# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8664 "2017-07-27T12:06:28Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Moochy’s tweet seems to have been pulled.

Thus illustrating that it would be helpful if y’all would quote short things instead of just posting a link.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8665 "2017-07-27T12:11:42Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> …a level of politics that is deadly serious, and basically everyone is and _has to be_ on board with that second level, because if they aren’t, the world is going to explode. And Trump doesn’t recognize that difference, and doesn’t have smart people informing him about that decision…

Trump doesn’t recognize the difference because he is so colossally STUPID, and even if smart people try to inform him, he famously doesn’t take advice from anyone (except possibly Ivanka). Someone should take her aside and brief her on this stuff, as she might be able to get Daddy’s attention.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8666 "2017-07-27T12:18:33Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Trump doesn’t recognize the difference because he is so colossally STUPID, and even if smart people try to inform him, he famously doesn’t take advice from anyone (except possibly Ivanka). Someone should take her aside and brief her on this stuff, as she might be able to get Daddy’s attention.

I don’t know if I’d say he’s stupid, but he’s pathologically narcissistic. He doesn’t believe in experts because experts might make him feel stupid. Having ignorance exposed and being challenged once in a while is something that most emotionally healthy leaders don’t mind - they don’t feel threatened by it. Trump does. Trump has to be the smartest guy in the room, or he feels emotionally endangered. What’s frightening is the extent of his psychological frailty and the depths to which he will go in order to preserve that fragile ‘balance’ in his mind. And it usually involves trying to destroy other people around him, as everyone from Trump’s former contractors to Jeff Sessions now realizes.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8667 "2017-07-27T12:25:41Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> Oh, and as I write this, the CBS morning news is playing a clip from a rally last night where Trump is saying that he can president better than any president except Lincoln.

At least he didn’t say Benjamin Franklin.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8668 "2017-07-27T12:48:35Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> Oh, and as I write this, the CBS morning news is playing a clip from a rally last night where Trump is saying that he can president better than any president except Lincoln.

He can president better than most of those so-called presidents on the dollar bills!

Like Hamilton, and Franklin, and… Salmon P. Chase.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8669 "2017-07-27T12:53:11Z")

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> [@Crybaby\_Boobie](#):
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> This article is terrifying:
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> [Why the Scariest Nuclear Threat May Be Coming from Inside the White House | Vanity Fair](http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/07/department-of-energy-risks-michael-lewis)
> 
> EDIT: Regards the DoE under Trump and how unprepared and ignorant they are. It’s very long, but very informative.

“Wouldn’t you want the guy who grew up wanting to be a weapons scientist?”

Wait. There are people who grow up wanting to be weapons scientists? I know people who wanted to design helicopters, or submarines, but generally the ‘weapons’ part wasn’t quite what excited them about the items in question.

One of my own research grants was from DoE, for research on a subject that even those close to it found incomprehensible back then (it’s considered core chemistry now)… I wonder what’s happening to those now, the requests for assistance investigating something that’s completely ground-breaking. Probably nothing good.

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**Author:** ![Crybaby\_Boobie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crybaby_boobie/32/545_2.png) [@Crybaby\_Boobie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crybaby_Boobie)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8670 "2017-07-27T12:56:45Z")

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Tony Stark?

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8671 "2017-07-27T13:32:36Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Thus illustrating that it would be helpful if y’all would quote short things instead of just posting a link.

[Here is](https://www.vox.com/2017/7/27/16049184/scaramucci-priebus-transcript) a rundown of the events.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8672 "2017-07-27T13:43:00Z")

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Does it seem to anyone else that the job description of “Communications Director” has expanded some with the new hire? It seems odd that the Mooch is threatening to fire any “leakers” in the WH. That seems like that’s something the CoS would handle.

Also seems the Mooch is really taking an interesting approach with the current CoS-- isn’t Reince the guy he answers to?

I smell a yuuuge shakeup in the West Wing. Reince will be gone, Mooch will slide in to essentially run the staff and control the message.

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**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8673 "2017-07-27T13:45:20Z")

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in the future, a mess this bad will simply be called a clustertrump.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8674 "2017-07-27T13:49:56Z")

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> [@JackieLikesVariety](#):
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> in the future, a mess this bad will simply be called a clustertrump.

::golf clap::

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8675 "2017-07-27T14:06:17Z")

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> [@JackieLikesVariety](#):
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> in the future, a mess this bad will simply be called a clustertrump.

We could see the T-word replace the F-word completely.

