# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 456
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9104 "2017-08-01T16:06:33Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > And more calm, decisive and commanding than a barbeque pit filled with rabid wolverines. > > It’s all about where you set the bar. I’d set the bars vertically, about four inches apart. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9105 "2017-08-01T16:09:57Z")
> [@](#): > > Appearing on Fox’s “Hannity” show, the favorite media outlet of the Trump family, Eric Trump said his father is carrying the “whole weight” of the Republican party on his shoulders… > > “But how much weight does he have to carry by himself? How can a party that is doing so much better than the Democrats… Why wouldn’t they embrace this? **My father has the voice of this country. The people of this country love him.** Why wouldn’t they get in line?” he said… 56.1% disapproval rate in the RCP average of polls. The highest in Trump’s presidency so far, and much, much higher than any other president at this point in their term. The whole Trump family is delusional. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9106 "2017-08-01T16:24:13Z")
Dear Eric Trump: I’m a people of this country, and I hate your Dad’s fuckin’ guts. Can’t say as I’m overly fond of you, either. Regards, E\_K ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9107 "2017-08-01T16:25:48Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > I continue to be amazed at how readily Trump’s supporters pin his leadership failures on those he’s supposed to be leading. Republicans won’t fall in line, leakers are the real story, constant turnover is just shaking up the establishment, etc. As the sign on Teh Donald’s desk eloquently puts it: “What’s this buck doing here? I bet Obama left it lying around! Get it the hell off of my desk…” ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9108 "2017-08-01T16:38:20Z")
Rod Wheeler, a private investigator and Fox News contributor, was hired to look into the Seth Rich murder. He was paid by a wealthy Trump supporter who wanted to advance the discredited conspiracy theory that Rich was murdered to silence him because of something he allegedly knew about the DNC email hack. Wheeler provided some information to Fox reporter Malia Zimmerman. Fox then collaborated on the story with the White House, including getting direct edits from President Trump himself, to make sure the story that went out was as advantageous to the White House as possible. Trump himself inserted into the article fabricated quotes that were attributed to Wheeler. Wheeler has sued Fox News for attributing these quotes to him. The lawsuit contains evidence such as text messages, voicemails, and recordings of phone conversations. It’s a solid paper trail. [NPR article](http://www.npr.org/2017/08/01/540783715/lawsuit-alleges-fox-news-and-trump-supporter-created-fake-news-story) [Washington Post timeline of events](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/08/01/a-timeline-of-the-explosive-lawsuit-alleging-a-white-house-link-in-the-seth-rich-conspiracy/?utm_term=.d24cb78c2d7a) The president and a media outlet colluding to plant fake news, to deflect attention from the Trump clusterfuck. Not that I’m surprised it’s happened, just that the evidence is so solid. It’s like the Donald Trump Jr. emails where he admits to meeting with the Russians to get dirt on Clinton. I’m having a hard time wrapping my head around the brazenness and stupidity of memorializing a crooked plot in easily discoverable documentation. > [@voltaire](#): > > I’d set the bars vertically, about four inches apart. Oh, and, ::golf clap:: ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9109 "2017-08-01T16:55:17Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Are you kidding? Imagine Donald Trump cuckolded; his approval rating would be less than 0%. Just like they are trying to say about RussiaGate, this would just be another sinister plot by the Clinton-Obama shadow government to “get” him. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9110 "2017-08-01T16:56:03Z")
More classic projection. Trump working directly with Fox News to push a falsified story, complete with made-up quotes. Trump and co. just assume that EVERYone is as devoid of morals as they are, and EVERYone must be doing the same shady shit. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9111 "2017-08-01T17:01:49Z")
> [@PatriotX](#): > > Adams controls the format and pontificates only on what he chooses. > There’re a number of questions which spring to mind when I check in on him. I like his cartoons, but I obviously don’t agree with his personal views. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9112 "2017-08-01T17:06:19Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > “adoption” means Mr. Putin wants his money back that is currently frozen, and what the hell is is Trump-puppet going to do about that? Right now he is sitting on the sanctions bill that Congress sent for his signature (after voting for it 98 to 2). He’s trying to say he never got it. The receipts and paper trail say different. However what he is most likely trying to do (and what some advisor probably told him because he isn’t smart enough to figure it out himself) is… It becomes law without the president’s signature in 10 days (excluding Sundays) **unless Congress adjourns during this 10-day period in which case the bill dies. If the bill dies because Congress was not in session to receive the vetoed bill, that is called a “pocket veto.”.** He’s hoping he can sneak in a pocket veto while they are away on recess. