > > Why would anyone get on Trumps three wheeled cart heading for a cliff? > > You don’t need a PHD to see that a building is on fire. > > They are jumping in the same cart with a man that can’t form a proper sentence. All I can figure is that they think that they can jump out of the cart at the last minute, clutching a mitt full of cash. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8487 "2017-07-23T04:06:20Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > **cart** with a **man**. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8488 "2017-07-23T08:32:50Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > To me, he looks like Nick Satan- I mean Saban. He looks like Ray Wise should call his agent. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8489 "2017-07-23T12:31:51Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Trump hasn’t said that the claim of J. Beauregard Sessions having met with the Russian ambassador despite his denial, isn’t true. Instead, he’s saying that it was leaked intelligence. Does that make it true? > Although this might be a case of Trump throwing Beauregard under the bus, and he actually leaked the story. Donald explains: [Quote=Fuckface McClownstick] The leaks are real. The news is fake. [/Quote] ---
**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8490 "2017-07-23T12:45:54Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > The President pro tempore of the Senate is 83 year old ultraconservative Orrin Hatch. > > [Orrin Hatch - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orrin_Hatch) > > No, we do not want this man as president. At this point I would be happy to have a President who can follow a thought from beginning to end and will fully staff the various departments that have tumbleweeds blowing through them right now. Politics be damned, this country is getting hollowed out by termites at the top and it needs to be stopped. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8491 "2017-07-23T13:32:11Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Isn’t that one of those elitist sandwich fillings? > > Trump hasn’t said that the claim of J. Beauregard Sessions having met with the Russian ambassador despite his denial, isn’t true. Instead, he’s saying that it was **leaked intelligence**. Does that make it true? > Although this might be a case of Trump throwing Beauregard under the bus, and he actually leaked the story. Bold added. More like “leaked stupidity.” ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8492 "2017-07-23T13:39:57Z")
> [@Catamount](#): > > At this point I would be happy to have a President who can follow a thought from beginning to end and will fully staff the various departments that have tumbleweeds blowing through them right now. Politics be damned, this country is getting hollowed out by termites at the top and it needs to be stopped. Orrin Hatch is the reason supplements are [basically unregulated](https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/06/opinion/the-politics-of-fraudulent-dietary-supplements.html) in this country. > [@](#): > > To understand how we got here, you have to go back to 1994, when Senator Orrin G. Hatch of Utah midwifed through Congress a new industry protected from all but minimal regulation. **It is also an industry that would make many of his closest associates and family members rich. In turn, they’ve rewarded him with sizable campaign contributions.** > > Even though serious illnesses, and some deaths are on the rise from misuse of these supplements, Hatch is determined to keep regulators at bay. “I am committed to protect this industry and the integrity of its products,” he told a gathering of potency pill-pushers and the like in Utah last fall. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8493 "2017-07-23T14:18:11Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Orrin Hatch is the reason supplements are [basically unregulated](https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/06/opinion/the-politics-of-fraudulent-dietary-supplements.html) in this country. Ah, that’s run-of-the-mill Republican greed and duplicity. Might have been news a few years ago, but Trumpsky and his cabal have raised the stakes WAY higher now. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8494 "2017-07-23T14:53:35Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#): > > Just a thought. Anything preventing an impeached president from running again? [QUOTE=The Constitution of the United States] Judgment in Cases of Impeachments shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust, or Profit under the United States… [/QUOTE] There are only two punishments they can inflict: 1. You’re out of office. 2. And you can’t get back in. If Congress were sufficiently angry enough to go as far as conviction, of course they were bar him from running again. It’s almost incomprehensible the GOP would go as far as conviction at all; to actually go that far we’d need absolutely slam-bang, no-doubt-about it evidence of treason so extensive that even Trumpists would turn against him, which would be an incredible amount of evidence indeed. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8495 "2017-07-23T14:54:20Z")
Yeah, don’t wanna get killed by shady supplements? Don’t take them. Don’t want to get killed by an incompetent short-fused immature world leader with access to the nuclear codes? Keep your fingers crossed! ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8496 "2017-07-23T15:13:08Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > All I can figure is that they think that they can jump out of the cart at the last minute, clutching a _mitt full of cash_. My italic. You mean one of [these](http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Romney-All-Your-Wealth.jpg)? ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8497 "2017-07-23T15:34:50Z")
