# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 474
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2017, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9464 "2017-08-05T15:13:34Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > If it says Keebler on the box (and it does), I think Keebler makes Town House crackers. I just remembered I have a box of Town House crackers in the cupboard. Goes to check… And the box says Keebler !!! In your face, insufferable pedants! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2017, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9465 "2017-08-05T15:40:56Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > I’m really sick of this false conclusion, that if someone is supportive of Sessions remaining in his position but hates everything he stands for, it makes them a hypocrite. It’s utter bullshit. > > I loathe Sessions. He is the antithesis of virtually everything I believe. I did not want him as AG. But he is Trump’s pick. Elections have consequences. > > When it was learned that Sessions lied in his confirmation hearing about meeting with Russians, in my opinion, _that_ was when he should have been fired. Trump could have done it then. There was an actual basis for doing it – same as when he reluctantly fired Flynn. But he didn’t, and that was Trump’s choice, too. > > When Trump later started trying to force Sessions to resign and it became clear his actual reason was to try and fire Mueller, well, that’s something different altogether. That’s Trump abusing his power and Sessions resisting the effort. > > I still think Sessions will be scooped up by Mueller when he indicts Sessions for his perjury. But for now, I can support Sessions in his choice to resist Trump’s efforts to dislodge him as AG, continue to despise him as a person and as an AG, and not at all feel like I’m a hypocrite for simultaneously doing both those things. I agree. The main reason I want Sessions to stay (for now) is to block Trump from hirng some stooge who fires Meuller (but Congress is saying “no way”). Sessions was not supposed to recuse himself, he was supposed to fire Meuller and then take the bullet for Trump. The other reason I want him to stay is more simple - just for the spitefulness of it. Sure, Congress is a bunch of lousy stinking hypocrites. Personally hope some of them get caught in the drag net too. But as long as they frustrate the wannabe king dumbshit, they serve a purpose. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2017, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9466 "2017-08-05T15:42:56Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > That’s right, fans, Krauthammer is now one of the Voices of Reason. _Krauthammer_. oh my Gawd. We have arrived on Bizzaro World. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2017, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9467 "2017-08-05T16:37:41Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > oh my Gawd. We have arrived on Bizzaro World. You think that’s bad, I found myself agreeing with _Paul Ryan_ this morning. The discussion was about Sessions’ newfound leaker preoccupation and intimations that he may go after the press more aggressively. Paul Ryan responded something to the effect that the problem is the leakers, not the journalists. I found myself nodding in agreement. Then I took a shower. ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2017, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9468 "2017-08-05T17:01:54Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > I agree. The main reason I want Sessions to stay (for now) is to block Trump from hirng some stooge who fires Meuller (but Congress is saying “no way”). Sessions was not supposed to recuse himself, he was supposed to fire Meuller and then take the bullet for Trump. That’s the thing, Mueller wasn’t even in the picture when Sessions recused himself. It was Comey that was leading the investigations at the time. Which makes it even more shady as fuck that Sessions took an active part in Comey’s firing while supposedly recused on Russia/campaign/election matters. And it also makes it crazy as fuck that Trump blames Sessions for not predicting that he would have to recuse himself in the future so that he could inform Trump of that before accepting the job. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2017, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9469 "2017-08-05T17:04:49Z")
TRUMP: Why didn’t you recuse yourself ahead of time? GRANNY: I didn’t think you’d get caught! ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2017, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9470 "2017-08-05T17:11:57Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > oh my Gawd. We have arrived on Bizzaro World. We’re still waiting for Krauthammer to address his own efforts to create the environment in which this even became conceivable. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2017, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9471 "2017-08-05T17:18:52Z")
Nm duplicate ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2017, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9472 "2017-08-05T17:37:36Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > But does Keebler own the elves? If so, case closed. 😉 Amdt XIII does not say anything about humans, _per se_, so Keebler would be in violation of the law by owning elves. And how does one keeble, anyway? ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2017, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9473 "2017-08-05T17:53:59Z")
> [@voltaire](#): > > That’s the thing, Mueller wasn’t even in the picture when Sessions recused himself. It was Comey that was leading the investigations at the time. Which makes it even more shady as fuck that Sessions took an active part in Comey’s firing while supposedly recused on Russia/campaign/election matters. And it also makes it crazy as fuck that Trump blames Sessions for not predicting that he would have to recuse himself in the future so that he could inform Trump of that before accepting the job. You’re right, it was Comey back then and our favorite little Klansman had already recused himself (but couldn’t resist interfering anyway). That’s when Dump and Sessions hired Rosenberg (or Rosenstein?) whatever…to write the “you’re fired” justification and tried to throw HIM under the bus. But it didn’t work out that way. Rosenberg hired Meuller. Don’t forget too, the Retard In Chief flat out said he fired Comey over “the Russia thing”. But there is a new wrinkle and it’s coming from the great patriots who like to call the rest of us traitors. There are rumblings among the more extreme (or just the more honest?) of them of rebellion and civil war if Trump “gets it”. Go on Twitter and search “ **#civilwar** ”. This is basically a thread for Trump supporters to threaten the country with civil war if Trump goes down in some way, whether it be impeachment, charges via Mueller or what-have-you. **Civil Fucking War.