# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 464
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9264 "2017-08-03T01:26:55Z")
> [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](#): > > At least twice. To which the response has been, this cf is a work in progress. Progress. Regress. To-mah-to. To-may-to. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9265 "2017-08-03T01:48:14Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Has [Lil’ Donnie](http://www.lildonniecomic.com/) been posted anywhere yet? What about [Donald Trunk](http://knowyourmeme.com/videos/149646-donald-trump)? ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9266 "2017-08-03T01:58:40Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > What about [Donald Trunk](http://knowyourmeme.com/videos/149646-donald-trump)? If we’re doing links… [http://www.trumpbeatles.com/category/videos/](http://www.trumpbeatles.com/category/videos/) These guys have 8 Beatle song parodies so far. Like “Dating My Daughter” to the tune of Paperback Writer and “Pussy to Grab” to Ticket to Ride. They’re really funny. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9267 "2017-08-03T02:50:36Z")
> [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](#): > > Still, with more than a half-million views and closing in on ten thousand replies, can we please pity the poor hamsters and start a **The Trump Administration: An Ever-Changing Clusterfuck** thread? Or “The Trump Administration: the Clusterfuck Continues” If you go back and reread the first few pages of this thread, I was taken to task, raked over the coals, and chastised with similar analogies for overreaction to DJT and for going overboard. Would that those criticisms had proved true. Would that my hyperventilation had turned out to be a false alarm and that things had eventually settled down into a normal, crappy, somewhat banal, dysfunctional presidency. Sadly, it has turned out to be worse than one imagined back then, and yet, we’re actually getting used to the newsbombs falling on our heads several times a day. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9268 "2017-08-03T02:53:28Z")
> [@wolfman](#): > > Looks like Putin is cutting his puppet loose with a spit in the face, since he can’t do anything useful anymore. I wonder if, in the net few weeks, any interesting docs or pics will find their way into buildings with initials on them My thought - well, fantasy - is this. At some point, Putin has a press conference and spills the beans completely. Names, dates, paper, video and audio. Ends it up with, “so, what are you gonna do? You’re not going to war, you can’t sanction much more, and I’m still in charge in Russia. I’m just sick of this idiot who can’t follow simple instructions, and I don’t like him having his tiny finger on the nuclear button. In other words, Mr. Trump - you’re FIRED!” Highly unlikely, of course - Putin’s too sage a hand at this stuff to give up sources and methods. Still, it’s fun to imagine. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9269 "2017-08-03T03:05:20Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Or “The Trump Administration: the Clusterfuck Continues” > > If you go back and reread the first few pages of this thread, I was taken to task, raked over the coals, and chastised with similar analogies for overreaction to DJT and for going overboard. Would that those criticisms had proved true. Would that my hyperventilation had turned out to be a false alarm and that things had eventually settled down into a normal, crappy, somewhat banal, dysfunctional presidency. Sadly, it has turned out to be worse than one imagined back then, and yet, we’re actually getting used to the newsbombs falling on our heads several times a day. ☹ Actually, i think this thread is good. My criticism of it, way back on the first page, was that it was, at the time, just another thread added to the sixteen or seventeen (i’m not exaggerating) Trump-related threads that you had already started in the month after the election. Your tendency to start a new thread every time you saw some new piece of outrageous information about Trump is what was getting on my tits; this thread actually served a useful purpose if managed to channel your energy a little bit. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9270 "2017-08-03T03:19:56Z")
Sarah the Huckster says the conversation with the President of Mexico happened at the G20 conference. When asked if Trump had lied, she said, “well, it’s a bit harsh to call it a lie.” She also said that maybe the head of the Boy Scouts hadn’t called him, but a lot of Scout leaders did. “What the Orange Chimp meant was …” ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9271 "2017-08-03T03:25:15Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Sarah the Huckster says the conversation with the President of Mexico happened at the G20 conference. When asked if Trump had lied, she said, “well, it’s a bit harsh to call it a lie.” She also said that maybe the head of the Boy Scouts hadn’t called him… But lying is still wrong. Right, Sarah? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9272 "2017-08-03T03:32:59Z")