“Trump you!” “No, trump you, mothertrumper!”

“Trumpin-a, right!”

“Oh baby, trump me harder! Trump me in the kushner!”

“That’s a trump-load of goats you got there mister.”

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8676 "2017-07-27T15:02:21Z")

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> [@Crybaby\_Boobie](#):
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> This article is terrifying:
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> [Why the Scariest Nuclear Threat May Be Coming from Inside the White House | Vanity Fair](http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/07/department-of-energy-risks-michael-lewis)
> 
> EDIT: Regards the DoE under Trump and how unprepared and ignorant they are. It’s very long, but very informative.

> [@](#):
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> They’d eventually, according to former D.O.E. staffers, delete the contact list with the e-mail addresses of all D.O.E.-funded scientists—apparently to make it more difficult for them to communicate with one another. “These people were insane,” says the former D.O.E. staffer. “They weren’t prepared. They didn’t know what they were doing.”

:smack:

> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> …the Mooch …  
> …the Mooch…  
> …Mooch …

I’m really annoyed I share a nickname with this douchebag.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8677 "2017-07-27T15:07:42Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Moochy’s tweet seems to have been pulled.

Not before being [archived](https://web.archive.org/web/20170727024101/twitter.com/Scaramucci/status/890401606893809664).

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**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8678 "2017-07-27T15:11:31Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Trump doesn’t recognize the difference because he is so colossally STUPID, and even if smart people try to inform him, he famously doesn’t take advice from anyone (except possibly Ivanka). Someone should take her aside and brief her on this stuff, as she might be able to get Daddy’s attention.

That assumes that the light in her eyes isn’t coming from the sun shining through the hole in the back of her head. Not an assumption I’m willing to make.

> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> I smell a yuuuge shakeup in the West Wing. Reince will be gone, Mooch will slide in to essentially run the staff and control the message.

And in six months, Moochy will be in front of the “You’re Fired!” squad.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8679 "2017-07-27T15:19:58Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Moochy’s tweet seems to have been pulled.

Nothing ever really disappears from the Internet.

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8680 "2017-07-27T15:49:35Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> :smack:
> 
> I’m really annoyed I share a nickname with this douchebag.

Time to drop the “da”…

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**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8681 "2017-07-27T15:55:41Z")

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Has anybody been following Scott Adams?

He keeps saying that any minute now the Press will decide that Trump is competent, but they don’t like what he’s doing with his competence.

Adams also said that Trump is inches away from total victory.  
He made a gesture with his hand, palm up then closed it like he was grasping something.

He seems like a smart guy, but…he seems determined that Trump is a n-dimensional chess genius whose playing us all for chumps.

I love Dilbert.

But I keep waiting on the phase Adams says is coming where The Press says that Trump is competent.

Do many Trumpco customers think like Adams?  
…waiting for that one moment when their pet theories are proven correct?

[I Tell You Why President Trump is on the Verge of Total Victory](http://blog.dilbert.com/post/163412586896/i-tell-you-why-president-trump-is-on-the-verge-of)

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8682 "2017-07-27T16:19:04Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> I don’t know if I’d say he’s stupid, but he’s pathologically narcissistic. …

He didn’t know Frederick Douglass was dead.  
He didn’t know France has historically been an ally of the USA.  
He didn’t know that Israel is in the Middle East.  
He thinks Obamacare has been in effect for 17 years.  
He’s stupid. AND a pathological narcissist.

> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> [Here is](https://www.vox.com/2017/7/27/16049184/scaramucci-priebus-transcript) a rundown of the events.

😛

> [@Catamount](#):
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> That assumes that the light in her\* eyes isn’t coming from the sun shining through the hole in the back of her head. Not an assumption I’m willing to make.  
> …

- refers to Ivanka.

She can be fed the words to say. Hell, she can go in with a staff-created PowerPoint presentation (under 30 seconds) and say, “Daddy, look at this cool thing I did!”

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8683 "2017-07-27T16:57:27Z")

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> [@PatriotX](#):
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> [I Tell You Why President Trump is on the Verge of Total Victory](http://blog.dilbert.com/post/163412586896/i-tell-you-why-president-trump-is-on-the-verge-of)

I have no interest in watching that, But I’m guessing that he is like the Trumptroopers I know. They have been investing so much in avoiding having to admit they were idiots conned by an idiot, they keep doubling down again on top of their losses every time their “genius” manages to take what seems like it must finally be peak clusterfuck, to a new zenith.

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