# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 483
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2017, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9644 "2017-08-09T01:46:14Z")
> [@wolfman](#): > > I’m wondering if we could pull off a war that never actually happens between the two deluded maniacs. They can each sit in their respective Towers of Doom watching Anchorbimbos report on how their forces are crushing the enemy. Give them each a big map while guys covered in dinner plate-sized medals pushing around Risk pieces, and a direct line where they can trash talk just like a couple Team Fortress neckbeards. > While the rest of the world goes on like adults. Yes, I’m sure this can be done. We know that Trump only watches selected TV stations. It would be challenging but doable for a slick Hollywood production company to completely fabricate and simultaneously document a war like they did in [Wag the Dog\*](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120885/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_41) with video, news reports, the whole Megillah. The focus would be different from the movie, and the success would rest entirely on the stupidity of the mark (Trump). \*_“After being caught in a scandalous situation days before the election, the president does not seem to have much of a chance of being re-elected. One of his advisers contacts a top Hollywood producer in order to manufacture a war in Albania that the president can heroically end, all through mass media.”_ ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2017, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9645 "2017-08-09T02:05:39Z")
Senator McCain said: > [@](#): > > “I take exception to the president’s words because you got to be sure you can do what you say you’re going to do,” said McCain, the chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee." [http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/345809-mccain-not-sure-trumps-rhetoric-on-north-korea-is-helpful](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/345809-mccain-not-sure-trumps-rhetoric-on-north-korea-is-helpful) I think McCain’s heart was in the right place but I could see Trump interpreting that as some kind of dare and thinking _“Oh yeah, well guess what? I’m president and you’re not, and I’m gonna drop a few Kim Hung One’s fat ass now!”_ ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2017, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9646 "2017-08-09T03:02:43Z")
> [@KCNA](#): > > “In the morning of August 8 the air pirates of Guam again appeared in the sky above South Korea to stage a mad-cap drill simulating an actual war,” the statement reads." Dang, now I want to be an air pirate. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2017, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9647 "2017-08-09T04:38:00Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > That entire interview is amazing: Gorka is doing his Ultra-Belligerently Supercilious act while utterly failing to make a lick of sense. As the hosts said, Trump could choose to say ‘it’s a sad day when a house of worship is attacked’—but won’t, because, you know, it’s _Muslim_ worship. When called on this, Gorka just doubles down on his derisive sneering. > [@"\[huffpo](#): > > ([Trump Adviser Suggests Minnesota Mosque Attack Could Have Been Faked 'By The Left' | HuffPost Latest News](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/sebastian-gorka-trump-minnesota-mosque-attack_us_5989f898e4b0d793738a9e70))"]“There’s a great rule: All initial reports are false,″ Gorka said. “You have to check them and find out who the perpetrators are. We’ve had a series of crimes committed, alleged hate crimes, by right-wing individuals in the last six months, that turned out to actually have been propagated by the left.” Yeah, umm, this is deserving of the strongest pitworthy language possible. I would say _fuck Gorka up the ass sideways with two hedgehogs_, but he would like that too much I suspect. So, instead, I will ask him, “Cite?” ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2017, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9648 "2017-08-09T05:20:27Z")
Well, props to Breitbart, their “there aren’t really any hate crimes” propaganda now has believers at the highest level of government. We are all completely fucked. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2017, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9649 "2017-08-09T06:03:43Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Probably something like [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPMmC0UAnj0) > (I’m surprised on one beat me to it) My first thought was ‘but Trump would be the Martians’. Then I realized the President went on for 2 whole minutes, while the Martians pretended to listen. That’s way outside Donny Boy’s attention span for anything other that doesn’t stroke his ego. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2017, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9650 "2017-08-09T06:09:24Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Yes, I’m sure this can be done. We know that Trump only watches selected TV stations. It would be challenging but doable for a slick Hollywood production company to completely fabricate and simultaneously document a war like they did in [Wag the Dog\*](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120885/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_41) with video, news reports, the whole Megillah. The focus would be different from the movie, and the success would rest entirely on the stupidity of the mark (Trump). > > \*_“After being caught in a scandalous situation days before the election, the president does not seem to have much of a chance of being re-elected. One of his advisers contacts a top Hollywood producer in order to manufacture a war in Albania that the president can heroically end, all through mass media.”_ That film seems to be becoming closer and closer to a documentary daily. If it keeps up, it’ll turn into a eulogy. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2017, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9651 "2017-08-09T07:50:23Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > After finally seeing the movie _Arrival_, I had a nightmarish discussion with my friend about how it would go down if aliens came to Earth with Loser Donald as POTUS. :eek: No doubt he’d start by showing them his electoral map and a photo spread of Ivanka, and then Tweet that he’d gotten a call from the head alien about how it was the best first-contact scenario they’d ever seen. