# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 428
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8544 "2017-07-25T18:57:26Z")
Just figured I’d take this opportunity, 170 pages later, to give props to the OP. From “clusterfuck in the making” to clusterfuck. Ever the prescient one, OP. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8545 "2017-07-25T19:06:43Z")
Assistant press secretary Michael Short has “resigned”. > **[Anthony Scaramucci plans to dismiss assistant press secretary Michael Short:...](https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/25/anthony-scaramucci-plans-to-dismiss-assistant-pres/)** > > Newly named White House communications director Anthony Scarmucci is already shaking up the White House staff with plans to fire assistant press secretary Michael Short, Politico reported. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8546 "2017-07-25T19:08:13Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Just figured I’d take this opportunity, 170 pages later, to give props to the OP. From “clusterfuck in the making” to clusterfuck. > > Ever the prescient one, OP. I fear this is just the beginning, this cluster has just begun the fuckening process… ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8547 "2017-07-25T19:40:43Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > I’m not sure he got it wrong. Let’s do the math. > > You have the ACA signed on March 23, 2010. So, that gets you nearly 7 years to inauguration day. Then you have the last 6 months of the WTF presidency, which is equivalent to about 10 years. So, giving some rounding errors, 17 years sounds about right. In dog years, after 6 months, Trump is at 3 1/2 years-- almost the end of his first AND ONLY term. YAY! > [@asahi](#): > > Just figured I’d take this opportunity, 170 pages later, to give props to the OP. From “clusterfuck in the making” to clusterfuck. > > Ever the prescient one, OP. Thank you. You’re very kind. I’m sorry to have been so prescient. ☹ When I read about the Boy Scout speech, I started wondering (and I’m interested in others’ opinions) if Trump has gone off the rails in exactly the direction we doomsayers expected. I mean, we knew he would be bad, but is he bad **in the way** we thought he would be? Have there been any surprises? There were those (I was never one) who thought he would eventually settle down and start acting “Presidential,” but not only has that not happened, he’s gotten much worse, to wit, the Boy Scout speech. I’m surprised that he’s such a total boor, klutz, embarrassment in ordinary social situations where most 12-year old boys know how to conduct themselves. FFS, the man can’t shake hands like a grown-up. I’m surprised at how book-learned IGNORANT he is. Frederick Douglass? The French as historic allies?? I’m surprised at the fact that, although he is fixated on _image_, he seems completely unaware that his public persona, displayed EVERY DAY on Twitter, is a tantrum-throwing 2-year old. Also, I absolutely cannot wrap my brain around how much he lies! He seems incapable of speaking a word of truth. Ever. To sum up, he has turned out to be a much worse human being and a much worse President than I ever imagined. However, he has done less damage as President (so far) than a smarter man would have by now, simply because he doesn’t have one molecule of awareness about how government works, and doesn’t care. And because he thrives on chaos, conflict, and infighting, and so constantly sabotages himself. Which goes to the title of the thread-- he has created a clusterfuck of a presidency out of his own colossal stupidity. I guess we’ve found the one thing he’s good at. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8548 "2017-07-25T19:50:44Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#): > > That’s nothing. For the past 32 years, ever since the inauguration, I have been stressing over president trump. Indeed. There hasn’t been a president this bad since the Middle Ages! ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8549 "2017-07-25T19:58:28Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Just figured I’d take this opportunity, 170 pages later, to give props to the OP. From “clusterfuck in the making” to clusterfuck. > > Ever the prescient one, OP. To be fair, predicting this administration would be a clusterfuck is like getting the trifecta on a race where there are only 3 horses, one is lame, and one is dead. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8550 "2017-07-25T19:59:10Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Assistant press secretary Michael Short has “resigned”. > [http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/25/anthony-scaramucci-plans-to-dismiss-assistant-pres/](http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/25/anthony-scaramucci-plans-to-dismiss-assistant-pres/) In related news, Scary Moochy threatens to fire the entire White House staff (what, even the chefs? Is Trump going to have to order take out pizza?) [http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/white-house-purge-‘i’m-going-to-fire-everybody’-says-scaramucci/ar-AAoPjkR?