# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 435
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8684 "2017-07-27T17:00:01Z")
> [@PatriotX](#): > > Has anybody been following Scott Adams? > > He keeps saying that any minute now the Press will decide that Trump is competent, but they don’t like what he’s doing with his competence. > > Adams also said that Trump is inches away from total victory. Er… what is it Trump is going to win? Adams is a paid shill for Trump, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8685 "2017-07-27T17:01:50Z")
> [@PatriotX](#): > > Has anybody been following Scott Adams? His two hour interview with Sam Harris on the topic of Trump was unhinged. Every single thing that has happened is part of the plan. There is no such thing as a fact, because things can be “emotionally true” and that’s more important. It was two hours long, and if you listen to fifteen minutes that all you need to understand the whole thing. ---
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8686 "2017-07-27T17:09:50Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Er… what is it Trump is going to win? I don’t remember hearing that part. : ) > [@RickJay](#): > > Adams is a paid shill for Trump, anyway. Is he really? Is there any citation for that? ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8687 "2017-07-27T17:15:20Z")
> [@digs](#): > > He can president better than most of those so-called presidents on the dollar bills! > > Like Hamilton, and Franklin, and… Salmon P. Chase. “Chase was the best, before me. But, I’m going to be on the $1,000,000 bill. So I win.” ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8688 "2017-07-27T17:46:18Z")
> [@Crybaby\_Boobie](#): > > This article is terrifying: > > [Why the Scariest Nuclear Threat May Be Coming from Inside the White House | Vanity Fair](http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/07/department-of-energy-risks-michael-lewis) > > EDIT: Regards the DoE under Trump and how unprepared and ignorant they are. It’s very long, but very informative. Due in part to articles like this, it’s been a while since I’ve slept a full night without waking around 4 a.m. and fighting to quell the racing thoughts so I can fall back asleep. Angst, trepidation, and despair are not the best soporifics, it turns out. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8689 "2017-07-27T17:47:24Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > He didn’t know Frederick Douglass was dead. > He didn’t know France has historically been an ally of the USA. > He didn’t know that Israel is in the Middle East. > He thinks Obamacare has been in effect for 17 years. > He’s stupid. AND a pathological narcissist. And health insurance costs $12 a year and you get a great plan when you’re 70 years old. ---
**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8690 "2017-07-27T17:49:39Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#): > > “Chase was the best, before me. But, I’m going to be on the $1,000,000 bill. So I win.” Trump might cause hyperinflation ( like happened in Weimar Republic ) and get his face on a 50 000 000 000 000 dollar banknote. That eradicates poverty too, 'cause everybody’s a millioner. Also people will be tired of winning then… ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8691 "2017-07-27T18:00:32Z")
Interior Secretary Zinke threatened Alaska after its Republican Senators voted against healthcare takeaway: > **[Trump administration threatens retribution against Alaska over Murkowski...](https://www.adn.com/politics/2017/07/26/trump-administration-signals-that-murkowskis-health-care-vote-could-have-energy-repercussions-for-alaska/)** > > On the line: nominations of Alaskans to Interior Department posts, the King Cove road and future Arctic drilling opportunities. So Alaska Senator Lisa Murkowski, as Chairwoman of the Senate Interior Committee, has postponed hearings on Zinke’s appointees > **[Lisa Murkowski’s energy committee delays hearing for Trump administration...](https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/27/lisa-murkowskis-energy-committee-delays-hearing-fo/)** > > Sen. Lisa Murkowski delayed a vote of the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee to confirm several Trump administration appointees on Wednesday, the same day she was criticized by a Cabinet member over her health care vote. ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8692 "2017-07-27T18:08:15Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Interior Secretary Zinke threatened Alaska after its Republican Senators voted against healthcare takeaway: > [Trump administration threatens retribution against Alaska over Murkowski health votes - Anchorage Daily News](https://www.adn.com/politics/2017/07/26/trump-administration-signals-that-murkowskis-health-care-vote-could-have-energy-repercussions-for-alaska/) > > So Alaska Senator Lisa Murkowski, as Chairwoman of the Senate Interior Committee, has postponed hearings on Zinke’s appointees > [http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/27/lisa-murkowskis-energy-committee-delays-hearing-fo/](http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/27/lisa-murkowskis-energy-committee-delays-hearing-fo/) This administration really is a collection of the stupidest, most ignorant people I have ever seen. They would be over their heads as county commissioners or school board members in the rural county I live in. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8693 "2017-07-27T18:12:32Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Due in part to articles like this, it’s been a while since I’ve slept a full night without waking around 4 a.m. and fighting to quell the racing thoughts so I can fall back asleep. Angst, trepidation, and despair are not the best soporifics, it turns out. Looks like I picked the wrong administration to quit drinking! ---
