# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8904 "2017-07-30T10:49:34Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Who was it who suggested a new White House position of “handler of the president”? You really should have run with that. Qualifications list would be identical to any other teacher of kindergartners. Good grief. The government of the United States of America is becoming more of a joke every day Trump is in office.

I don’t think it should be just _any_ other teacher of kindergartners, simply due to the heft of the toddler involved. You’d need someone the size of [this one](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099938/).

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8905 "2017-07-30T11:07:42Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> I don’t think it should be just _any_ other teacher of kindergartners, simply due to the heft of the toddler involved. You’d need someone the size of [this one](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099938/).

For a moment there, I thought you would’ve been comparing Trump to [Baby Huey](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_Huey#/media/File:Babyhuey.JPG). Surely you see the resemblance.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8906 "2017-07-30T12:36:56Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> 6 months in and 3 out of those 6 in the picture are out.

Bannon is probably not long for this administration, either. He might survive by playing dead - one report I read (forgot which one) suggested that Bannon is basically trying to regain Trump’s favor by hiding and being so far out of sight that the press basically forgets who he is. Bannon’s sin? Getting too much credit in the press for being Trump’s brain.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8907 "2017-07-30T12:37:34Z")

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Credit?

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8908 "2017-07-30T13:13:01Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Trump threatens to end health care for Congress, their staffers, and voters.  
> [http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-essential-washington-updates-trump-once-again-threatens-to-yank-1501350963-htmlstory.html](http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-essential-washington-updates-trump-once-again-threatens-to-yank-1501350963-htmlstory.html)

I’m not sure I understand how Trump plans to do this. Congress controls the money, right? Is this just another temper tantrum or something he could actually do?

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8909 "2017-07-30T15:55:39Z")

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All of this because the ACA was passed under president Obama. Fucking up everything Obama is his reason for being president. If the ACA was a legacy of the Bush administration, he wouldn’t even be talking about it, much less overflowing his diapers and throwing tantrums.

What a punk piece of shit.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8910 "2017-07-30T16:07:57Z")

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He might have. They need the money saved from the program in order to pay for the tax reform package they want to enact.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8911 "2017-07-30T16:41:11Z")

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> [@Shoeless](#):
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> I’m not sure I understand how Trump plans to do this. Congress controls the money, right? Is this just another temper tantrum or something he could actually do?

Usually when Congress passes major legislation with financial aspects, it gives the President executive discretion in a lot of the funding issues, rather than trying to set in law every single financial decision. I assume that’s what Trump is talking about, using that discretion in ways that will sabotage the programme.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8912 "2017-07-30T16:50:54Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> He might have. They need the money saved from the program in order to pay for the tax reform package they want to enact.

It “reform” the word to use? Seems like “cut” would be more appropriate. Or “tax buggery package”. We do not have to use their bullshit words to describe their bullshit.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8913 "2017-07-30T17:31:00Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Trump threatens to end health care for Congress, their staffers, and voters.  
> [http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-essential-washington-updates-trump-once-again-threatens-to-yank-1501350963-htmlstory.html](http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-essential-washington-updates-trump-once-again-threatens-to-yank-1501350963-htmlstory.html)

So now he’s threatening to punish the _voters_ if Congress doesn’t blow his tiny dick? And the bloody Trump supporters still support him. Idiots.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8914 "2017-07-30T17:34:07Z")

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I watched the Rick & Morty episode with Tiny Rick, who of course, keeps saying “Tiny Rick!” all the time. Now I’m picturing Trump running around repeatedly saying “I’m Tiny Dick!”

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**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8915 "2017-07-30T17:47:20Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> So now he’s threatening to punish the _voters_ if Congress doesn’t blow his tiny dick? And the bloody Trump supporters still support him. Idiots.

If Trumps follows through with his threat for a certain amount of time, his supporters will _feel_ it.

That would make a difference.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8916 "2017-07-30T17:49:10Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Bannon’s sin? Getting too much credit in the press for being Trump’s brain.

[Brain and brain! What is “brain”? It is Controller, is it not?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o7UDpn1mKI)

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8917 "2017-07-30T17:50:59Z")

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> [@PatriotX](#):
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> If Trumps follows through with his threat for a certain amount of time, his supporters will _feel_ it.
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> That would make a difference.