** The Russians and Assange are helping to push it. Finally, “Judge” Jeanine on “Fox & Friends” said there’d be an “uprising” if a Trump family member was indicted… and Resident Dump retweeted it. There’s your patriotic flag waving motherfuckers right there. Making something or other great again. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2017, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9474 "2017-08-05T17:55:36Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > We’re still waiting for Krauthammer to address his own efforts to create the environment in which this even became conceivable. Never happen. Selective amnesia, fake news, vast conspiracy against him, chem trails, whatever. Fuck him and anyone that looks like him. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2017, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9475 "2017-08-05T18:04:16Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > You’re right, it was Comey back then and our favorite little Klansman had already recused himself (but couldn’t resist interfering anyway). That’s when Dump and Sessions hired Rosenberg (or Rosenstein?) whatever…to write the “you’re fired” justification and tried to throw HIM under the bus. But it didn’t work out that way. Rosenberg hired Meuller. Don’t forget too, the Retard In Chief flat out said he fired Comey over “the Russia thing”. > > But there is a new wrinkle and it’s coming from the great patriots who like to call the rest of us traitors. There are rumblings among the more extreme (or just the more honest?) of them of rebellion and civil war if Trump “gets it”. > > Go on Twitter and search “ **#civilwar** ”. It’s hard to believe anyone would lay down their life for this cocksucker. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2017, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9476 "2017-08-05T18:04:30Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Go on Twitter and search “ **#civilwar** ”. > > This is basically a thread for Trump supporters to threaten the country with civil war if Trump goes down in some way, whether it be impeachment, charges via Mueller or what-have-you. > > **Civil Fucking War.** > > The Russians and Assange are helping to push it. > > Finally, “Judge” Jeanine on “Fox & Friends” said there’d be an “uprising” if a Trump family member was indicted… and Resident Dump retweeted it. > > There’s your patriotic flag waving motherfuckers right there. Making something or other great again. I doubt President Pence will have any problem with using force to suppress an armed rebellion. ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2017, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9477 "2017-08-05T18:05:08Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > I can honestly say I’ve never had anything but utter scorn for that racist redneck. **The only job he’s fit for is Head Elf at the Keebler Cracker Factory**. > [@Monty](#): > > (My bolding above.) > > Please tell me you came up with the bolded insult yourself. It’s now one of the few on my “favorite insults” list. > [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > Yes, I came up with it myself. One of my finer moments. Agreed, a fine one but don’t ignore Trevor Noah’s nod to J.K. Rowling’s universe - **“Confederate house elf”** ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2017, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9478 "2017-08-05T18:11:42Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > It’s hard to believe anyone would lay down their life for this cocksucker. Alex Jones talks about it all the time. I wanna shoot him FIRST. Can I? Please can I? Or is it a case of “I’ll fight to the last drop of YOUR blood”? ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2017, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9479 "2017-08-05T18:14:11Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > Agreed, a fine one but don’t ignore Trevor Noah’s nod to J.K. Rowling’s universe - **“Confederate house elf”** Somebody give him a sock or a shirt or something, so he’ll leave when it’s time. Just wait for the right time. I like the idea of Resident Chump steaming that he can’t safely get rid of him. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2017, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9480 "2017-08-05T18:14:16Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > Agreed, a fine one but don’t ignore Trevor Noah’s nod to J.K. Rowling’s universe - **“Confederate house elf”** [In picture form.](https://i.redd.it/vz9plzt8y82z.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2017, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9481 "2017-08-05T19:32:40Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > :insufferable pedant: > Keebler doesn’t make crackers. [Cookies, pie crust and ice cream cones.](https://www.keebler.com/en_US/cookies-and-more.html) > > Keebler does own the Townhouse and Kellogg brands that do make crackers of various sorts. :insufferable pedant: > > 😉 Looks like they’ve removed the elf from the Keebler logo on the cracker boxes, but I well remember the commercials featuring the Keebler elf hawking Club crackers and Town House crackers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cAArkCYLSE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIJb08jTAJg ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2017, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9482 "2017-08-05T19:35:37Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > Agreed, a fine one but don’t ignore Trevor Noah’s nod to J.K. Rowling’s universe - **“Confederate house elf”** I’ve never read Harry Potter and I haven’t watched TDS for months, but synchronicity. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2017, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9483 "2017-08-05T19:40:55Z")
[Keebler Elfin Crackers](https://www.keebler.com/en_US/products/keebler-elfin-crackers-product.html) I’m for putting that crackpot Trump up against the Keebler Elf in a fight to the death. Elves rule! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=473) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=475)