# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9824 "2017-08-12T21:11:17Z")

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> [@voltaire](#):
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> It wasn’t an NSC memo and it wasn’t classified. It was simply an internal memo that was distributed to people who had been part of campaign and transition staff.

Don, Jr. can’t be trusted with a _Dick and Jane_ book.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9825 "2017-08-12T21:16:52Z")

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> [@voltaire](#):
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> It wasn’t an NSC memo and it wasn’t classified. It was simply an internal memo that was distributed to people who had been part of campaign and transition staff.

The blog article had a line about why was a NSC staffer sharing a “technical assessment” with an executive of the Trump Org.

I don’t know enough about it, document classification-wise, just that it was nuts.

And besides, Hilary emails! That’s the real treason, here!

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9826 "2017-08-12T21:21:30Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Don, Jr. can’t be trusted with a Dick and Jane book.

There was nothing in the memo to really trust him with, it was just paranoid ranting and conspiracy theories from someone trying to encourage all his fellow boot-lickers to not give up licking boots in the face of resistance.

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9827 "2017-08-12T21:27:14Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> The blog article had a line about why was a NSC staffer sharing a “technical assessment” with an executive of the Trump Org.
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> I don’t know enough about it, document classification-wise, just that it was nuts.
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> And besides, Hilary emails! That’s the real treason, here!

[From here:](http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/08/10/heres-the-memo-that-blew-up-the-nsc/)

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> Higgins, who had worked on the Trump campaign and transition before coming to the NSC, drafted the memo in late May and then circulated the memo to friends from the transition, a number of whom are now in the White House.

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> This 3,500-word memo was written in a personal capacity, according to a source familiar with its drafting. The source described it as a “technical assessment” of the current political situation, and said it was never disseminated from the NSC in any official manner, but shared with personal contacts from the Trump campaign.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9828 "2017-08-13T01:21:27Z")

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I posted this Aug 19, 2016, a year ago almost to the day. That was back in the lost happy days when it seemed impossible for Trump to be elected.

> [@Coming soon: Trump News Network](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coming-soon-trump-news-network/763332/1):
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> From \*The Atlantic \*online-
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> [Introducing The Trump News Channel—Coming in 2017?](http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/08/introducing-the-trump-news-channelcoming-in-2017/496562/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheAtlantic+%28The+Atlantic+-+Master+Feed%29)…

It has happened. Sort of.

Aug 8, 2017. [Trump launches “real” Trump TV news with Kayleigh McEnany](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-launches-real-trump-tv-news-with-kayleigh-mcenany/)

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> A former CNN commentator is now being featured as the host of an mock-TV news report touting President Trump’s successes in what is being dubbed “Trump TV” on his official campaign Facebook page.
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> A post on Mr. Trump’s social media site reads, “Join Kayleigh McEnany as she provides you the news of the week from Trump Tower in New York!” The post went up on Sunday, just one day after McEnany left her role at the cable network.
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> In the minute and a half-long video, McEnany summarizes positive stories for Mr. Trump, including the positive economic data, the awarding of the Medal of Honor to a Vietnam war veteran, his endorsement of a Senate immigration bill named the RAISE act, which would limit the number of legal immigrants allowed into the U.S. primarily through the use of a points-based system.
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> McEnany announced, “President Trump has created more than 1 million new jobs,” noted the low unemployment rate, high consumer confidence and surging stock market and concluded, “President Trump has clearly steered the economy back in the right direction.”
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> As McEnany ends her segment, she signs out, “And that is the real news.”  
> …

Sure it is.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9829 "2017-08-13T05:43:50Z")

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3500 word “memo”? I always felt like “memo” literally meant “not tl;dr”.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9830 "2017-08-13T06:27:33Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> 3500 word “memo”? I always felt like “memo” literally meant “not tl;dr”.

You’re telling me. I didn’t know Trump had 3500 words in his vocabulary.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9831 "2017-08-13T19:38:29Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> You’re telling me. I didn’t know Trump had 3500 words in his vocabulary.

He knows at least 3000 synonyms for “great,” 2999 if you don’t count “bigly.”

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**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9832 "2017-08-13T20:26:51Z")

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I tried to read that. It was incomprehensible. There is NO WAY Trump could have grokked it.

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9833 "2017-08-13T20:45:49Z")

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The 2020 election cycle has officially begun!