Exactly what I came to post. I hope he fucking does it. It will hurt me, but I’ll weather it. It will disproportionately hurt his dumbass, drooling supporters in a way that nothing else has to date to drive home the point that Fuckwit Tiny Dick doesn’t give a _shit_ about them.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8918 "2017-07-30T17:52:15Z")

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> [@PatriotX](#):
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> If Trumps follows through with his threat for a certain amount of time, his supporters will _feel_ it.
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> That would make a difference.

> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> Exactly what I came to post. I hope he fucking does it. It will hurt me, but I’ll weather it. It will disproportionately hurt his dumbass, drooling supporters in a way that nothing else has to date to drive home the point that Fuckwit Tiny Dick doesn’t give a _shit_ about them.

Not to him. Because they won’t blame him. He’ll say it’s Obama’s fault, Hillary’s (her emails did it!), the Democrats, Putin, Angela Merkel, Priebus, Spicer, CNN, etc.-- his supporters will definitely feel it, and in fact, some of them will probably die, but they will not blame Trump. Trump is never at fault in his eyes or theirs. It’s always someone else’s fault.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8919 "2017-07-30T17:54:03Z")

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> [@PatriotX](#):
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> If Trumps follows through with his threat for a certain amount of time, his supporters will _feel_ it.
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> That would make a difference.

50% of Republicans don’t believe that Donald Trump Jr. met with Russians to discuss the campaign _after_ he admitted it on Twitter.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8920 "2017-07-30T18:11:39Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Not to him. Because they won’t blame him. He’ll say it’s Obama’s fault, Hillary’s (her emails did it!), the Democrats, Putin, Angela Merkel, Priebus, Spicer, CNN, etc.-- his supporters will definitely feel it, and in fact, some of them will probably die, but they will not blame Trump. Trump is never at fault in his eyes or theirs. It’s always someone else’s fault.

I get that there are supporters who will never abandon him no matter how much they may/will suffer from his actions (I can’t bring myself to characterize them as ‘policies’). But they are less than 30% of his supporters, maybe 27% is a figure I’ve seen. The roughly 10% between that number and that of his present supporters is more soft, I think. They’ve gone from ‘strongly support’ to ‘somewhat support.’ And this action on his part would hit people more directly and harder than anything else he’s done to date.

Of course he will try to hang it on Obama. It’s what he always does. That gets harder and harder to do the more time elapses between the end of Obama’s term and the changes in how Obamacare works since his departure. It will be hard for Donnie Two Scoops to distance himself from having pulled the trigger, since he telegraphed his intent to do it on Twitter. Fewer and fewer people are buying his bullshit. It’s painfully slow, but a move like this might hasten things a bit.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8921 "2017-07-30T18:13:34Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> 50% of Republicans don’t believe that Donald Trump Jr. met with Russians to discuss the campaign _after_ he admitted it on Twitter.

This is true. But 50% _do_ believe it. Many of them appear to be in the House and Senate, as evidenced by their support for the sanctions bill. And that’s important, too.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8922 "2017-07-30T19:08:17Z")

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A friend of the Mooch threatened to dig up dirt on Priebus, but then backed down, apparently after Mooch yelled at him (or so he says), but he’s running around making legal threats at reporters.

> **[Scaramucci Friend Threatens To Leak Dirt On 'Unemployed' Reince Priebus](https://www.yahoo.com/news/scaramucci-friend-threatens-leak-dirt-161414917.html)**
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> "Keep pushing this crap & I’ll start dropping oppo on you.”

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/8923 "2017-07-30T20:35:23Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> …And the kick in the pants is that we’ve been half-assing our business for the past few years, while I worked full-time for the health benefits. We’ve been getting our bills down to practically nada, in the hopes we’d be able to make a go of our business eventually. But the thing that had always been concerning us is the healthcare. Well, our business been growing, so this past spring, when they failed at the first repeal attempt, and declared the ACA the “law of the land,” we pulled the trigger and I quit my job. It’s been a stomach-churning roller coaster ever since.
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> If they repeal, or if the Candied Yam stops paying the subsidies, we’ll likely have to walk away from the small business we spent the past 6 years building so I can get another fulltime job. Or risk everything we have by not carrying any insurance. Fuck you Republicans. Pro-business and pro-life, my white ass.

My sympathies and commiserations to both you and to Aspenglow.

More broadly: the Republican’s lizard-brain fear-of-“free-loaders” has drowned any common sense they might once have possessed: economies don’t thrive when people are terrified of health-care bankruptcy. Free markets don’t work when decisions are based on ‘how can I make sure my family has health care?’—instead of on shrewd observation of the marketplace, sound business principles, and innovative ideas.

The GOP is anti-business.

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