# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2017, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9864 "2017-08-15T15:55:16Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> OK, so in his first 7 months he has threatened to invade Mexico, North Korea, Venezuela, Chicago. Am I missing anybody? Iran?

Of all those mentioned on your list, Iran in some ways is the one that concerns me the most. It’s a relief that nutjob Mike Flynn is gone, but that doesn’t mean Trump has forgotten about the Persians. The situation reminds me of an 8-year old child who’s been told not to take a stick to the hornet’s nest. He seems fascinated by it. Keeps thinking about it. Has the urge to take a swat at it, just to see what would happen.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2017, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9865 "2017-08-15T16:01:26Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Of all those mentioned on your list, Iran in some ways is the one that concerns me the most. It’s a relief that nutjob Mike Flynn is gone, but that doesn’t mean Trump has forgotten about the Persians. The situation reminds me of an 8-year old child who’s been told not to take a stick to the hornet’s nest. He seems fascinated by it. Keeps thinking about it. Has the urge to take a swat at it, just to see what would happen.

According to reports, Iran IS arming up … NOW.

Thanks to stupid Trump.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2017, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9866 "2017-08-15T16:07:30Z")

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[4th CEO leaves Manufacturing Council](https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/15/trump-hits-ceos-who-left-manufacturing-council-as-grandstanders.html)

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> Since Monday, three CEO have stepped down from their advisory roles. Merck’s Ken Frazier did so on Monday morning, followed by Under Armour’s Kevin Plank and Intel’s Brian Krzanich.
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> Shortly after Trump’s tweet Tuesday, Scott Paul, president of the Alliance for American Manufacturing, also said he would drop out of the council. Paul, head of the group that aims to promote American manufacturing, said “it’s the right thing for me to do.”

1 African American, 3 White. Guess which one Trump attacked directly?

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2017, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9867 "2017-08-15T16:08:01Z")

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[The leaders of four minority House caucus groups have written a letter to President Donald Trump calling for the removal of White House staff aides Steve Bannon, Stephen Miller and Sebastian Gorka.](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/minority-groups-in-congress-call-on-trump-to-fire-three-white-house-aides/)

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2017, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9868 "2017-08-15T16:08:45Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> [4th CEO leaves Manufacturing Council](https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/15/trump-hits-ceos-who-left-manufacturing-council-as-grandstanders.html)
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> 1 African American, 3 White. Guess which one Trump attacked directly?

That one’s TOO easy.

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**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2017, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9869 "2017-08-15T16:52:26Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> So the alt-right is demanding the firing of McMaster. Various congressional caucuses are demanding the firing of Bannon, Miller & Gorka.
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> The battle for Trump’s “soul” is on.

nicely put

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2017, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9870 "2017-08-15T17:03:16Z")

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Mooch has joined in with the urging for the dismissal of Bannon.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2017, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9871 "2017-08-15T17:11:50Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> [4th CEO leaves Manufacturing Council](https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/15/trump-hits-ceos-who-left-manufacturing-council-as-grandstanders.html)
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> 1 African American, 3 White. Guess which one Trump attacked directly?

I don’t think it’s quite that easy. Ken Frazier resigned first, Trump twittacked, then the other 3 left. Doesn’t make him any less of a racist, bigoted, scum-sucking, attention-whoring national disaster.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9872 "2017-08-15T17:21:08Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> I don’t think it’s quite that easy. Ken Frazier resigned first, Trump twittacked, then the other 3 left. Doesn’t make him any less of a racist, bigoted, scum-sucking, attention-whoring national disaster.

He jumped on Frazier immediately, it’s been long enough for the others.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2017, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9873 "2017-08-15T17:48:38Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Mooch has joined in with the urging for the dismissal of Bannon.

Did you see [“Mooch”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esK9TkuEQc0) on Stephen Colbert? He actually came across as a decent, affable guy.

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**Post date:** [August 15, 2017, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9874 "2017-08-15T17:53:37Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Did you see [“Mooch”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esK9TkuEQc0) on Stephen Colbert? He actually came across as a decent, affable guy.

Everyone has a off day.

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**Post date:** [August 15, 2017, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9875 "2017-08-15T17:57:14Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Did you see [“Mooch”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esK9TkuEQc0) on Stephen Colbert? He actually came across as a decent, affable guy.

His coke guy must be on vacation.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2017, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9876 "2017-08-15T17:57:15Z")

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> [@JackieLikesVariety](#):
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> nicely put

One could also refer to Trump’s “heart” and “mind” – it’s equally problematic as to whether or not he has any of those 3 human qualities.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2017, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9877 "2017-08-15T18:51:37Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Holy hell, the man just tweeted a picture of a train hitting a CNN reporter, and then deleted it.
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> [x.com](https://twitter.com/KeithOlbermann/status/897443413875937280)

Isn’t deleting his tweets a violation of federal law concerning retaining Presidential documents?

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**Post date:** [August 15, 2017, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9878 "2017-08-15T18:54:46Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> [4th CEO leaves Manufacturing Council](https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/15/trump-hits-ceos-who-left-manufacturing-council-as-grandstanders.html)
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> 1 African American, 3 White. Guess which one Trump attacked directly?

And Trump tweeted that he’s going to get BETTER CEOs on the council.

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**Post date:** [August 15, 2017, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9879 "2017-08-15T18:57:24Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Isn’t deleting his tweets a violation of federal law concerning retaining Presidential documents?

It’s his private account, not the official POTUS account.

I don’t think there’s been a determination if his private account is considered official.

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**Post date:** [August 15, 2017, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9880 "2017-08-15T18:58:53Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> And Trump tweeted that he’s going to get BETTER CEOs on the council.

The \*best \*CEO’s, believe me …

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**Post date:** [August 15, 2017, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9881 "2017-08-15T19:15:47Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> It’s his private account, not the official POTUS account.
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> I don’t think there’s been a determination if his private account is considered official.

But there has been public statement that his account is official. [Sean Spicer: Trump's Tweets Are Official Statements | TIME](http://time.com/4808270/sean-spicer-donald-trump-twitter-statements/)

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**Post date:** [August 15, 2017, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9882 "2017-08-15T19:20:31Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> And Trump tweeted that he’s going to get BETTER CEOs on the council.

Wait! :eek:

Does he mean he picked 2nd rate, sub-par CEOs for his council???

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2017, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/9883 "2017-08-15T19:21:56Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> But there has been public statement that his account is official. [Sean Spicer: Trump's Tweets Are Official Statements | TIME](http://time.com/4808270/sean-spicer-donald-trump-twitter-statements/)

But is it actually official under the records retention law?

I wouldn’t trust Spicer to accurately describe what he’s currently wearing.

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