**Author:** ![Crybaby\_Boobie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crybaby_boobie/32/545_2.png) [@Crybaby\_Boobie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crybaby_Boobie)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8694 "2017-07-27T18:13:25Z")
And I have to assume it’s intentional. They are trying to kill government. Except, as the Vanity Fair article shows, there are some really, REALLY, important things the government needs to do. ---
**Author:** ![Uncle\_Jocko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uncle_jocko/32/2932_2.png) [@Uncle\_Jocko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Jocko)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8695 "2017-07-27T18:15:28Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Also seems the Mooch is really taking an interesting approach with the current CoS-- isn’t Reince the guy he answers to? In his introductory press conference/fawnapalooza, Da Mooch seemed to make it pretty clear that even though he wants to work closely with Priebus, he reports directly to Trump. Which, in “The West Wing” universe, would be like Toby reporting directly to Bartlet and going over Leo’s head whenever he wanted. Which is an org chart that just seems baffling to me … not that I expect any kind of “normal” organization from this gang of incompetents. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8696 "2017-07-27T18:16:44Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > Looks like I picked the wrong administration to quit drinking! Surely, you can’t be serious? ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8697 "2017-07-27T18:20:30Z")
> [@PatriotX](#): > > Is he really? > > Is there any citation for that? I can’t prove it. I’m just convinced it’s true; it would explain a lot. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8698 "2017-07-27T18:20:51Z")
> [@Uncle\_Jocko](#): > > In his introductory press conference/fawnapalooza, Da Mooch seemed to make it pretty clear that even though he wants to work closely with Priebus, he reports directly to Trump. > > Which, in “The West Wing” universe, would be like Toby reporting directly to Bartlet and going over Leo’s head whenever he wanted. Which is an org chart that just seems baffling to me … not that I expect any kind of “normal” organization from this gang of incompetents. Probably only a matter of time till the press secretary is a cabinet level post in the Trump admin. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8699 "2017-07-27T18:21:25Z")
> [@Crybaby\_Boobie](#): > > And I have to assume it’s intentional. They are trying to kill government. Except, as the Vanity Fair article shows, there are some really, REALLY, important things the government needs to do. You don’t have to assume it at all. Bannon stated it was his intention to do so, explicitly. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8700 "2017-07-27T18:21:44Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > Surely, you can’t be serious? He is. And don’t call you “Mooch”. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8701 "2017-07-27T18:21:45Z")
> [@Crybaby\_Boobie](#): > > And I have to assume it’s intentional. They are trying to kill government. Except, as the Vanity Fair article shows, there are some really, REALLY, important things the government needs to do. I sent this article to my husband, and then we discussed the recent, pointless health care vote, and he said, ‘‘Huh. This really isn’t about government, is it? It’s about anarchy.’’ The anarchists are running the show now. ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8702 "2017-07-27T18:22:44Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Interior Secretary Zinke threatened Alaska after its Republican Senators voted against healthcare takeaway: > [Trump administration threatens retribution against Alaska over Murkowski health votes - Anchorage Daily News](https://www.adn.com/politics/2017/07/26/trump-administration-signals-that-murkowskis-health-care-vote-could-have-energy-repercussions-for-alaska/) > > So Alaska Senator Lisa Murkowski, as Chairwoman of the Senate Interior Committee, has postponed hearings on Zinke’s appointees > [http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/27/lisa-murkowskis-energy-committee-delays-hearing-fo/](http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/27/lisa-murkowskis-energy-committee-delays-hearing-fo/) The leading word of “So” there in your second paragraph is going to need a cite a lot stronger than a loose implication by the _Washington Times_. (Which is a source you should be weary of, anyway.) ---
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8703 "2017-07-27T18:27:03Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > I can’t prove it. I’m just convinced it’s true; it would explain a lot. Personally, I think he is experimenting with altering his brain chemistry. Seems kinda manic the way some people get when they do that sort of thing. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=434) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=436)