# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 468
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9344 "2017-08-03T20:06:19Z")
“I am the world’s greatest person that does not want to let people into the country.” Who talks like this? ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9345 "2017-08-03T20:13:54Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > The Nieto one is bad. The Turnbull one actually had me cringing for Trump. That takes something. The funny thing is that Trump, if he were a more canny politician, could actually have made considerable hay out of the Australia deal. It is, i believe, one area of policy where the US would be fully justified in saying, “We don’t want those refugees.” As an Aussie ex-pat, and an Aussie citizen, i think the way that the Australian government has dealt with the refugee issue has been appalling. Conditions on Nauru and Manus are terrible, and the government has both fuelled and responded to the worst sort of nativist sentiment on the part of some sections of the Australian population. The deal to ship over 1,000 of these people to the United States was nothing more than Australia failing to live up to its humanitarian obligations. If Trump had understood this issue, i believe he could actually have dealt with it in a way that would both keep his support among his anti-immigrant base, while also not alienating further the people who oppose his tough border rhetoric. He should have made clear to Australia that dealing with these refugees was Australia’s responsibility, and that the United states was not going to take on a whole bunch of people from the other side of the world just because a wealthy and sparsely-populated nation couldn’t be bothered dealing with them. Keeping them out would have played to his base, and emphasizing Australia’s own obligations would have got some support from liberals and lefties like me. I think the United States should do more to help in global humanitarian crises, but i don’t think that it should shoulder the burden alone, and countries like Australia need to do their part. Of course, i also think that Obama should have said the same thing to Turnbull last November, when they were negotiating the deal. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9346 "2017-08-03T20:14:32Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > “I am the world’s greatest person that does not want to let people into the country.” Who talks like this? Trump. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9347 "2017-08-03T20:18:21Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Of course, i also think that Obama should have said the same thing to Turnbull last November, when they were negotiating the deal. Yeah, I am the next-to-furthest thing from an expert on this deal (Trump is the furthest), but it sounds like these people are really being screwed over. Is there any validity in the boat argument? That should probably go in another thread, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9348 "2017-08-03T20:33:31Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > … > > If Trump had understood this issue, … See, any sentence that begins this way, well, you know. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9349 "2017-08-03T20:34:36Z")
> [@voltaire](#): > > It’s sadly amusing how both the leaders of Australia and Mexico find it necessary to explain things to the leader of the US as if he were a five year old. > > Bonus amusement: Trump admitting that Nieto speaks better English than him. The conversation with Turnbull is jaw-dropping. Turnbull is, apparently, a good businessman and smart guy. He starts by giving Trump a gift, shaded advice on how to spin the prioritization of Christian refugees. Throughout, he explains his position clearly and lays out a compelling case. Trump basically refuses to listen- he can’t comprehend the gist of the argument (which is that the refugees in question have been denied entry to Australia in order to shut down the smuggling operation but the refugees themselves are not the problem.) and keeps insisting that the refugees are criminals. And like always, as soon as Trump starts frothing at the mouth he starts blathering about his electoral votes. Turnbull ends the call with the baby firmly but politely before it falls apart. WOW ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9350 "2017-08-03T20:39:49Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > The Nieto one is bad. The Turnbull one actually had me cringing for Trump. That takes something. It’s what happens when Trump goes up against a real businessman, not a pre-screened sycophant. It’s even more cringeworthy because they are so close in outlook, the difference is competency. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9351 "2017-08-03T20:43:51Z")
> [@voltaire](#): > > Screw CNN, you should definitely read [the full thing on Medvedev’s Facebook page.](https://m.facebook.com/Dmitry.Medvedev/posts/10154587161801851) > > It strikes me that the Russians are experiencing something very similar to the buyer’s remorse that investors in various Trump properties experienced when they realized it was just some overhyped licensing deal with the Trump brand name on it. They gave him all that money, plus the White House, and thought they wouldn’t get fucked over? That’s always been the pattern with Trump. You get nothing, you lose your shirt, he gets over, and that’s that. One big grift. The Russians are just the latest suckers. But, the clown car may stop soon (I hope) … **Robert Mueller has impaneled a grand jury in Washington to investigate Russia’s interference in the 2016 elections, a sign that his inquiry is growing in intensity and entering a new phase.** And Congress is already moving to keep Trump from firing any more investigators - ever again. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9352 "2017-08-03T20:54:08Z")
Mooch was apparently having a relationship with Fox news bleater Kimberly Guilfoyle. > **[Why The Mooch Lost His Cool](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/anthony-scaramucci-what-went-wrong_n_59811cc9e4b02b36343ec1da)** > > Anthony Scaramucci tells HuffPost about the highs and lows of his fiery stint at the White House and what that cuss-filled rant was really about. ---
