# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 463
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2017, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9244 "2017-08-02T20:52:40Z")
Can’t be bothered to read upthread… has anyone made the point that the clusterfuck has been made, and a new thread should be started? Last week alone, sheesh. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2017, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9245 "2017-08-02T20:52:50Z")
> [@steatopygia](#): > > Trump has no relationship with the truth or facts. Well, of course he has a relationship with them. “Total strangers” is a type of relationship, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2017, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9246 "2017-08-02T21:20:24Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > [Your memory sucks](http://www.gocomics.com/bloomcounty/1989/01/31). Wow, so it does. I was looking all over for that strip. I think I was indeed confusing two different storylines involving BtC. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2017, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9247 "2017-08-02T21:20:46Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Well, of course he has a relationship with them. “Total strangers” is a type of relationship, isn’t it? In much the same way that I’m in shape. Round is a shape, correct? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2017, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9248 "2017-08-02T21:38:26Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > He signed it, even though he said parts of it are unconstitutional and he won’t enforce them. > [https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/02/world/europe/trump-russia-sanctions.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/02/world/europe/trump-russia-sanctions.html) Fuck me, [I was right](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20377205&postcount=8809). The stupid sumbitch literally does not know that he does not have to sign everything presented to him. A real president would veto the bill he disagrees with by sending it back to Congress with an explanation of his disagreement. What we have is a big stupid tantrum-throwing over-aged toddler whining “You can’t make me do it”. Good Lord, how can this get any worse? That question is an exclamation, not a challenge. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2017, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9249 "2017-08-02T21:58:10Z")
> [@Airbeck](#): > > I thought Bannon was busy working on his own? Bannon’s too drunk to find it. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2017, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9250 "2017-08-02T21:59:12Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > His hands are free. L.O.L. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2017, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9251 "2017-08-02T22:00:21Z")
Quinnipiac has him down to 33% approval. Trump’s support base of moron is starting to crack even. > **[Quinnipiac poll: President Trump's job approval sinks to 33%](https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/08/02/donald-trumps-job-approval-drops-33-percent-quinnipiac-poll/533370001/)** > > Per the Quinnipiac Poll, only 33% approve of how Trump is doing his job, compared to 61% who disapprove. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2017, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9252 "2017-08-02T22:01:03Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Fuck me, [I was right](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20377205&postcount=8809). The stupid sumbitch literally does not know that he does not have to sign everything presented to him. A real president would veto the bill he disagrees with by sending it back to Congress with an explanation of his disagreement. What we have is a big stupid tantrum-throwing over-aged toddler whining “You can’t make me do it”. > > Good Lord, how can this get any worse? > > That question is an exclamation, not a challenge. Putin and Tillerson are both now officially, really really very very upset 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2017, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9253 "2017-08-02T22:02:51Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > Can’t be bothered to read upthread… has anyone made the point that the clusterfuck has been made, and a new thread should be started? Last week alone, sheesh. At least twice. To which the response has been, this cf is a work in progress. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2017, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9254 "2017-08-02T22:03:30Z")
> [@wolfman](#): > > Quinnipiac has him down to 33% approval. Trump’s support base of moron is starting to crack even. > > [Donald Trump's job approval drops to 33%: Quinnipiac poll](http://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/08/02/donald-trumps-job-approval-drops-33-percent-quinnipiac-poll/533370001/) He still has about 6 more points of cushion there. [Crazification Factor, aka Keye’s Constant](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Crazification_factor) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2017, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9255 "2017-08-02T22:14:58Z")
> [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](#): > > At least twice. To which the response has been, this cf is a work in progress. Still, with more than a half-million views and closing in on ten thousand replies, can we please pity the poor hamsters and start a **The Trump Administration: An Ever-Changing Clusterfuck** thread? ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2017, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9256 "2017-08-02T22:15:00Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Putin and Tillerson are both now officially, really really very very upset 😃 Well it’s clearly unconstitutional. Anybody with a brain can read between the lines and see the founder’s intent that nothing shall ever infringe on Exxon’s absolute right to make a profit regardless of who it hurts. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2017, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9257 "2017-08-02T22:15:34Z")
Has [Lil’ Donnie](http://www.lildonniecomic.com/) been posted anywhere yet? ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2017, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9258 "2017-08-02T22:32:03Z")
