# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9144 "2017-08-01T22:53:20Z")

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> [@psychobunny](#):
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> I was going to post that Kushner excuse. Not sure how “we were too disorganized to collude with the Russians” would resonate with Trump who I’m pretty sure thought he had the most organized campaign ever.

I’m pretty sure their defense is any and all possible excuses. “Didn’t need the help” “We couldn’t even if we wanted to” “It never even happened” “It happened but it was normal” “Didn’t know who it was” “It wasn’t who we thought”  
Every possible response has been or will be thrown out there whether true or not, whether contradictory with others or not. Each supporter will choose the one they like and ignore the others.

It’s like his campaign of vague, superlative promises. Or his brain. A coloring book other people have to fill in.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9145 "2017-08-01T23:12:43Z")

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[Trump: Boy Scout head called my speech ‘the greatest’](http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-boy-scout-head-called-my-speech-the-greatest/ar-AApgBFi)

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> Trump denied to The Wall Street Journal that there was any “mixed” reaction to his speech, noting the standing ovations from the crowd. His comments to the Journal were first made public in a transcript of the interview Politico published Tuesday.
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> “And I got a call from the head of the Boy Scouts saying it was the greatest speech that was ever made to them, and they were very thankful,” Trump said. “So there was - there was no mix.”

I have no words.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9146 "2017-08-01T23:29:01Z")

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So either the head of the Boy Scouts is a two-faced shithead who would say anything to save face and Trump just threw him under the bus, or Trump is lying through his jowls. Any bets on which? Side bet, do you think Trump gives a shit either way?

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**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9147 "2017-08-01T23:38:53Z")

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[China](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/01/world/asia/china-trump-north-korea.html) does not seem too happy.

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> Trump is quite a personality, and he likes to tweet,” said the Xinhua response issued late Monday and widely displayed on Chinese news websites. “But emotional venting cannot become a guiding policy for solving the nuclear issue on the peninsula,” it said, referring to the divided Korean Peninsula.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9148 "2017-08-01T23:47:36Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> Can I co-sign that?

Sure.

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Dear Eric Trump:

We’re people of this country, and we hate your Dad’s fuckin’ guts.

Can’t say as we’re overly fond of you, either.

Regards,

E\_K  
SteveG1

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9149 "2017-08-01T23:47:44Z")

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> [@psychobunny](#):
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> [China](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/01/world/asia/china-trump-north-korea.html) does not seem too happy.

If some lunatic was threatening to start a nuclear war against your vassal state right on your doorstep, would you be happy? I wouldn’t. I can’t stand the Chinese Communist (or whatever they are pretending to be now) government, but in this case I see their point.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2017, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9150 "2017-08-02T00:07:56Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> So either the head of the Boy Scouts is a two-faced shithead who would say anything to save face and Trump just threw him under the bus, or Trump is lying through his jowls. Any bets on which? Side bet, do you think Trump gives a shit either way?

I think it may just be Trumps interpretation and fantasies of his diseased brain. Remember, he’s the BEST. The BEST ever. Of course they loved him, how could it be otherwise?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2017, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9151 "2017-08-02T00:29:03Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Only Trump would think that adding “war criminal” to his list of violations would be the royal road to getting him out of his current troubles.

Have you forgotten that he wants to murder family members of terrorists? War crime is a step down from his already evidenced ambition of crimes against humanity.

> [@](#):
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> But, seriously: a preemptive strike on North Korea, which would certainly kill millions of South Korean and Japanese people and leave many areas radioactive, will _not_ be greeted with floral tributes and hosannas by the international community. At the very least it will put Trump on trial at The Hague; at worst it could leave the US economy crippled by the sanctions that would be imposed.
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> Nice for Russia and China, but not so nice for Americans.

Not even China believes it’ll be good at all for them. Russia? Well, Putin is more dangerous than Trump and about as insane.

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2017, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9152 "2017-08-02T01:15:37Z")

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Trump thinks the ‘White House is a real dump’: [President Trump thinks the 'White House is a real dump,' report says](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/08/01/trump-thinks-white-house-real-dump/531212001/)

Way to make America great, asshole.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2017, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9153 "2017-08-02T01:24:00Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> [Trump: Boy Scout head called my speech ‘the greatest’](http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-boy-scout-head-called-my-speech-the-greatest/ar-AApgBFi)  
> I have no words.

