# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8584 "2017-07-26T03:09:33Z")

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[Trump To Put Raytheon Lobbyist In Charge Of Army](http://www.mintpressnews.com/trump-to-put-raytheon-lobbyist-in-charge-of-army/230111/)  
Last Wednesday, it was reported that Donald Trump was moving to nominate Raytheon lobbyist Mark Esper for secretary of the Army. Raytheon is one of the “big five” defense contractors, and the president’s decision comes at a time when concerns are being raised over the idea of defense industry executives being placed in senior positions at the Pentagon.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8585 "2017-07-26T03:11:20Z")

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> [@BigAppleBucky](#):
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> [Trump To Put Raytheon Lobbyist In Charge Of Army](http://www.mintpressnews.com/trump-to-put-raytheon-lobbyist-in-charge-of-army/230111/)  
> Last Wednesday, it was reported that Donald Trump was moving to nominate Raytheon lobbyist Mark Esper for secretary of the Army. Raytheon is one of the “big five” defense contractors, and the president’s decision comes at a time when concerns are being raised over the idea of defense industry executives being placed in senior positions at the Pentagon.

Drain the swamp!

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8586 "2017-07-26T03:23:59Z")

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> [@AnalogSignal](#):
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> Don Jr. can head the DOJ. Ivanka would be the ideal Secratary of State. Keep it in the family.

Actually instead of Don Jr. and Ivanka it should be Guy Fieri heading the DOJ and Andrew Dice Clay would be the ideal Secretary of State.

With all those vacant state department positions (get on it!), a couple very likely candidates come to mind like Vin Deisel, Milo Yiannopoulos, Scotty Baio, Len Dykstra, Lindsay Lohan, Hulk Hogan, Paula Dean, Gene Simmons, Roger Clemens, Gary Busey, Carrot Top…

On PBS Newshour a couple days ago they were discussing and comparing the roles between Huckabee and Scaramuche! Scaramuche! (fandango) when Amy Walter mentioned a most salient point - that the number one PR figure in the WH is of course преЦАРдент Trump, himself.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8587 "2017-07-26T03:30:42Z")

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Wait! Some terrorist loving swine is suggesting that the armament industry and the Pentagon are too closely connected? The Devil you say!

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8588 "2017-07-26T03:32:14Z")

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> [@Eddie The Horrible](#):
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> With all those vacant state department positions (get on it!), a couple very likely candidates come to mind like **Vin Deisel** , Milo Yiannopoulos, Scotty Baio, Len Dykstra, Lindsay Lohan, Hulk Hogan, Paula Dean, Gene Simmons, Roger Clemens, Gary Busey, Carrot Top…

Why you gotta lump Vin Diesel in with that group? Unless I’ve missed something, Vin Diesel is a pretty nice guy. Outside of his screen persona, he seems like a goofy likable guy who loves role playing games. Did I miss a memo? Is he a dick now too? ☹

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8589 "2017-07-26T03:34:45Z")

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> [@Eddie The Horrible](#):
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> …Andrew Dice Clay would be the ideal Secretary of State…

Already slated for Trump Campaign Women’s Outreach.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8590 "2017-07-26T03:37:05Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Wait! Some terrorist loving swine is suggesting that the armament industry and the Pentagon are too closely connected? The Devil you say!

Eisenhower, pfft. More like EisenStalin, amirite?

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8591 "2017-07-26T03:37:34Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Or an [Escher drawing](http://pixdaus.com/files/items/pics/1/64/24164_618d5d8d10b8764d53db5ccd2e980857_large.jpg) of clusterfuckery.

arrgh, leave me out of that

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8592 "2017-07-26T03:54:58Z")

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So here is a thing: I just popped over to [dol.gov](http://dol.gov) to check something out and find a kind of ad-like graphic near the bottom of the page, which contains “$60,000 – the average starting salary of an apprentice”.

Yeah, nothing at all wrong there.

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8593 "2017-07-26T04:06:23Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Drain the swamp!

Swamp the drain.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8594 "2017-07-26T04:56:20Z")

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[Two senators caught on hot mic expressing concern over Traitor Trump’s mental health](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/07/25/senators-on-hot-mic-trump-is-crazy-im-worried/?utm_term=.963961a97ff2)

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8595 "2017-07-26T06:10:13Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> Why you gotta lump Vin Diesel in with that group? Unless I’ve missed something, Vin Diesel is a pretty nice guy. Outside of his screen persona, he seems like a goofy likable guy who loves role playing games. Did I miss a memo? Is he a dick now too? ☹

No, no, let’s get him! One of the open positions is ambassador to Spain: he can make his next Big Explosions movies here. Lots of nifty landscapes to choose from, yes?

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8596 "2017-07-26T06:29:33Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> There is no point at which the Republicans in Congress will start to push back. We might get a few clever quips from Lindsey Graham, and McCain might grimace for the cameras a little. I imagine that’s about it, though.