> [@wolfman](#): > > Well it’s clearly unconstitutional. Anybody with a brain can read between the lines and see the founder’s intent that nothing shall ever infringe on Exxon’s absolute right to make a profit regardless of who it hurts. The Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev (probably had to get Putin’s permission first) has just instructed us all on the impropriety of letting Congress have any say in the matter. " … the Trump administration has shown its total weakness by handing over executive power to Congress in the most humiliating way. This changes the power balance in US political circles. …" They thought Trump was THEIR weakling and stooge (he still is). But they thought Congress would just roll over too. Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure they would if it were to their personal advantage. As far as the balance of power within the US is concerned, it’s about fucking time SOMEONE slapped down and humiliated that fat orange shit gibbon son of a bitch. Here’s hoping it becomes a regular thing. Now they need to rub Tillerson’s nose in shit too. He still wants that oil deal, and he is opposing the strengthening of electronic/cyber security because it would offend his Russian masters. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2017, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9259 "2017-08-02T23:01:17Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > The Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev (probably had to get Putin’s permission first) has just instructed us all on the impropriety of letting Congress have any say in the matter. > > " … the Trump administration has shown its total weakness by handing over executive power to Congress in the most humiliating way. This changes the power balance in US political circles. …" > > They thought Trump was THEIR weakling and stooge (he still is). But they thought Congress would just roll over too. > … It’s certainly true that the US Presidency has become a much more powerful office in recent decades; “the Imperial Presidency” is a well-known concept to Americans. But we do still have at least the vestiges of the concept that the three branches of our government are co-equal. That’s as foreign a concept to Russians as is the idea of giving correct answers when in the audience for the game show _Who Wants to be a Millionaire_. > **[Sway](https://books.google.com/books?id=7gejitbXx3MC&pg=PA123&lpg=PA123&dq=audience%2B%22Who%2Bwants%2Bto%2Bbe%2Ba%2Bmillionaire%22%2B%22Russian%22&source=bl&ots=YSnZb7UyrZ&sig=fi9rNqr35nOMNxGFJ222kW3OywU&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiv852y07nVAhUr64MKHfaqBrA4ChDoAQgzMAM#v=onepage&q=audience%20%22Who%20wants%20to%20be%20a%20millionaire%22%20%22Russian%22&f=false)** > > A fascinating journey into the hidden psychological influences that derail our decision-making, Sway will change the way you think about the way you think.Why is it so difficult to sell a plummeting stock or end a doomed relationship? Why do we... > **[Are Game Show Audiences Trustworthy? - Sociological Images](https://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2011/12/26/are-game-show-audiences-trustworthy/)** > > The Society Pages (TSP) is an open-access social science project headquartered in the Department of Sociology at the University of Minnesota ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2017, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9260 "2017-08-02T23:13:12Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Has [Lil’ Donnie](http://www.lildonniecomic.com/) been posted anywhere yet? Excellent, thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2017, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9261 "2017-08-02T23:50:58Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Trump says head of boy scouts called him to call his speech the greatest ever. Boys scouts (and whitehouse) says - never happened. > > Trump says he spoke to the head of apple, and Tim Cook promised to build 3 plants in USA. But then Trump adds this curious little bit: “You’ll have to call him. I mean, maybe he won’t tell you what he tells me, but I believe he will do that.” > > So it’s pretty apparent that Trump never spoke to Cook about this. > > It is clear that what Trump is doing is fantasizing about what he thinks SHOULD have happened. The President of Mexico SHOULD have called him with praise. The leader of the Boy Scouts SHOULD have called his speech the greatest ever. Cook SHOULD have promised to build plants in the USA. Trump has **completely** diverged from reality now, and is living almost entirely in his little ego-driven fantasy world. Have you noticed how he always claims the other guy made the first move? Comey called him and said he wanted to have dinner and talk about keeping his job. And talk about how Paris isnt Paris anymore, I guess. I always thought it was funny that Trump attributed that one to his friend “Jim”. And there’s another more recent example that is totally slipping my mind right now. But I would not be surprised if he made an out of the blue total WTF phone call to Tim Cook and tried to cajole him, alternating between flattery and insults , into bringing jobs to America. And Cook was probably, OK, whatever, lets make America Great Again, got to go now, bye Donald …click. So in his mind Cook called him to tell him he was going to build lots of factories for the purpose of glorifying Donald. Just ask him. He’ll probably lie about it, but just ask him > [@SteveG1](#): > > The Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev (probably had to get Putin’s permission first) has just instructed us all on the impropriety of letting Congress have any say in the matter. > > " … the Trump administration has shown its total weakness by handing over executive power to Congress in the most humiliating way. This changes the power balance in US political circles. …" > > They thought Trump was THEIR weakling and stooge (he still is). But they thought Congress would just roll over too. > > Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure they would if it were to their personal advantage. > > As far as the balance of power within the US is concerned, it’s about fucking time SOMEONE slapped down and humiliated that fat orange shit gibbon son of a bitch. > > Here’s hoping it becomes a regular thing. > > Now they need to rub Tillerson’s nose in shit too. He still wants that oil deal, and he is opposing the strengthening of electronic/cyber security because it would offend his Russian masters. Here’s the link to the entire post, the English translation is on the bottom He’s totally trolling Trump into picking a fight with Congress. And I’m sure Bannon will make sure Trump sees it. It’s hysterical. > **[Log into Facebook](https://m.facebook.com/Dmitry.Medvedev/posts/10154587161801851)** > > Log into Facebook to start sharing and connecting with your friends, family, and people you know. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9262 "2017-08-03T00:04:19Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Did Bill get used for his body twice? Correct. [Trump in _Bloom County_](https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/1*vRmkfooeAghEKD2O3AkZiA.jpeg), Gates in _Outland_. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9263 "2017-08-03T00:07:42Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > Here’s the link to the entire post, the English translation is on the bottom > He’s totally trolling Trump into picking a fight with Congress. And I’m sure Bannon will make sure Trump sees it. It’s hysterical. > > [Дмитрий Медведев](https://m.facebook.com/Dmitry.Medvedev/posts/10154587161801851) Looks like Putin is cutting his puppet loose with a spit in the face, since he can’t do anything useful anymore. I wonder if, in the net few weeks, any interesting docs or pics will find their way into buildings with initials on them [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=462) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=464)