# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 457
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9124 "2017-08-01T18:39:44Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > Well, the Russians were trying to elect Hilary. If they weren’t, imagine how bigly he would have won the popular vote! > > To quote the Dead: If you plant ice (as in lacking any clue), you’ll harvest wind. No, no, even The Donald is saying that it was the Ukrainians who wanted Hillary. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9125 "2017-08-01T18:50:19Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > > [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > > > The tape that would doom Trump would be video of Melania having sex with another man. Or another woman. > > Trump would go nuts. Not sure anyone else would care. Especially if it’s a woman. > [@running\_coach](#): > > > [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > > > The only tape that would doom him is HIM having sex with another man. > > Only if he’s a bottom. > [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Are you kidding? Imagine Donald Trump cuckolded; his approval rating would be less than 0%. Headline: **Melanoma Caught on Tape with Donnie’s Boyfriend** ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9126 "2017-08-01T19:02:42Z")
Lindsey Graham says that Orange Chimp is planning on a preemptive strike against North Korea. > **[Lindsey Graham: Trump is prepared to strike North Korea](https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/lindsey-graham-trump-is-prepared-to-strike-north-korea)** > > Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said Tuesday that President Trump has indicated to him that the administration is prepared to strike North Korea to prevent an attack against the U.S. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9127 "2017-08-01T19:14:44Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Lindsey Graham says that Orange Chimp is planning on a preemptive strike against North Korea. > [http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/lindsey-graham-trump-is-prepared-to-strike-north-korea/article/2630268](http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/lindsey-graham-trump-is-prepared-to-strike-north-korea/article/2630268) Slight quibble. I think “is planning on” has a slightly different connotation from “is prepared to”. Graham said Trump “is prepared to” attack the DPRK if China doesn’t stop the DPRK’s missile program. That is, he’s willing and able. To me, “is planning to” kinda sounds like he’s already decided to go ahead and attack. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9128 "2017-08-01T19:18:18Z")
Parts of Kushner’s comments to his staff about Middle Eastern negotiations include the fact that he clearly doesn’t care to hear the background of the conflict and just wants to bull ahead, even though, as he said, “So, what do we offer that’s unique? I don’t know” > **[Kushner On Middle East Peace: "What Do We Offer That's Unique? I Don't Know."](https://www.wired.com/story/jared-kushner-middle-east/)** > > The White House senior adviser spoke to a group of congressional interns as part of an ongoing, off-the-record summer lecture series. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9129 "2017-08-01T19:24:33Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Parts of Kushner’s comments to his staff about Middle Eastern negotiations include the fact that he clearly doesn’t care to hear the background of the conflict and just wants to bull ahead, even though, as he said, “So, what do we offer that’s unique? I don’t know” > [Jared Kushner Comments on Middle East Peace in Leaked Q&A: "What Do We Offer That's Unique? I Don't Know." | WIRED](https://www.wired.com/story/jared-kushner-middle-east) Why don’t they just put solar panels on the existing walls. Make Palestinians pay for them. Call it mission accomplished. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9130 "2017-08-01T19:27:29Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Parts of Kushner’s comments to his staff about Middle Eastern negotiations include the fact that he clearly doesn’t care to hear the background of the conflict and just wants to bull ahead, even though, as he said, “So, what do we offer that’s unique? I don’t know” > [Jared Kushner Comments on Middle East Peace in Leaked Q&A: "What Do We Offer That's Unique? I Don't Know." | WIRED](https://www.wired.com/story/jared-kushner-middle-east) I love the placement of this paragraph “WIRED has obtained a recording of Kushner’s talk, which lasted for just under an hour in total.” Right after a quote from Katie Patru decrying recording the session. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9131 "2017-08-01T19:36:31Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > [Don’t leave the toddler unsupervised](https://apnews.com/290dfd4f9e364a29ba0e4d7f6e7ad9aa/Kelly-flexes-muscle-his-first-day-on-the-job-at-White-House?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP_Politics): I was drawn to this tidbit: > [@](#): > > From now on, said White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders, all senior staffers — including the president’s son-in-law Jared Kushner and chief strategist Steve Bannon — will report to Kelly instead of the president. Uh-huh. We’ll see how long that lasts…and if Kelly can enforce it (or make Trump enforce it). ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9132 "2017-08-01T19:42:45Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Lindsey Graham says that Orange Chimp is planning on a preemptive strike against North Korea. > [http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/lindsey-graham-trump-is-prepared-to-strike-north-korea/article/2630268](http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/lindsey-graham-trump-is-prepared-to-strike-north-korea/article/2630268) > [@Bayard](#): > > Slight quibble. I think “is planning on” has a slightly different connotation from “is prepared to”. Graham said Trump “is prepared to” attack the DPRK if China doesn’t stop the DPRK’s missile program. That is, he’s willing and able. To me, “is planning to” kinda sounds like he’s already decided to go ahead and attack. Good point Bayard. I think this quote may be the one that gets the most press: > [@](#): > > “If there’s going to be a war to stop him [Kim Jong Un], it will be over there. If thousands die, they’re going to die over there, they’re not going to die here and he’s [Trump] told me that to my face.” While the line may play well in America, I doubt the South Koreans will be real happy with it. Probably something like: 그 멍청한 놈이 뭐라고 했어 !! Because yellow people far away don’t count, it appears (nor the 40,000 American troops in S. Korea…) ---