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp](http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/white-house-purge-%E2%80%98i%E2%80%99m-going-to-fire-everybody%E2%80%99-says-scaramucci/ar-AAoPjkR?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp) > [@](#): > > “If they don’t stop leaking, I’m going to put them out on Pennsylvania Avenue — it’s a very clear thing,” he (Scaramucci) said. “You want to sell postcards to the tourists outside the gate or you want to work in the West Wing? What do you want to do? If you want to work in the West Wing, you’ve got to stop leaking.” ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8551 "2017-07-25T20:05:09Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > Can we slow our roll on the whole chain of command talk please? I despise Trump as next as the next person with functioning brain cells, but I’m not seeing Congressional Republicans ever putting country above party enough to actually impeach a Republican President… > > Unless Trump somehow impedes their efforts to give the rich more tax breaks, or takes a hard line against the business interests of Republicans, I can’t envision them growing a spine. If Trump goes, the GOP gets Pence whom they’d probably be much happier with. The down-side is anti-GOP sentiment would grow if they dragged the country through an impeachment fight. The interesting case is where Trump somehow defects to the Democrats, though resignation is MUCH more likely. > [@Catamount](#): > > Exactly. I long for the days of regular Republican stupidity. Even Shrubya’s looking good now and that was a feat I would have though impossible only a year ago. ++ > [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > While pondering a great debates thread about how the world would look if ruled by women I was curious who would be president if all men suddenly up and died. > > Answer: Betsy Devos :eek: > > One of the very few people in government who is actually less qualified to be running the country than Trump. > > (Elaine Chao is higher up the list but wasn’t born in the US and so isn’t eligible) Eeek! (I guess Chao is excluded by 3 U.S. Code § 19 (e).) > [@k9bfriender](#): > > They may just be waiting for the 2 year mark so that pence can get a full 10 years in. As I say, they won’t impeach — they’ll arrange a resignation. > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Trump’s nominee to lead the Department of Justice’s criminal division used to represent a major Russian bank whose owners have ties to Russian President Vladimir Putin. Trump and team have no shame at all. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8552 "2017-07-25T20:06:05Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > In dog years, after 6 months, Trump is at 3 1/2 years-- almost the end of his first AND ONLY term. YAY! > Thank you. You’re very kind. I’m sorry to have been so prescient. ☹ > > When I read about the Boy Scout speech, I started wondering (and I’m interested in others’ opinions) if Trump has gone off the rails in exactly the direction we doomsayers expected. I mean, we knew he would be bad, but is he bad **in the way** we thought he would be? Have there been any surprises? > > There were those (I was never one) who thought he would eventually settle down and start acting “Presidential,” but not only has that not happened, he’s gotten much worse, to wit, the Boy Scout speech. > > I’m surprised that he’s such a total boor, klutz, embarrassment in ordinary social situations where most 12-year old boys know how to conduct themselves. FFS, the man can’t shake hands like a grown-up. I’m surprised at how book-learned IGNORANT he is. Frederick Douglass? The French as historic allies?? I’m surprised at the fact that, although he is fixated on _image_, he seems completely unaware that his public persona, displayed EVERY DAY on Twitter, is a tantrum-throwing 2-year old. Also, I absolutely cannot wrap my brain around how much he lies! He seems incapable of speaking a word of truth. Ever. To sum up, he has turned out to be a much worse human being and a much worse President than I ever imagined. > > However, he has done less damage as President (so far) than a smarter man would have by now, simply because he doesn’t have one molecule of awareness about how government works, and doesn’t care. And because he thrives on chaos, conflict, and infighting, and so constantly sabotages himself. Which goes to the title of the thread-- he has created a clusterfuck of a presidency out of his own colossal stupidity. I guess we’ve found the one thing he’s good at. I admit, I underestimated just how bad he’d be. I kinda suspected he’d be all over the place but the complex, adversarial environment of Washington has brought out the absolute worst in him. I knew he’d be bad, but I was kinda hoping the Republicans wouldn’t enable him to quite this extent. Hell Trump is thrashing Beauregard Sessions like Kunta Kinte and all of Sessions’ former GOP colleagues are just kinda standing around and taking in the spectacle. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8553 "2017-07-25T20:06:45Z")