Can we slow our roll on the whole chain of command talk please? I despise Trump as next as the next person with functioning brain cells, but I’m not seeing Congressional Republicans ever putting country above party enough to actually impeach a Republican President. The investigations into Russia could easily find the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians to harm Clinton’s chances, and then lied about it, but until the Republicans in power do anything about it, it’s not gonna happen. Trump could just pardon everyone, and, unless they stop being who they’ve been for the last few decades, Congressional Republicans would simply tsk tsk it away, or make excuses for it, and life will go on. Unless Trump somehow impedes their efforts to give the rich more tax breaks, or takes a hard line against the business interests of Republicans, I can’t envision them growing a spine. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8498 "2017-07-23T15:42:23Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > Can we slow our roll on the whole chain of command talk please? I despise Trump as next as the next person with functioning brain cells, but I’m not seeing Congressional Republicans ever putting country above party enough to actually impeach a Republican President. The investigations into Russia could easily find the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians to harm Clinton’s chances, and then lied about it, but until the Republicans in power do anything about it, it’s not gonna happen. Trump could just pardon everyone, and, unless they stop being who they’ve been for the last few decades, Congressional Republicans would simply tsk tsk it away, or make excuses for it, and life will go on. Unless Trump somehow impedes their efforts to give the rich more tax breaks, or takes a hard line against the business interests of Republicans, I can’t envision them growing a spine. One hope is that the voters will react to that appropriately. I dont expect many of the Trumpistas to change, they seem to be a lost cause, but maybe more Democrats will actually bother to go to the polls in an off year election. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8499 "2017-07-23T16:26:59Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > One hope is that the voters will react to that appropriately. I dont expect many of the Trumpistas to change, they seem to be a lost cause, but maybe more Democrats will actually bother to go to the polls in an off year election. That would be great, although highly unlikely to change anything of substance. They would still need a sizable number of Republicans to vote both for impeachment, and then a good chunk of Republicans in the Senate to vote for removal after a trial (2/3 of the Senate. Which is why it’s never been done before). I suppose Trump could just resign if it gets to impeachment, but I don’t see Republicans actually doing anything to hold him accountable. Party before country. ---
**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8500 "2017-07-23T17:38:55Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Ah, that’s run-of-the-mill Republican greed and duplicity. Might have been news a few years ago, but Trumpsky and his cabal have raised the stakes WAY higher now. Exactly. I long for the days of regular Republican stupidity. Even Shrubya’s looking good now and that was a feat I would have though impossible only a year ago. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8501 "2017-07-23T18:36:29Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > After Speaker is President pro tempore of the Senate, as already mentioned. After that it’s the heads of the Cabinet departments in order of their creation: Tillerson, Mnuchin, Mattis, Sessions, etc. Ben Carson is 13th in line. While pondering a great debates thread about how the world would look if ruled by women I was curious who would be president if all men suddenly up and died. Answer: Betsy Devos :eek: One of the very few people in government who is actually less qualified to be running the country than Trump. (Elaine Chao is higher up the list but wasn’t born in the US and so isn’t eligible) ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8502 "2017-07-23T19:08:19Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > While pondering a great debates thread about how the world would look if ruled by women I was curious who would be president if all men suddenly up and died. > > Answer: Betsy Devos :eek: > > One of the very few people in government who is actually less qualified to be running the country than Trump. > > (Elaine Chao is higher up the list but wasn’t born in the US and so isn’t eligible) From the opposite side of the aisle: [Cynthia McKinney](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynthia_McKinney). ---
**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8503 "2017-07-23T19:37:10Z")
I think you misunderstood **Buck Godot’s** post. DeVos is actually the first eligible woman in the line of succession and so would be prez if all males disappeared! Mckinney hasn’t been in congress since 2007 and is in line for nothing. mc [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=424) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=426)