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> **President Trump’s reelection campaign releases television ad**
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> WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump’s reelection campaign released its first television advertisement on Sunday, a 30-second spot that attacks Democrats and touts the accomplishments of his first seven months in office.
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> …
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> The new advertisement uses the same video clips, still images and font as one released earlier this year by America First Policies, a political group that is able to secretly raise and spend unlimited sums of money. Trump’s campaign and America First Policies are prohibited by law from coordinating with each other.
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> [Reuters](http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-election-idUSKCN1AT0O9)

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9834 "2017-08-13T23:03:33Z")

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As TPM reports the White House is telling us that Trump did not want to condemn the violence coming from the white supremacists because:

> **[Adviser: Trump Didn’t Want To ‘Dignify’ White Supremacy By Condemning It](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/tom-bossert-trump-white-supremacy-violence-charlottesville)**
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> White House homeland security adviser Tom Bossert on Sunday claimed President Donald Trump's failure to condemn white supremacists after violence broke out at a rally in Charlottesville was because he…

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> Trump Didn’t Want To ‘Dignify’ White Supremacy By Condemning It

:rolleyes:

It follows then that, as the past tweets from Trump show, that Trump then has no problems when he “dignifies” the Islamic terrorists.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2017, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9835 "2017-08-14T00:44:58Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> As TPM reports the White House is telling us that Trump did not want to condemn the violence coming from the white supremacists because:  
> [Adviser: Trump Didn’t Want To ‘Dignify’ White Supremacy By Condemning It - TPM – Talking Points Memo](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/tom-bossert-trump-white-supremacy-violence-charlottesville)
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> > [@](#):
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> > Trump Didn’t Want To ‘Dignify’ White Supremacy By Condemning It
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> :rolleyes:  
> It follows then that, as the past tweets from Trump show, that Trump then has no problems when he “dignifies” the Islamic terrorists.

Yeah, as lame excuses go, that one’s right up there with ‘he fired Comey because Comey was mean to Hillary Clinton.’ Very believable, Donald!

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2017, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9836 "2017-08-14T00:55:01Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> You’re telling me. I didn’t know Trump had 3500 words in his vocabulary.

really it’s only 5 or 6, but they are the best words.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2017, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9837 "2017-08-14T04:01:25Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> You’re telling me. I didn’t know Trump had 3500 words in his vocabulary.

I’m guessing the word count includes articles and auxiliary verbs. Those alone probably account for quite a chunk of the total count.

Damn, I almost came up with a tongue-twister…

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2017, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9838 "2017-08-14T10:12:47Z")

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Things Loser Donald has condemned;

- The media
- The Democratic Party
- The Republican Party
- Congress
- The White House
- Gold Star families
- Iraq war veterans
- POWs
- Fire marshalls
- Rosie O’Donnell
- Meryl Streep
- Nordstrom
- The Boy Scouts
- The Emmy awards

Things Loser Donald has not condemned:

- Russia
- Nazis

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2017, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9839 "2017-08-14T10:24:09Z")

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Donald Trump is easily the most bigoted president since Woodrow Wilson. At least Wilson could claim he was the son of the Confederacy. What’s Fuhrer Trump’s excuse? Oh wait, maybe he was the son of a Klansman?

> **[In 1927, Donald Trump’s father was arrested after a Klan riot in Queens](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/02/28/in-1927-donald-trumps-father-was-arrested-after-a-klan-riot-in-queens/?utm_term=.a97e4b45786a)**
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> On Sunday, Trump declined to disavow the support of white supremacists.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2017, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9840 "2017-08-14T10:32:43Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Donald Trump is easily the most bigoted president since Woodrow Wilson. At least Wilson could claim he was the son of the Confederacy. What’s Fuhrer Trump’s excuse? Oh wait, maybe he was the son of a Klansman?

“Aside from perhaps the great Woodrow Wilson, I could easily be the most racist president in our tremendous history. OK?”

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2017, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9841 "2017-08-14T16:41:23Z")

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And he starts with, “Look at me! Look at what I’ve done! Aren’t I great? Oh, yeah, and that VA thingy…” :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2017, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9842 "2017-08-14T18:14:30Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> “Aside from perhaps the great Woodrow Wilson, I could easily be the most racist president in our tremendous history. OK?”

“… the greatest racist! The bigliest racist! The best racist ever! …” 😃

I think he’s trying to take the title away from Andy Jackson.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2017, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9843 "2017-08-14T19:38:19Z")

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Trump is considering pardon Joe Arpaio

> **[Trump 'seriously considering' a pardon for ex-Sheriff Joe Arpaio](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-seriously-considering-a-pardon-for-ex-sheriff-joe-arpaio)**
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> President Trump may soon issue a pardon for Joe Arpaio, the colorful former Arizona sheriff who was found guilty two weeks ago of criminal contempt for defying a state judge’s order to stop traffic patrols targeting suspected undocumented immigrants.

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