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9353 "2017-08-03T21:09:26Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Mooch was apparently having a relationship with Fox news bleater Kimberly Guilfoyle. > [Why The Mooch Lost His Cool | HuffPost Latest News](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/anthony-scaramucci-what-went-wrong_us_59811cc9e4b02b36343ec1da) “Stone, a friend of Guilfoyle’s, explained that Scaramucci and Guilfoyle `are very close friends but nothing more.' He added, `He is way too short for Kimberly.'” _snicker_ ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9354 "2017-08-03T21:18:16Z")
The poor bastard can’t catch a break can he? I swear, I’m anticipating **Scaramucci Found Hanging In His Closet** any day now. ---
**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9355 "2017-08-03T21:18:47Z")
from [WaPo](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/the-finance-202/2017/08/03/the-finance-202-this-ex-congressman-may-be-trump-s-weirdest-nomination-to-date/5982409730fb045fdaef10da/?utm_term=.e3fdb06e67d6) > [@](#): > > Add this to the growing list of White House headaches: President Trump’s pick to lead the Export-Import Bank is hanging by a fraying thread in the Senate. > > The nominee — former Rep. Scott Garrett (R-N.J.) — faces a buzz saw of bipartisan resistance thanks to his outspoken efforts while in Congress to dismantle the bank he now seeks to lead. and this is my favorite > [@](#): > > Garrett opened a meeting with a number of Senate Democrats on Tuesday by volunteering that he was surprised to have been nominated. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9356 "2017-08-03T21:24:34Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > … **Scaramucci Found Hanging In His Closet** … You know, the meter of that phrase would fit very well into Bohemian Rhapsody. Until now, I’ve just heard his name, followed by “will you do the fandango?” or something like that. But you have the whole phrase right there! ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9357 "2017-08-03T21:47:56Z")
> [@mikecurtis](#): > > from [WaPo](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/the-finance-202/2017/08/03/the-finance-202-this-ex-congressman-may-be-trump-s-weirdest-nomination-to-date/5982409730fb045fdaef10da/?utm_term=.e3fdb06e67d6) > and this is my favorite All he had to do, was say “No I won’t take the job.” ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9358 "2017-08-03T22:08:18Z")
The Secret Service has vacated their command center in Trump Tower due to a lease dispute. You can’t make this stuff up! > **[Secret Service vacates Trump Tower command post in lease dispute with...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/secret-service-vacates-trump-tower-command-post-in-lease-dispute-with-presidents-company/2017/08/03/7338de16-785d-11e7-8f39-eeb7d3a2d304_story.html)** > > Supervisors, standby agents are moved to trailer on the street more than 50 floors below. > [@](#): > > The Secret Service has vacated its command post inside Trump Tower in Manhattan following a dispute between the government and President Trump’s company over the terms of a lease for the space, according to two people familiar with the discussions. > … > But in early July, the post was relocated to a trailer on the sidewalk, more than 50 floors below, a distance that some security experts worry could hamper the agency that protects the president’s home and family. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9359 "2017-08-03T22:09:40Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > The Secret Service has vacated their command center in Trump Tower due to a lease dispute. You can’t make this stuff up! > [https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/secret-service-vacates-trump-tower-command-post-in-lease-dispute-with-presidents-company/2017/08/03/7338de16-785d-11e7-8f39-eeb7d3a2d304\_story.html](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/secret-service-vacates-trump-tower-command-post-in-lease-dispute-with-presidents-company/2017/08/03/7338de16-785d-11e7-8f39-eeb7d3a2d304_story.html) I hope one of them dropped a cherry bomb down the shitter before leaving. ---
**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9360 "2017-08-03T23:17:22Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > I hope one of them dropped a cherry bomb down the shitter before leaving. I hope one of them ate at Chipotle and didn’t flush. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9361 "2017-08-04T00:38:40Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > You know, the meter of that phrase would fit very well into Bohemian Rhapsody. Until now, I’ve just heard his name, followed by “will you do the fandango?” or something like that. But you have the whole phrase right there! You mean the hemp fandango? ---
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9362 "2017-08-04T01:57:52Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > The Secret Service has vacated their command center in Trump Tower due to a lease dispute. You can’t make this stuff up! The Orange Bozo makes the best deals! Double their rent and kick them out if they won’t pay. Besides how can you make private calls to the Russians with the Secret Service so close by? ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9363 "2017-08-04T02:17:29Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > The Secret Service has vacated their command center in Trump Tower due to a lease dispute. You can’t make this stuff up! > [https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/secret-service-vacates-trump-tower-command-post-in-lease-dispute-with-presidents-company/2017/08/03/7338de16-785d-11e7-8f39-eeb7d3a2d304\_story.html](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/secret-service-vacates-trump-tower-command-post-in-lease-dispute-with-presidents-company/2017/08/03/7338de16-785d-11e7-8f39-eeb7d3a2d304_story.html) If they are located outside the building, it’s probably easier for Melania to sneak around with her boyfriend. > **[Weird Facts About Hank Siemers, Melania Trump's Rumored Boyfriend](https://www.yourtango.com/2017304856/who-hank-siemens-facts-details-rumors-photos-melania-trump-boyfriend-affair)** > > Whoa. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=467) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=469)