> [@](#): > > If you want to work in the West Wing, you’ve got to stop leaking.” The Russian hoors in the Roosevelt Room beg to differ. ---
**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8554 "2017-07-25T20:11:32Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > When I read about the Boy Scout speech, I started wondering (and I’m interested in others’ opinions) if Trump has gone off the rails in exactly the direction we doomsayers expected. I mean, we knew he would be bad, but is he bad **in the way** we thought he would be? Have there been any surprises? The only thing for me which stands out is he’s farther gone from his cognitive prime than I realized. Whether that’s beyond his control or more due to sitting in front of the tv, poor diet, lack of sleep and other habits, who knows. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8555 "2017-07-25T20:32:45Z")
There have been no surprises in regard to his behavior. He has acted precisely the same since he’s come to public notice. He is a famous asshole. He revels in it. What the fucking fuck did people think was going to happen? I keep asking this question, to myself and aloud, and effing stymied. I mean, if someone voted for Trump because he hates who they hate, well, whaddayagonnado? I mean, I can wrap my brain around that reasoning but you show me someone who thought, “I’m sure he’ll act more presidential once he’s in,” and I’ll show you a blithering moron. The surprises have been in the specifics of what he has been fucking up. Who knew he’d attack his own AG? Who knew he’d hire Tony “Big Shoulders” Scaramucci out of _Soprano_’s central casting as his communications director? Who knew he’d fire the director of the FBI and try to pass it off as a gesture toward Clinton? It’s not how the asshole acts that surprises; it’s what the asshole does with his assholery never ceases to shock. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8556 "2017-07-25T20:37:52Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > There have been no surprises in regard to his behavior. He has acted precisely the same since he’s come to public notice. He is a famous asshole. He revels in it. What the fucking fuck did people think was going to happen? I keep asking this question, to myself and aloud, and effing stymied. I mean, if someone voted for Trump because he hates who they hate, well, whaddayagonnado? I mean, I can wrap my brain around that reasoning but you show me someone who thought, “I’m sure he’ll act more presidential once he’s in,” and I’ll show you a blithering moron. > > The surprises have been in the specifics of what he has been fucking up. Who knew he’d attack his own AG? Who knew he’d hire Tony “Big Shoulders” Scaramucci out of _Soprano_’s central casting as his communications director? Who knew he’d fire the director of the FBI and try to pass it off as a gesture toward Clinton? It’s not how the asshole acts that surprises; it’s what the asshole does with his assholery never ceases to shock. and that OTHER assholes still support him, no matter WHAT he does. ---
**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8557 "2017-07-25T20:49:59Z")
I can’t wait for his Girl Scout speech. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8558 "2017-07-25T20:50:05Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > and that OTHER assholes still support him, no matter WHAT he does. That’s the part that gets me. Isn’t it OBVIOUS how bad he is? Can’t everyone see it? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8559 "2017-07-25T20:52:58Z")
> [@steatopygia](#): > > I can’t wait for his Girl Scout speech. No speech. He’ll just make cupping motions with his tiny hands. ---
**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8560 "2017-07-25T20:54:46Z")
> [@Frodo](#): > > I fear this is just the beginning, this cluster has just begun the fuckening process… The clusterfuck is getting clusterfucked. It’s like a Moebius strip of clusterfuckery. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8561 "2017-07-25T20:59:04Z")
> [@steatopygia](#): > > I can’t wait for his Girl Scout speech. He’ll probably tell them he’ll be dating some of them in a few years. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8562 "2017-07-25T21:01:24Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > That’s the part that gets me. > > Isn’t it OBVIOUS how bad he is? Can’t everyone see it? The only thing I can figure, is that the assholes that still support him are jealous because if they let their true assholism show, they really would be kicked to the curb. They approve and are living vicariously. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8563 "2017-07-25T21:42:54Z")
> [@steatopygia](#): > > I can’t wait for his Girl Scout speech. The Right wouldn’t tolerate him appearing before the Girl Scouts, they support … abortion. And Muslims. And gay rights. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=427) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=429)