# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8624 "2017-07-26T18:28:59Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> This isn’t a great thing to me, as a Canadian. I don’t want Trump getting jealous and, in a fit of pique, slapping tariffs on Canadian goods or something.

We’re ok so long as it isn’t covered on Fox News.

Dammit!

> **[Rolling Stone cover asks why can't Canada PM be US president](https://www.foxnews.com/world/rolling-stone-cover-asks-why-cant-canada-pm-be-us-president)**
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> Rolling Stone magazine has put liberal Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on the cover of its latest issue and asks: "Why Can't He Be Our President?"

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**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8625 "2017-07-26T19:20:51Z")

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> [@voltaire](#):
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> That was just a procedural vote.

Procedural vote, followed by the [Cruzcare](https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=115&session=1&vote=00168) proposal. Even McCain’s hatred of Ted Cruz was not enough to overcome his desire to kill poor people and increase healthcare costs.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8626 "2017-07-26T19:31:23Z")

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Just posted to FB by yours truly. Since San Antonio is the self-styled “Military City”, I’m gonna run with this theme for a day or three…

"The Commander in Chief just fired thousands of military personnel… publicly, via something called “Twitter”.

Has the military ever been so disrespected by its CiC before? Let me know!"

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**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8627 "2017-07-26T19:35:28Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Just posted to FB by yours truly. Since San Antonio is the self-styled “Military City”, I’m gonna run with this theme for a day or three…
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> "The Commander in Chief just fired thousands of military personnel… publicly, via something called “Twitter”.
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> Has the military ever been so disrespected by its CiC before? Let me know!"

so, this is huge. what is it meant to distract us from?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8628 "2017-07-26T19:48:35Z")

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> [@JackieLikesVariety](#):
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> so, this is huge. what is it meant to distract us from?

The lack of progress on Trumpcare.

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8629 "2017-07-26T19:49:59Z")

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8630 "2017-07-26T20:03:14Z")

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> [@Punoqllads](#):
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> Procedural vote, followed by the [Cruzcare](https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=115&session=1&vote=00168) proposal. Even McCain’s hatred of Ted Cruz was not enough to overcome his desire to kill poor people and increase healthcare costs.

I guess we’ll see, but if you listened to his speech at all, it would have been weird for him to vote against debating the issue on the floor, which is what the vote _and his speech was actually about_.

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**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8631 "2017-07-26T20:16:09Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> On a _completely_ unrelated note: I hope Caitlyn Jenner dies in a fucking fire.

Seriously?

> [@Caitlyn Jenner on twitter today](#):
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> There are 15,000 patriotic transgender Americans in the US military fighting for all of us. What happened to your promise to fight for them? (she then included the tweet from the President about fighting for the LGBT community).

I’d really like to know why you would wish death on a transgender woman.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8632 "2017-07-26T20:18:30Z")

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She probably won’t die in a fire; she’ll probably stump for Trump come 2020.

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**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8633 "2017-07-26T20:19:01Z")

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> [@JackieLikesVariety](#):
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> so, this is huge. what is it meant to distract us from?

His Russian connections. All of this–the tweets, healthcare, all of it–is meant to distract us from the fact he’s going to get caught for his shady dealings.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8634 "2017-07-26T20:19:59Z")

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> [@JackieLikesVariety](#):
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> so, this is huge. what is it meant to distract us from?

Russia, Russian collusion, Russian mob money laundering, crooked real estate deals with Russia (to hide the money laundering), using public office for personal profit (probably tied to Russia), and treason (for the benefit of Russia)???

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8635 "2017-07-26T20:20:13Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> She probably won’t die in a fire; she’ll probably stump for Trump come 2020.

^That’s why.

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**Author:** ![Crybaby\_Boobie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crybaby_boobie/32/545_2.png) [@Crybaby\_Boobie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crybaby_Boobie)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8636 "2017-07-26T20:22:16Z")

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This article is terrifying:

> **[Why the Scariest Nuclear Threat May Be Coming from Inside the White House](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/07/department-of-energy-risks-michael-lewis)**
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> Donald Trump’s secretary of energy, Rick Perry, once campaigned to abolish the $30 billion agency that he now runs, which oversees everything from our nuclear arsenal to the electrical grid. The department’s budget is now on the chopping block. But...

EDIT: Regards the DoE under Trump and how unprepared and ignorant they are. It’s very long, but very informative.

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8637 "2017-07-26T20:51:29Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> [Transgender individuals banned from the military.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-u-s-military-wont-allow-transgender-people-serve-capacity-133152235.html)

But Trump waved a rainbow flag that one time.

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**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8638 "2017-07-26T21:00:34Z")

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> [@voltaire](#):
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> I guess we’ll see, but if you listened to his speech at all, it would have been weird for him to vote against debating the issue on the floor, which is what the vote _and his speech was actually about_.

For those who didn’t follow the link, following his vote on initiating debate he voted _for_ the Ted Cruz trainwreck of an amendment. So no, we don’t have to wait and see. We saw last night that he puts party before country. In conclusion, fuck McCain.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8639 "2017-07-26T21:16:21Z")

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> [@marshmallow](#):
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> But Trump waved a rainbow flag that one time.

When? Where? I _want_ that picture! Gimmee!

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**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8640 "2017-07-26T21:40:01Z")

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> [@Crybaby\_Boobie](#):
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> This article is terrifying:
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> [Why the Scariest Nuclear Threat May Be Coming from Inside the White House | Vanity Fair](http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/07/department-of-energy-risks-michael-lewis)
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> EDIT: Regards the DoE under Trump and how unprepared and ignorant they are. It’s very long, but very informative.

This needs more visibility. Absolutely terrifying, and infuriating.

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**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8641 "2017-07-26T21:41:43Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> When? Where? I _want_ that picture! Gimmee!

Ask and ye shall [receive](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-rainbow-flag_us_58177585e4b0390e69d17cc0).

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8642 "2017-07-26T21:57:48Z")

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> [@Crybaby\_Boobie](#):
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> This article is terrifying:
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> [Why the Scariest Nuclear Threat May Be Coming from Inside the White House | Vanity Fair](http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/07/department-of-energy-risks-michael-lewis)
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> EDIT: Regards the DoE under Trump and how unprepared and ignorant they are. It’s very long, but very informative.

Awesome article. Thanks for posting the link. I am sharing it with many others.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8643 "2017-07-26T22:55:00Z")

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> [@Crybaby\_Boobie](#):
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> This article is terrifying:
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> [Why the Scariest Nuclear Threat May Be Coming from Inside the White House | Vanity Fair](http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/07/department-of-energy-risks-michael-lewis)
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> EDIT: Regards the DoE under Trump and how unprepared and ignorant they are. It’s very long, but very informative.

Holy shit. My supervisor resigned last year and I’ve had a hell of a time without her. Fortunately my lack of supervision doesn’t result in losing nuclear weapons. :eek:

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