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2017, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9652 "2017-08-09T12:47:12Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Someone will tell him. > > “Did they vote for me?” That’s his assumption. Remember, Trump said he won New Hampshire because it was a “drug infested den.” Trump, in fact, lost New Hampshire. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2017, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9653 "2017-08-09T12:58:39Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > So, instead, I will ask him, “Cite?” Would you like a list of hoax “hate crimes” that were found to be committed by leftists? How many would you like? ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2017, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9654 "2017-08-09T13:05:33Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Would you like a list of hoax “hate crimes” that were found to be committed by leftists? How many would you like? Let’s say 500 in 2016. That would be a little less than 10% of the FBI’s total database. Remember, the line being pushed here is not simply what Gorka said there. It’s not just “there are some fake hate crimes”. It’s that any given hate crime is immediately suspect of being a false flag, or further, that real hate crimes are few and far between compared to false flag hate crimes. That’s the line the alt-right is pushing on this. Check to see how Breitbart covers hate crimes not directed at white men. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2017, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9655 "2017-08-09T13:07:14Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Let’s say 500 in 2016. Sorry, that’s an absurd request for a cite. I can easily give you a dozen… or two dozen. But that won’t convince you, so why bother. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2017, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9656 "2017-08-09T13:08:47Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Sorry, that’s an absurd request for a cite. > > I can easily give you a dozen… or two dozen. But that won’t convince you, so why bother. A dozen or two dozen is easy. I can show you a dozen or two dozen cases of police brutality in the last year. Maybe even 5 dozen. But if the line I’m pushing is that the police exist solely to tyrannize us and should be done away with, I’m obviously going to have to do a hell of a lot better than that, aren’t I? ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2017, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9657 "2017-08-09T13:14:13Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > But if the line I’m pushing is that the police exist solely to tyrannize us and should be done away with, I’m obviously going to have to do a hell of a lot better than that, aren’t I? That’s not what Gorka said. He said two things: 1. his rule of thumb is that initial report is false. That’s a pretty good rule of thumb - initial reports are often wrong. 2. there was a “series” of false hate crime reports. Unless you think that “dozens” is not a “series”, that’s correct. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2017, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9658 "2017-08-09T13:17:51Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > That’s not what Gorka said. He said two things: > > 1. his rule of thumb is that initial report is false. That’s a pretty good rule of thumb - initial reports are often wrong. > 2. there was a “series” of false hate crime reports. Unless you think that “dozens” is not a “series”, that’s correct. Right. And I’m saying, [look at this in the context of what the alt-right has to say about hate crimes](http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2017/01/26/milo-america-problem-fake-hate-crimes/). It’s not just “this hate crime is questionable”. Gorka makes it pretty clear that all hate crimes are questionable, yet Donald Trump has this uncanny way of immediately shooting his mouth off about some of them. The line is that most hate crimes are bogus. [That there is a “growing epidemic” of hate crimes](http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2016/05/02/hate-crime-hoaxes-growing-epidemic/). That it’s all about fake victimhood. And I’m saying that we shouldn’t let him get away with that. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2017, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9659 "2017-08-09T13:56:48Z")
If we saw “measured responses that were delayed until all the facts were in” every time someone Muslim committed a crime I might believe you. In other news Trump will not be taking the recommendation of the commission he formed to study the Opioid Crisis. > **[Trump holds off on declaring opioid crisis a national emergency](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-to-hold-major-briefing-on-opiod-crisis/2017/08/08/8b7cd146-7c2f-11e7-9d08-b79f191668ed_story.html?utm_term=.494739db01f6)** > > The president is reviewing a preliminary report from a commission that recommended the declaration of a national emergency, White House aides said. Instead, our 4 dimensional chess player has come up with his own innovative solution. He will tell young people that “drugs are no good, bad for you in every way.” Problem solved! Why did no one else ever think of that?? Presidenting is easy. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2017, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9660 "2017-08-09T14:05:48Z")
Maybe if he had his wife deliver the “Drugs are bad” message it would work. ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2017, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9661 "2017-08-09T14:18:00Z")
This is your hair. This is your hair on drugs. ---
**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2017, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9662 "2017-08-09T14:22:37Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > Instead, our 4 dimensional chess player has come up with his own innovative solution. I’ve heard this 4-D chess claim many times, and I need finally somebody to clarify it. Does it mean he plays regular 3-D chess, but r-e-a-l-l-y slow ? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2017, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9663 "2017-08-09T14:36:41Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > Maybe if he had his wife deliver the “Drugs are bad” message it would work. Yeah! Lee’s see… what would be a good slogan for her to use? How about, “Just say no”? That will work for sure. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=482) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=484)