# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 502
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10024 "2017-08-16T17:23:21Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > [“I think there is blame on both sides.”](https://images.dailykos.com/images/436856/large/BlameBothSides.jpg) OMG, that one hit me hard. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10025 "2017-08-16T17:23:27Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Private property, I can do whatever I want. What a concept. Anyone trespasses, threateningly, police are called and take them away in handcuffs. And all those Nazis protesting the decision of the local elected leaders to remove the Robert E Lee statue were all concerned Charlottesville residents? Yes, it is public property, but what happened to the conservative notion of state/local authority being sacrosanct? Anyway, I don’t think SaneBill’s example is an apples to apples LEGAL comparison to help you understand, rather it’s a “Here’s an example of both-sides-aren’t-equally-at-fault-when-violence occurs.” It was a nice attempt at helping you understand something most human beings already do, but getting anything through your thick Nazi-apologist skull is pointless. Trolls don’t exist to understand or grow as people, they exist to be anonymous assholes on the Internet because they’re weak road apples in real life. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10026 "2017-08-16T17:25:59Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > He just fired his economic councils. By Tweet. > > [x.com](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/897869174323728385) > > It’s like texting her a pre-emptive breakup when you learn your girlfriend found out you were cheating and is _right now_ on her way to get her stuff: “I decided this isn’t working. Can you clean out your things?” Hee. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10027 "2017-08-16T17:31:18Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > He just fired his economic councils. By Tweet. > > [x.com](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/897869174323728385) > > It’s like texting her a pre-emptive breakup when you learn your girlfriend found out you were cheating and is _right now_ on her way to get her stuff: “I decided this isn’t working. Can you clean out your things?” But I thought that there were two CEOs waiting in the wings to replace every grandstander? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10028 "2017-08-16T17:32:33Z")
Rumor on the Street says that the remaining had quit by this morning, so this was done in an effort to stave off the embarrassment of having his CEO team quit on him. That is unconfirmed, however. Sounds unlikely and a little too pat, but that’s what I’m reading. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10029 "2017-08-16T17:33:30Z")
CNN reporting a statement by Carrier (Trump’s poster child) quitting (prior to the disbanding). ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10030 "2017-08-16T17:38:19Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > But I thought that there were two CEOs waiting in the wings to replace every grandstander? He’s going to repeal and replace the CEOs and it’s gonna be great! ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10031 "2017-08-16T17:40:23Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > He’s going to repeal and replace the CEOs and it’s gonna be great! Nobody knew CEOs were so complicated. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10032 "2017-08-16T17:42:53Z")
> [@Crotalus](#): > > Nobody knew CEOs were so complicated. Especially spelling “C-E-O.” That’s so hard. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10033 "2017-08-16T17:47:59Z")
Hannity is going to have to examine the fuck out of Hillary Clinton’s emails tonight. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10034 "2017-08-16T17:51:38Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Private property, I can do whatever I want. What a concept. Anyone trespasses, threateningly, police are called and take them away in handcuffs. Unless you are black or brown or an Australian woman. Then you get shot by the police you called. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10035 "2017-08-16T17:52:25Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > but what happened to the conservative notion of state/local authority being sacrosanct? I am reminded of the story of a young Jewish man in the Soviet Union who felt it necessary to go along to get along, and so joined the Party and tried to advance. However, he hit a stumbling block in that his superiors were not satisfied that he properly believed in dialectical materialism. In desperation and utmost secrecy, he consulted the most clever man he knew: his rabbi. The rabbi said, “I shall explain by a hypothetical example. Aaron and Benjamin climb down a chimney. Aaron comes out dirty; Benjamin comes out clean. Who washes himself?” “Aaron, of course.” “No. Each looks at the other. Aaron sees Benjamin clean and assumes that he himself is clean, while Benjamin looks at Aaron and assumes that he himself is dirty, so Benjamin washes. Now… Aaron and Benjamin climb down a chimney. Aaron comes out dirty; Benjamin comes out clean. Who washes himself?” “You just explained that Benjamin washes himself.” “No. Each looks at his own hands. Aaron sees dirty hands and washes himself; Benjamin sees clean hands and does not wash himself. Now, Aaron and Benjamin climb down a chimney. Aaron comes out dirty; Benjamin comes out clean. Who washes himself?” Frustrated, the young man burst out, “This is ridiculous! You’re just making things up so it comes out the way you want!” The rabbi smiled. “Ah! _Now_ you understand the concept of dialectical materialism!” ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10036 "2017-08-16T17:53:18Z")