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9113 "2017-08-01T17:11:39Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > And more calm, decisive and commanding than a barbeque pit filled with rabid wolverines. > > It’s all about where you set the bar. I’d feel safer amongst the wolverines. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9114 "2017-08-01T17:12:39Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Eric “Qusay” Trump delivers [a limp, lame, and blubbery whine](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/eric-trump-i-want-somebody-start-fighting-for-my-father): > > Where did I put my Trump-hand-sized violin? :rolleyes: So the weepy whiney bitch gene runs in the family. You get what you sow, motherfuckers. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9115 "2017-08-01T17:16:26Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Right now he is sitting on the sanctions bill that Congress sent for his signature (after voting for it 98 to 2). He’s trying to say he never got it. The receipts and paper trail say different. > > However what he is most likely trying to do (and what some advisor probably told him because he isn’t smart enough to figure it out himself) is… > It becomes law without the president’s signature in 10 days (excluding Sundays) **unless Congress adjourns during this 10-day period in which case the bill dies. If the bill dies because Congress was not in session to receive the vetoed bill, that is called a “pocket veto.”.** > > He’s hoping he can sneak in a pocket veto while they are away on recess. What keeps him from removing sanctions and other stuff in the bill before it goes into effect? ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9116 "2017-08-01T17:20:22Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > What keeps him from removing sanctions and other stuff in the bill before it goes into effect? That would be tantamount to a line item veto, which has been found to be unconstitutional. I don’t a pocket veto is possible since the Senate never officially adjourns. Pro forma sessions were started to deny recess appointments to Obama, Democrats can do the same by filibustering motions to adjourn. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9117 "2017-08-01T17:23:07Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > That would be tantamount to a line item veto, which has been found to be unconstitutional. > > I don’t a pocket veto is possible since the Senate never officially adjourns. Pro forma sessions were started to deny recess appointments to Obama, Democrats can do the same by filibustering motions to adjourn. I worded that badly, I don’t mean removing stuff from the bill, but removing the sanctions before the bill takes effect. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9118 "2017-08-01T17:36:39Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Right now he is sitting on the sanctions bill that Congress sent for his signature (after voting for it 98 to 2). He’s trying to say he never got it. The receipts and paper trail say different.\ Is he really saying he never got it? :smack: Any cite? Next it will be “Dog ate it”. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9119 "2017-08-01T17:48:17Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Is he really saying he never got it? :smack: Any cite? > > Next it will be “Dog ate it”. “The Obamas’ dogs ate it! Bad or sick dogs!” ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9120 "2017-08-01T17:51:43Z")
[Don’t leave the toddler unsupervised](https://apnews.com/290dfd4f9e364a29ba0e4d7f6e7ad9aa/Kelly-flexes-muscle-his-first-day-on-the-job-at-White-House?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP_Politics): > [@](#): > > Mattis and Kelly also agreed in the earliest weeks of Trump’s presidency that one of them should remain in the United States at all times to keep tabs on the orders rapidly emerging from the White House, according to a person familiar with the discussions. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9121 "2017-08-01T18:14:30Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > More classic projection. Trump working directly with Fox News to push a falsified story, complete with made-up quotes. > > Trump and co. just assume that EVERYone is as devoid of morals as they are, and EVERYone must be doing the same shady shit. Trump said exactly this in the \ interview. In effect, “Politics is dirty and everyone does it.” (I’m having a hard time keeping up with his B.S.) ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9122 "2017-08-01T18:17:02Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Eric “Qusay” Trump delivers [a limp, lame, and blubbery whine](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/eric-trump-i-want-somebody-start-fighting-for-my-father): > > Where did I put my Trump-hand-sized violin? :rolleyes: It kills me that everyone says that The Don is the greatest at everything. Foul shots, spirals a football through a tire, is the “best fighter in the world.” It’s like North Koreans talking about Kim Jung, but without the threat of facing the firing squad. So far. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9123 "2017-08-01T18:35:23Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > The whole Trump family is delusional. Well, the Russians were trying to elect Hilary. If they weren’t, imagine how bigly he would have won the popular vote! > [@SteveG1](#): > > You get what you sow, motherfuckers. To quote the Dead: If you plant ice (as in lacking any clue), you’ll harvest wind. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=455) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=457)