# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 467
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9324 "2017-08-03T17:38:55Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Umm. He didn’t win New Hampshire. He won the primary. All that runs together in his mind. ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9325 "2017-08-03T17:43:06Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > CNN is now reporting that Medvedev has called Traitor Trump “impotent” for signing the new sanctions bill. Those are fighting words for Chump. (I am curious what his Viagra bill looks like. That would be an interesting document to leak.) Screw CNN, you should definitely read [the full thing on Medvedev’s Facebook page.](https://m.facebook.com/Dmitry.Medvedev/posts/10154587161801851) It strikes me that the Russians are experiencing something very similar to the buyer’s remorse that investors in various Trump properties experienced when they realized it was just some overhyped licensing deal with the Trump brand name on it. ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9326 "2017-08-03T17:57:08Z")
> [@voltaire](#): > > Screw CNN, you should definitely read [the full thing on Medvedev’s Facebook page.](https://m.facebook.com/Dmitry.Medvedev/posts/10154587161801851) > > It strikes me that the Russians are experiencing something very similar to the buyer’s remorse that investors in various Trump properties experienced when they realized it was just some overhyped licensing deal with the Trump brand name on it. I don’t think this great businessman has left many satisfied customers (or investors, or any other kind of stakeholder) in his wake. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9327 "2017-08-03T19:14:09Z")
> [@voltaire](#): > > Screw CNN, you should definitely read [the full thing on Medvedev’s Facebook page.](https://m.facebook.com/Dmitry.Medvedev/posts/10154587161801851) Calculated to piss him off in every way possible. Yes, international diplomacy has come to this nowadays. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9328 "2017-08-03T19:14:22Z")
Tillerson is going to let $80 million to fight ISIS and Russian propaganda go without spending it. [Tillerson spurns $80 million to counter ISIS, Russian propaganda - POLITICO](http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/02/tillerson-isis-russia-propaganda-241218)? ---
**Author:** ![Crybaby\_Boobie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crybaby_boobie/32/545_2.png) [@Crybaby\_Boobie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crybaby_Boobie)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9329 "2017-08-03T19:20:28Z")
[http://taskandpurpose.com/trump-afghanistan-war-soldiers-generals/?utm\_source=twitter&utm\_medium=social&utm\_campaign=share&utm\_content=tp-share](http://taskandpurpose.com/trump-afghanistan-war-soldiers-generals/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share&utm_content=tp-share) > [@](#): > > Trump Says He Wants To Hear Afghan War Advice From Rank-And-File Soldiers Instead Of ‘Lousy’ Generals I thought we had the best generals? ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9330 "2017-08-03T19:23:14Z")
Interesting article in a recent Vanity Fair online post, which goes into how utterly unprepared the Trump administration was in handling the transition, going for days without even talking to the massive bureaucracies they had inherited. > **[Why the Scariest Nuclear Threat May Be Coming from Inside the White House](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/07/department-of-energy-risks-michael-lewis)** > > Donald Trump’s secretary of energy, Rick Perry, once campaigned to abolish the $30 billion agency that he now runs, which oversees everything from our nuclear arsenal to the electrical grid. The department’s budget is now on the chopping block. But... Among the agencies affected by the sloppy transition is the Dept of Energy. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9331 "2017-08-03T19:28:08Z")
> [@Crybaby\_Boobie](#): > > [http://taskandpurpose.com/trump-afghanistan-war-soldiers-generals/?utm\_source=twitter&utm\_medium=social&utm\_campaign=share&utm\_content=tp-share](http://taskandpurpose.com/trump-afghanistan-war-soldiers-generals/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share&utm_content=tp-share) > > I thought we had the best generals? He does, but he still knows more than the generals do - believe me. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9332 "2017-08-03T19:28:42Z")
> [@Crybaby\_Boobie](#): > > [http://taskandpurpose.com/trump-afghanistan-war-soldiers-generals/?utm\_source=twitter&utm\_medium=social&utm\_campaign=share&utm\_content=tp-share](http://taskandpurpose.com/trump-afghanistan-war-soldiers-generals/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share&utm_content=tp-share) > > I thought we had the best generals? “His” generals are the best generals. The rest of them are the lousy generals. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9333 "2017-08-03T19:30:35Z")
I think \*his \*generals are General Tso, General Mills and General Malaise About This Whole Administration, junior. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9334 "2017-08-03T19:31:40Z")