**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9133 "2017-08-01T20:03:14Z")
During the legal trials that will taking place for the next decade or so, we will continue to hear the two main defenses that the Trump family has trotted out so far. The always popular “Fake News”. Usually followed by the “We’re too stupid to have done that”. Kushner is practicing on his phrasing for the [second one.](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-kushner-trump-campaign-20170801-story.html) ---
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9134 "2017-08-01T20:43:17Z")
I was going to post that Kushner excuse. Not sure how “we were too disorganized to collude with the Russians” would resonate with Trump who I’m pretty sure thought he had the most organized campaign ever. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9135 "2017-08-01T20:53:57Z")
This going to be the Trump administration’s version of, “I vass only following oh-ders”. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9136 "2017-08-01T20:54:40Z")
Yes, well Trump actually thinks that the unemployment rate was 40% under Obama because the statistics were fake, but now the unemployment rate is 4.3% because the statistics are the the most accurate ever. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9137 "2017-08-01T20:56:28Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Dear Eric Trump: > > I’m a people of this country, and I hate your Dad’s fuckin’ guts. > > Can’t say as I’m overly fond of you, either. > > Regards, > > E\_K Can I co-sign that? ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9138 "2017-08-01T21:17:47Z")
> [@](#): > > During the legal trials that will taking place for the next decade or so sweet mother, the expense ☹ ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9139 "2017-08-01T21:21:32Z")
> [@JackieLikesVariety](#): > > sweet mother, the expense ☹ If the orange bastard FINALLY is made to answer for at least ONE thing he’s done in his miserable lying cheating stealing crooked life, I say EXPENSE IS NO OBJECT. Lock him up. Throw away the key. Let him die in prison, marked as a LOSER. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9140 "2017-08-01T21:24:36Z")
> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#): > > …Probably something like: 그 멍청한 놈이 뭐라고 했어 !! … From your lips to god’s ears! Nailed it in one. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9141 "2017-08-01T22:12:21Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Lindsey Graham says that Orange Chimp is planning on a preemptive strike against North Korea. > [http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/lindsey-graham-trump-is-prepared-to-strike-north-korea/article/2630268](http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/lindsey-graham-trump-is-prepared-to-strike-north-korea/article/2630268) > [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#): > > Good point Bayard. I think this quote may be the one that gets the most press: > > > [@](#): > > > > “If there’s going to be a war to stop him [Kim Jong Un], it will be over there. If thousands die, they’re going to die over there, they’re not going to die here and he’s [Trump] told me that to my face.” > > While the line may play well in America, I doubt the South Koreans will be real happy with it. Probably something like: 그 멍청한 놈이 뭐라고 했어 !! > Because yellow people far away don’t count, it appears (nor the 40,000 American troops in S. Korea…) Only Trump would think that adding “war criminal” to his list of violations would be the royal road to getting him out of his current troubles. But, seriously: a preemptive strike on North Korea, which would certainly kill millions of South Korean and Japanese people and leave many areas radioactive, will _not_ be greeted with floral tributes and hosannas by the international community. At the very least it will put Trump on trial at The Hague; at worst it could leave the US economy crippled by the sanctions that would be imposed. Nice for Russia and China, but not so nice for Americans. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9142 "2017-08-01T22:25:13Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Parts of Kushner’s comments to his staff about Middle Eastern negotiations include the fact that he clearly doesn’t care to hear the background of the conflict and just wants to bull ahead, even though, as he said, “So, what do we offer that’s unique? I don’t know” > [Jared Kushner Comments on Middle East Peace in Leaked Q&A: "What Do We Offer That's Unique? I Don't Know." | WIRED](https://www.wired.com/story/jared-kushner-middle-east) Im astounded that, in addition to negotiating Middle East Peace, China Relations, Solving the Opioid Crisis and Restructuring the Government-that Kushner is also tasked with developing and delivering a lecture series for interns. Doesn’t this family know how to delegate ANyTHING? They couldn’t even make Bannon do it? ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9143 "2017-08-01T22:27:51Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > …Kushner is also tasked with developing and delivering a lecture series for interns. Doesn’t this family know how to delegate ANyTHING? They couldn’t even make Bannon do it? Would you let Bannon, or Trump\*, near your interns? \*(Sr, but Jr also…) ETA: Look, mom, no Lewinski joke! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=456) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=458)