> [@digs](#): > > But lying is still wrong. Right, Sarah? Not when she saves herself every few seconds. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9273 "2017-08-03T03:37:01Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > Can’t be bothered to read upthread… has anyone made the point that the clusterfuck has been made, and a new thread should be started? Last week alone, sheesh. But it hasn’t been made, this administration shuffles more than a Carnaval parade. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9274 "2017-08-03T03:54:11Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > Is it possible that the President is not lying? > > I mean, is it possible that he actually believes this? That maybe he actually remembers phone calls that did not happen, had conversations with people who were not actually there? I have long believed that he suffers from Alzheimers. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9275 "2017-08-03T03:55:52Z")
> [@digs](#): > > But lying is still wrong. Right, Sarah? ask her if she would accept those kinds of statements from her toddlers… ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9276 "2017-08-03T03:58:44Z")
> [@simster](#): > > ask her if she would accept those kinds of statements from her toddlers… They’re not old enough to understand the religious loopholes. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9277 "2017-08-03T04:09:39Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Fuck me, [I was right](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20377205&postcount=8809). The stupid sumbitch literally does not know that he does not have to sign everything presented to him. A real president would veto the bill he disagrees with by sending it back to Congress with an explanation of his disagreement. What we have is a big stupid tantrum-throwing over-aged toddler whining “You can’t make me do it”. > > Good Lord, how can this get any worse? > > That question is an exclamation, not a challenge. He wouldn’t DARE let his veto be overridden. That would mean he lost. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9278 "2017-08-03T04:56:19Z")
Latest news from the Trump Dump is the proposal to slash legal immigration by half. Yes, that’s “Legal” with an L. On the campaign trail, Trump _ **loved** _ immigrants — nobody except Frederick Douglass and Jesus the Messiah loved immigrants more than Trump … “as long as they enter the country _ **LEGALLY!** _” So what gives? Are our GOP Senators really so xenophobic? Or are they just afraid that, not having grown up on FoxNews, Ann Coulter and Alex Jones, immigrants will, when they become citizens, vote sanely? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9279 "2017-08-03T05:04:24Z")
Those who might happen to disagree with Trump don’t have the guts to stand up to Trump if doing so means upsetting their Trump-worshipping constituents. It’s as simple as that. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9280 "2017-08-03T05:47:00Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > He wouldn’t DARE let his veto be overridden. That would mean he lost. You’re right, and I forgot that Trump’s written veto would require two things: a complete sentence and an ability to actually write. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9281 "2017-08-03T07:00:42Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Sarah the Huckster says the conversation with the President of Mexico happened at the G20 conference. When asked if Trump had lied, she said, “well, it’s a bit harsh to call it a lie.” She also said that maybe the head of the Boy Scouts hadn’t called him, but a lot of Scout leaders did. > > “What the Orange Chimp meant was …” Not to flog a deceased equine, but how exactly would these people call Mr. Trump to begin with? Are we expected to believe he just hands his cell number out to all and sundry and says “ring me anytime”, or do they look up the central White House number and somehow convince the operator to connect them? “Mr. Trump, I have a guy who says he’s the head of the Boy Scouts on the line.” “Sounds legit. Put him through.” I mean, if I could call up the White House and get through that easily, I have a few things I’d like to say… ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9282 "2017-08-03T07:25:24Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Not to flog a deceased equine, but how exactly would these people call Mr. Trump to begin with? Are we expected to believe he just hands his cell number out to all and sundry and says “ring me anytime”, I have no problem seeing this as believable given all the other asinine things Trump’s done. Another option is those folks called him after the twerp had an employee call them saying, "The president wishes to speak with you; please call back before yadayadayada"and the return call is put through after said employee sees the caller ID. The latter suggestion would be sensible, so of course it’s not the way Occupy White House does it. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9283 "2017-08-03T07:44:53Z")
I just assumed that “calls” are how he refers to the congratulatory voices he constantly hears in his head assuring him of his greatness in all things. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=463) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=465)