> [@Crybaby\_Boobie](#): > > [http://taskandpurpose.com/trump-afghanistan-war-soldiers-generals/?utm\_source=twitter&utm\_medium=social&utm\_campaign=share&utm\_content=tp-share](http://taskandpurpose.com/trump-afghanistan-war-soldiers-generals/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share&utm_content=tp-share) > > I thought we had the best generals? From the link. > [@](#): > > According to an NBC News report, Trump singled out Defense Secretary James Mattis, a retired Marine general, saying he had given Mattis authority to make decisions about the war **months prior** but had seen little progress. > > Trump delegated authority to Mattis to set troop levels in Afghanistan\*\* in June,\*\* though the secretary would need White House permission to send more than 3,900 troops to the war-torn country. > > “We aren’t winning,” Trump said at the **July 19 meeting** , senior administration officials told NBC News. “We are losing.” (Mattis himself told the Senate Armed Services Committee the same in July.) The timeline doesn’t add up. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9335 "2017-08-03T19:46:18Z")
Mueller has impaneled a grand jury to investigate Russian election tampering. > **[Special Counsel Robert Mueller Impanels Washington Grand Jury in Russia Probe](https://www.wsj.com/articles/special-counsel-mueller-impanels-washington-grand-jury-in-russia-probe-1501788287?mod=e2tw)** > > Special Counsel Robert Mueller has impaneled a grand jury in Washington to investigate Russia’s interference in the 2016 elections, a sign that his inquiry is growing in intensity and entering a new phase, according to people familiar with the... ---
**Author:** ![CannyDan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cannydan/32/548_2.png) [@CannyDan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CannyDan)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9336 "2017-08-03T19:50:37Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Mueller has impaneled a grand jury to investigate Russian election tampering. > [https://www.wsj.com/articles/special-counsel-mueller-impanels-washington-grand-jury-in-russia-probe-1501788287?mod=e2tw](https://www.wsj.com/articles/special-counsel-mueller-impanels-washington-grand-jury-in-russia-probe-1501788287?mod=e2tw) Any way around the pay wall (without paying 😃 ) ? ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9337 "2017-08-03T19:51:52Z")
> [@CannyDan](#): > > Any way around the pay wall (without paying 😃 ) ? Here’s Axios: [https://www.axios.com/report-mueller-has-a-grand-jury-2468811876.html?utm\_source=twitter&utm\_medium=twsocialshare&utm\_campaign=organic](https://www.axios.com/report-mueller-has-a-grand-jury-2468811876.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=twsocialshare&utm_campaign=organic) ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9338 "2017-08-03T19:57:13Z")
> [@jack batty](#): > > i think \*his \*generals are general tso, general mills and general malaise about this whole administration, junior. lololol! ---
**Author:** ![CannyDan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cannydan/32/548_2.png) [@CannyDan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CannyDan)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9339 "2017-08-03T19:58:29Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > Here’s Axios: [https://www.axios.com/report-mueller-has-a-grand-jury-2468811876.html?utm\_source=twitter&utm\_medium=twsocialshare&utm\_campaign=organic](https://www.axios.com/report-mueller-has-a-grand-jury-2468811876.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=twsocialshare&utm_campaign=organic) Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9340 "2017-08-03T20:00:21Z")
Meanwhile, someone inside the White House (or who used to be) really, really wants to put out the Trumpster fire… > **[‘This deal will make me look terrible’: Full transcripts of Trump’s calls...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/politics/australia-mexico-transcripts/?utm_term=.b7294f44b3bc)** > > The Post has obtained transcripts of President Donald Trump’s talks with Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto and Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull in January. Reading those transcripts with Nieto and Turnbull made me cringe - made me embarrassed and nauseous actually. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9341 "2017-08-03T20:01:00Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > He doesn’t sweat so much for a fat girl. 🆒 Nailed it! ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9342 "2017-08-03T20:03:24Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Meanwhile, someone inside the White House (or who used to be) really, really wants to put out the Trumpster fire… > > [https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/politics/australia-mexico-transcripts/?utm\_term=.b7294f44b3bc](https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/politics/australia-mexico-transcripts/?utm_term=.b7294f44b3bc) > > Reading those transcripts with Nieto and Turnbull made me cringe - made me embarrassed and nauseous actually. The Nieto one is bad. The Turnbull one actually had me cringing for Trump. That takes something. ---
**Author:** ![Crybaby\_Boobie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crybaby_boobie/32/545_2.png) [@Crybaby\_Boobie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crybaby_Boobie)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9343 "2017-08-03T20:05:26Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > Here’s Axios: [https://www.axios.com/report-mueller-has-a-grand-jury-2468811876.html?utm\_source=twitter&utm\_medium=twsocialshare&utm\_campaign=organic](https://www.axios.com/report-mueller-has-a-grand-jury-2468811876.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=twsocialshare&utm_campaign=organic) Enjoy your vacation, Donny! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=466) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=468)