I dunno, if Trump finally works up the nerve to fire Sessions and try a recess appointment so he can have Mueller fired (assuming McConnell conveniently leaves him the opening), I think he’ll finally manage to get some serious pushback. Or, if he is dumb enough to try to veto the Russia/Iran/N. Korea sanctions bill that takes away his ability to loosen sanctions without congressional review. I know there will be naysayers, but there’s _just no chance_ that the shit doesn’t hit the fan if either of those happen.

At this point, you’ve got to think Pence is just sitting back and licking his chops, trying not to seem too eager, knowing full well the contents of the can of whoopass Trump has been busy prying open.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8597 "2017-07-26T07:53:34Z")

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> [@marshmallow](#):
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> Funny to see Trump throw Sessions of all people under the bus, after all his claims about how much he values loyalty. Subservience is more like it.

My quip on Twitter was: The only reason Trump keeps talking about “loyalty” is because he can’t pronounce “subservience.”

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8598 "2017-07-26T08:56:39Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Assistant press secretary Michael Short has “resigned”.  
> [http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/25/anthony-scaramucci-plans-to-dismiss-assistant-pres/](http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/25/anthony-scaramucci-plans-to-dismiss-assistant-pres/)

_Oompa Loompa doopity doo…_

> [@enipla](#):
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> The only thing I can figure, is that the assholes that still support him are jealous because if they let their true assholism show, they really would be kicked to the curb.
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> They approve and are living vicariously.

I’ve been saying this since long before the election: Trump’s main appeal is to assholes who wish they could get away with being assholes the way Trump does.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8599 "2017-07-26T11:08:34Z")

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[Here’s](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/07/25/senators-on-hot-mic-trump-is-crazy-im-worried/?utm_term=.963961a97ff2) a fun conversation between two republicans who don’t know they are being recorded.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8600 "2017-07-26T11:09:57Z")

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Oh, and as I write this, the CBS morning news is playing a clip from a rally last night where Trump is saying that he can president better than any president except Lincoln.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8601 "2017-07-26T11:54:31Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> Oh, and as I write this, the CBS morning news is playing a clip from a rally last night where Trump is saying that he can president better than any president except Lincoln.

St. Ronald must be spinning in his grave.

Seriously, though, I assume that Loser Donald says this because Lincoln is the only president he’s heard of.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8602 "2017-07-26T11:55:37Z")

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> [@steatopygia](#):
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> I can’t wait for his Girl Scout speech.

He can’t make one – they took out a restraining order against him:

> [@](#):
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> WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—In an extraordinary rebuke of the President of the United States, the Girl Scouts of the U.S.A. have obtained a restraining order against Donald J. Trump.
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> The order, which the Girls Scouts were granted on Monday night, prevents Trump from coming within three hundred feet of any gathering of the Scouts’ organization.
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> Carol Foyler, a Girl Scouts spokesperson, said that while the G.S.U.S.A. sought the restraining order “out of an abundance of caution,” the girls themselves were “in no way, shape or form” afraid of President Trump.
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> “They’re prepared to deal with bobcats and bears,” she said. “They can handle a malignant narcissist.”
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> Trump wasted little time responding to the Girl Scouts’ action, lashing out at the organization in a blistering early-morning tweet storm.

> **[Girl Scouts Obtain Restraining Order Against Trump](https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/girl-scouts-obtain-restraining-order-against-trump)**
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> “They’re prepared to deal with bobcats and bears,” a Girl Scouts spokesperson said. “They can handle a malignant narcissist.”

Just in case no one caught it – and the “humor” in the URL ought to be a tipoff – this is a humor site.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8603 "2017-07-26T12:04:33Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> [Two senators caught on hot mic expressing concern over Traitor Trump’s mental health](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/07/25/senators-on-hot-mic-trump-is-crazy-im-worried/?utm_term=.963961a97ff2)

> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> [Here’s](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/07/25/senators-on-hot-mic-trump-is-crazy-im-worried/?utm_term=.963961a97ff2) a fun conversation between two republicans who don’t know they are being recorded.

This is not two Republicans. Collins is a Republican and Reed is a Democrat:

> [@](#):
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> At the end of a Senate subcommittee hearing on Tuesday morning, someone sitting near Chairman Susan Collins (R-Maine) didn’t switch off a microphone. Collins was recorded discussing the federal budget and President Trump’s lack of familiarity with the details of governing with a colleague — apparently Sen. Jack Reed (R.I.), the ranking Democrat on the Transportation, Housing and Urban Development, and Related Agencies subcommittee…

The “R.I.” after Reed’s name is for Rhode Island.

Trump will say (if he comments at all), that Collins is unattractive herself and he’d never date her, and Reed is a \<scoff\> Democrat and probably in love with Crooked Hillary.

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