Pence is [heading back](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/346830-pence-ends-international-trip-early-amid-trump-controversy) to deal with this clusterfuck. It’s a fine line that he is going to have to walk if he thinks he is going to be able to take over. I don’t envy him. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10037 "2017-08-16T17:54:15Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Hannity is going to have to _examine the fuck out of Hillary Clinton’s emails_ tonight. Oh, is _that_ what he calls that thing he does with Mistress Olga? ---
**Author:** ![Hocus\_Pocus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/41988e/32.png) [@Hocus\_Pocus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hocus_Pocus)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10038 "2017-08-16T18:05:11Z")
[Pence coming home early from international trip](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/346830-pence-ends-international-trip-early-amid-trump-controversy) Could tRump be throwing in the towel? I certainly hope so! ---
**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10039 "2017-08-16T18:07:10Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Private property, I can do whatever I want. What a concept. Anyone trespasses, threateningly, police are called and take them away in handcuffs. Nice edit you did there. I take it meaning there is no way you could be blamed ? And you know what, I agree. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10040 "2017-08-16T18:12:17Z")
> [@Hocus\_Pocus](#): > > [Pence coming home early from international trip](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/346830-pence-ends-international-trip-early-amid-trump-controversy) > > Could tRump be throwing in the towel? > > I certainly hope so! Picturing him getting off the plane and saying “So, what’d I miss?” ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10041 "2017-08-16T18:32:03Z")
With all of the nonsense in that press conference, I think there is potential to overlook my favorite part. When he stopped to take a break to make sure that everybody knew the racism wasn’t Bannon’s influence. The great detail he went into to make it clear that he had come to racism all on his own long before Bannon joined. That is ego beyond normal human limits. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Bredin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@John\_Bredin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Bredin)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10042 "2017-08-16T18:33:10Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Trump’s batshit crazy ramblings about people tearing down statues of George Washington actually made me think: I’ve never seen a statue of Washington or Jefferson, outside of Washington DC. I suspect that there are five Robert E. Lee’s for every George Washington around the country. Is there a database of public monuments that we can check? On Wacker Drive in Chicago, just across the river from TRump Tower, there’s a statue of George Washington hand-in-hand with the financiers of the Revolution, Robert Morris and Haym Salomon. [Heald Square Monument.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heald_Square_Monument)\* The statue was installed in the late 1930s, and the legend is that it was sculpted as an anti-Nazi message, with Washington figuratively and literally inseparable from the other two honorees. 😛 \*I’ve lived in Chicago my whole life and I’ve never heard anyone call the location Heald Square. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10043 "2017-08-16T18:36:12Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Picturing him getting off the plane and saying “So, what’d I miss?” This reminds me of a snippet from [a Challenge of the SuperFriends snark recap](http://jabootu.net/?p=886): > [@](#): > > With five minutes left, though, they can’t afford to cut right to the chase yet. So to drag things out, the Head warns that they’ve made a big mistake, issues an evil laugh and disappears. At this point I really wanted one of the so far uninvolved Legionnaires, Grodd or Giganta maybe, to go, “Hey, what the \*@#~& is going on here? What the hell was that floating head, and why’re all of you freaking out? _Cripes, can’t I catch a simple nap without you morons totally boning us?_” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=501) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=503)