Boy scouts of America confirm that there was no such call - [Trump lied about it.](http://time.com/4883422/donald-trump-boy-scouts-wall-street-journal-transcript/)

> [@](#):
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> President Donald Trump told the Wall Street Journal that after his controversial speech at the Boy Scouts National Jamboree in West Virginia, the head of the Boy Scouts called him and told him it was “the greatest speech that was ever made to them.” But the organization told TIME they are unaware of any call from national leadership placed to the White House.
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> “The Chief Scout Executive’s message to the Scouting community speaks for itself,” the organization said, referring to a July 27 statement from Michael Surbaugh, the Chief Scout Executive for the Boy Scouts of America, who apologized to anyone in the scouting community who could have been offended or alarmed by the political rhetoric in the speech.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2017, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9154 "2017-08-02T01:26:58Z")

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> [@AnalogSignal](#):
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> Trump thinks the ‘White House is a real dump’: [President Trump thinks the 'White House is a real dump,' report says](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/08/01/trump-thinks-white-house-real-dump/531212001/)
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> Way to make America great, asshole.

Gotta love this -

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> Though Trump may take a lot of “floating mulligans” — ignoring a bad shot, or dropping a new ball without taking a penalty — and though he may have a nasty habit of driving his cart onto greens and tee boxes, Golf writes that no president has ever played the sport better.
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> Trump “clearly loves the game, and even at 71 is easily the best golfer who has ever lived in the White House,” the magazine said.

Sounding more and more like dear leader every fucking minute.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2017, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9155 "2017-08-02T01:42:00Z")

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Can’t wait until Dear Leader Trump gets 5 hole-in-ones in a SINGLE GAME!

And he composes 5 operas.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2017, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9156 "2017-08-02T01:44:04Z")

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He has to invent opera before he does that.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2017, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9157 "2017-08-02T02:07:49Z")

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Donnie Two Scoops is so fucked.

[New Hire by Mueller](http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-lawyer-exclusive-idUSKBN1AH5F9)  
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"Greg Andres started on Tuesday, becoming the 16th lawyer on the team, said Josh Stueve, a spokesman for the special counsel.

Most recently a white-collar criminal defense lawyer with New York law firm Davis Polk & Wardwell, Andres, 50, served at the Justice Department from 2010 to 2012. He was deputy assistant attorney general in the criminal division, **where he oversaw the fraud unit and managed the program that targeted illegal foreign bribery** (emphasis mine)." \*

Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2017, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9158 "2017-08-02T02:12:23Z")

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> [@steveg1](#):
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> if the orange bastard finally is made to answer for at least one thing he’s done in his miserable lying cheating stealing crooked life, i say
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> expense is no object.
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> Lock him up. Throw away the key. Let him die in prison, marked as a loser.

Yeah, LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP! LOCK _THEM_ UP!

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2017, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9159 "2017-08-02T02:33:14Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> Donnie Two Scoops is so fucked.
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> [New Hire by Mueller](http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-lawyer-exclusive-idUSKBN1AH5F9)  
> \*  
> "Greg Andres started on Tuesday, becoming the 16th lawyer on the team, said Josh Stueve, a spokesman for the special counsel.
> 
> Most recently a white-collar criminal defense lawyer with New York law firm Davis Polk & Wardwell, Andres, 50, served at the Justice Department from 2010 to 2012. He was deputy assistant attorney general in the criminal division, **where he oversaw the fraud unit and managed the program that targeted illegal foreign bribery** (emphasis mine)." \*
> 
> Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!

Is there any way to read into the hires that Mueller has made and NOT see it as having a ton of shit on Trump?

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2017, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9160 "2017-08-02T02:40:40Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> [QUOTE=Northern Piper]
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> And let us not forget Berke Breathed, who wrote the definitive account of Mr Trump’s brain being transplanted into Bill the Cat’s skull.

That was Bill Gates.  
[/QUOTE]

Trump, as reported in [the wiki article on Bill the Cat](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_the_Cat):

> [@](#):
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> His brain was replaced with Donald Trump’s (who had been hit with his yacht’s anchor while sunbathing in New York Harbor).

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2017, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9161 "2017-08-02T02:46:35Z")

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The short-fingered vulgarian might well be the greatest golf-player president ever. He certainly gets enough practice in.

He drives a golf cart onto tees and greens = he is lazy, or perhaps too infirm to walk his fat ass across the grass like a man.

“Floating mulligans,” ignores bad shots, drops new balls without a penalty…I don’t do golf. I prefer cribbage, poker, chess, Scrabble, Monopoly. In these games, that kind of thing is referred to as “cheating.”

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2017, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9162 "2017-08-02T02:49:42Z")

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So “Golf” (Golf Magazine) just publicly outed trump as a cheater?

That might be the last straw with my Tightie Rightie relatives, who are upright (and uptight) golfers.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2017, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9163 "2017-08-02T02:50:33Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> Trump, as reported in [the wiki article on Bill the Cat](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_the_Cat):

Yep. Bill the Gates was in Outland.

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