# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 503
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10044 "2017-08-16T18:39:49Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Picturing him getting off the plane and saying “So, what’d I miss?” I’m expecting something more of the "Jesus reviewed the video tape and opened my eyes … " variety ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10045 "2017-08-16T19:02:38Z")
> [@wolfman](#): > > I’m expecting something more of the "Jesus reviewed the video tape… …the election on the field is overturned. The Republican Party will not be charged a timeout." ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10046 "2017-08-16T19:06:49Z")
And yet the Trumpists are eating up all the excuses. The Twittersphere is incredible: - Antifa Antifa Antifa - Trump was just telling the truth, Black Lives Matter are as bad as Nazis - Antifa - But he’s bringing back jobs - Civil War wasn’t about slavery - Fake news! It has to be seen to be believed. Nothing dissuades the Trumpists. There is absolutely nothing you can tell them - nothing - that will cause them to break from Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10047 "2017-08-16T19:18:03Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > And yet the Trumpists are eating up all the excuses. The Twittersphere is incredible: > > - Antifa Antifa Antifa > - Trump was just telling the truth, Black Lives Matter are as bad as Nazis > - Antifa > - But he’s bringing back jobs > - Civil War wasn’t about slavery > - Fake news! > > It has to be seen to be believed. Nothing dissuades the Trumpists. There is absolutely nothing you can tell them - nothing - that will cause them to break from Trump. Ironically, I’ve started reading the board’s Trumpeteers as [trombones](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_BU5hR9gXE). Except **Clothahump** , he’s been strangely silent recently. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10048 "2017-08-16T19:21:18Z")
I mean, it’s not really new information that Donald is a white nationalist and a Nazi sympathizer. It was obvious every time he retweeted images from those sort of websites. Numerous people have looked at the 2016 election and concluded that racism was the issue that primarily motivates Trump supporters. The GOP has been leaning on their racist dog whistles for the last forty years. All Donald’s done this week is make it impossible for his fellow Republicans to pretend like it’s business as usual. Mind you - none of his fellow Republicans have really denounced Donald by name, but at least they’re mostly clear that Nazis are the bad guys. Racism is a feature for the modern Republican party. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10049 "2017-08-16T19:22:12Z")
> [@Hocus\_Pocus](#): > > [Pence coming home early from international trip](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/346830-pence-ends-international-trip-early-amid-trump-controversy) > > Could tRump be throwing in the towel? It’s yet to be seen just how the endgame will play out, but the time frame has certainly moved into the much-nearer future. Pence may be back just to provide some reassurance to the sane loyalists (both of them) that the White House is under adult supervision, beyond what Kelly can provide. This will all look like a Comedy Channel movie in not so many years … ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10050 "2017-08-16T19:28:37Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > It’s yet to be seen just how the endgame will play out, but the time frame has certainly moved into the much-nearer future. > > Pence may be back just to provide some reassurance to the sane loyalists (both of them) that the White House is under adult supervision, beyond what Kelly can provide. > > This will all look like a Comedy Channel movie in not so many years … This is really interesting…presidents and vice-presidents don’t cut international travel short lightly. Generally, it’s for natural disasters or international crises. “Political shitstorm” isn’t usually sufficient. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10051 "2017-08-16T19:29:53Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > I mean, it’s not really new information that Donald is a white nationalist and a Nazi sympathizer. It was obvious every time he retweeted images from those sort of websites. Numerous people have looked at the 2016 election and concluded that racism was the issue that primarily motivates Trump supporters. And Black supporters somehow managed to convince themselves that he can’t possibly be all that bad. Boy, are _they_ feeling buyer’s remorse. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10052 "2017-08-16T19:30:02Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Ironically, I’ve started reading the board’s Trumpeteers as [trombones](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_BU5hR9gXE). I Like to imagine them read in the voice of a Bad Shakespearean melodrama on stage in front of a chorus chanting “Soros, Soros” as though it’s a magic Latin spell. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10053 "2017-08-16T19:33:06Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > I am Jewish. That is all the excuse a Nazi needs to make you a target. The antifa thugs you are so concerned about are the ones who will be rescuing you when the Nazis come after you. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10054 "2017-08-16T19:36:11Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > This is really interesting…presidents and vice-presidents don’t cut international travel short lightly. Generally, it’s for natural disasters or international crises. “Political shitstorm” isn’t usually sufficient. This President doesn’t cut a golf trip short lightly, and when he does, it \*causes \*a political shitstorm. This administration is as unprecedented as it is unpresidented. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10055 "2017-08-16T19:38:40Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > And Black supporters somehow managed to convince themselves that he can’t possibly be all that bad. Boy, are _they_ feeling buyer’s remorse. Not Paris Dennard. He’s almost as bad as Jeffery Lord. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10056 "2017-08-16T19:42:42Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Not Paris Dennard. He’s almost as bad as Jeffery Lord. Okay, the smart and sane ones are feeling buyer’s remorse. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10057 "2017-08-16T19:43:41Z")
I find it interesting how much effort goes into blaming the media. It’s a media coup! But for the most outrageous examples, all they have to do is play the tape. See that, everybody? No commentary really required. Quotes from senators and business leaders. Footage from protests, or the violence. And Trump’s own words. Things can get slanted, but gimme a break. You want to say the antifa guys got violent too? Fine, it doesn’t change guys marching around with Nazi flags, hating Jews and killing people. What denial. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10058 "2017-08-16T20:05:29Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > The GOP has been leaning on their racist dog whistles for the last forty years. And they are shocked, _shocked_ to find themselves in the middle of a pack of rabid feral dogs. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10059 "2017-08-16T20:15:23Z")
Opinion piece in the Washington Post. (From 2015) [Sorry, Hillary Clinton. Donald Trump is no Nazi.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/sorry-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-is-no-nazi/2015/08/31/2cee0bda-4fdc-11e5-8c19-0b6825aa4a3a_story.html?utm_term=.d20196f043b3) > [@](#): > > That is precisely what Hillary Clinton did Friday. A day after comparing her GOP opponents to terrorists, Clinton played the Hitler card, declaring that Donald Trump and his fellow Republicans want to “go and literally pull [illegal immigrants] out of their homes and their workplaces . . . Round them up, put them, I don’t know, in buses, boxcars, in order to take them across our border.” > > But her outrageous comments raise another question: Is there any Republican candidate, including Trump, who is seriously proposing forcible mass deportations of illegal immigrants? While the article is about illegal immigrants, it turns out that Trump is, at least, a Nazi sympathizer. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10060 "2017-08-16T20:16:45Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > That is all the excuse a Nazi needs to make you a target. > > The antifa thugs you are so concerned about are the ones who will be rescuing you when the Nazis come after you. No thanks. I am much more wary of the leftist thugs coming after me because I am a right winger than some Nazis because I am Jewish. I have yet to encounter one Nazi in the US. I have encountered many very agitated leftists. No violent encounters yet. But close. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10061 "2017-08-16T20:21:51Z")
Life is good in De Nile County. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10062 "2017-08-16T20:25:53Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > No thanks. I am much more wary of the leftist thugs coming after me because I am a right winger than some Nazis because I am Jewish. I have yet to encounter one Nazi in the US. I have encountered many very agitated leftists. No violent encounters yet. But close. Nazi thugs are just like serial killers. They look like everybody else. If everyone you meet is an agitated leftist, you might consider that you’re an asshole righty. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10063 "2017-08-16T20:31:12Z")
Mitch McConnell just jumped off the crazy train. “We can have no tolerance for an ideology of racial hatred,” McConnell said in a statement Wednesday. “There are no good neo-Nazis, and those who espouse their views are not supporters of American ideals and freedoms. We all have a responsibility to stand against hate and violence, wherever it raises its evil head.” > **[McConnell: 'There are no good neo-Nazis'](https://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/16/mitch-mcconnell-neo-nazi-trump-charlottesville-comments-241696)** > > McConnell’s office on Tuesday said the Kentucky Republican had no new response to Trump’s news conference. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=502) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=504)