# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10064 "2017-08-16T20:33:32Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> No thanks. I am much more wary of the leftist thugs coming after me because I am a right winger than some Nazis because I am Jewish. I have yet to encounter one Nazi in the US. I have encountered many very agitated leftists. No violent encounters yet. But close.

And during your wariness, minorities still encounter actual violence at the hands of Nazis, white supremacists and plain old racists. Some of them wear badges.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10065 "2017-08-16T20:44:36Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Nazi thugs are just like serial killers. They look like everybody else.

> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> And during your wariness, minorities still encounter actual violence at the hands of Nazis, white supremacists and plain old racists. Some of them wear badges.

‘The reason the cops in Charlottsville didn’t protect the protestors from the Nazis is the same reason you never see Peter Parker and Spider-Man in the same room together.’ 😛

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10066 "2017-08-16T20:52:26Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Mitch McConnell just jumped off the crazy train.
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> “We can have no tolerance for an ideology of racial hatred,” McConnell said in a statement Wednesday. “There are no good neo-Nazis, and those who espouse their views are not supporters of American ideals and freedoms. We all have a responsibility to stand against hate and violence, wherever it raises its evil head.”
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> [http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/16/mitch-mcconnell-neo-nazi-trump-charlottesville-comments-241696](http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/16/mitch-mcconnell-neo-nazi-trump-charlottesville-comments-241696)

The turtle rears its head. How long before Doofus In Charge tweets more sneering at Mitch?

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10067 "2017-08-16T20:54:58Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> No thanks. I am much more wary of the leftist thugs coming after me because I am a right winger than some Nazis because I am Jewish. I have yet to encounter one Nazi in the US. I have encountered many very agitated leftists. No violent encounters yet. But close.

You’re a liar and coward. You’d shit your pants and sell out your family if you ever came face to face with a neo-nazi.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10068 "2017-08-16T20:55:13Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Rumor on the Street says that the remaining had quit by this morning, so this was done in an effort to stave off the embarrassment of having his CEO team quit on him.
> 
> That is unconfirmed, however. Sounds unlikely and a little too pat, but that’s what I’m reading.

Wall Street Journal confirms the rumor true:

[https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/trump-business-advisory-council-to-disband-1502904005](https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/trump-business-advisory-council-to-disband-1502904005)

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10069 "2017-08-16T20:59:36Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Pence is [heading back](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/346830-pence-ends-international-trip-early-amid-trump-controversy) to deal with this clusterfuck. It’s a fine line that he is going to have to walk if he thinks he is going to be able to take over. I don’t envy him.

Well he’s a hate filled homophobe, why would anyone envy him?

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10070 "2017-08-16T21:04:41Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> No thanks. I am much more wary of the leftist thugs coming after me because I am a right winger than some Nazis because I am Jewish. I have yet to encounter one Nazi in the US. I have encountered many very agitated leftists. No violent encounters yet. But close.

Just because you haven’t encountered it doesn’t mean other Jews haven’t.

> **['Sieg Heil' and assault rifles: The president of Charlottesville's synagogue...](https://www.businessinsider.com/charlottesvilles-synagogue-president-scene-white-nationalists-neo-nazis-2017-8)**
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> "This is America in 2017."

I forgot who posted it and in which thread, but VICE News did a news documentary on the Charlottesville protests and one of the first chants was “Jews will not replace us.” They switched back and forth between that one and “You will not replace us.” A movement that probably got most of its initial blast of energy from immigration issues and ongoing black-white tensions in this country is now gradually metastasizing into a venomous form of intolerance that is now increasingly omnidirectional. I actually knew personally and know of Chinese Americans who voted for Trump and my comment then is one I’ll repeat: you might feel like taking comfort in knowing that this toxic venom is being directed at others. I seriously doubt you have any idea as to the types of demonic wolves that are being unleashed.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10071 "2017-08-16T21:06:16Z")

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[New poll says 22 out of 37 countries prefer Putin over Trump to do the right thing WRT world affaris.](https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2017/08/16/shock-poll-most-countries-prefer-putin-over-trump/#c0b8e9a6dcf1)

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10072 "2017-08-16T21:23:23Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Mitch McConnell just jumped off the crazy train.
> 
> “We can have no tolerance for an ideology of racial hatred,” McConnell said in a statement Wednesday. “There are no good neo-Nazis, and those who espouse their views are not supporters of American ideals and freedoms. We all have a responsibility to stand against hate and violence, wherever it raises its evil head.”
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> [http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/16/mitch-mcconnell-neo-nazi-trump-charlottesville-comments-241696](http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/16/mitch-mcconnell-neo-nazi-trump-charlottesville-comments-241696)

We now live in a world where the Senate Majority Leader saying that Nazis are bad is considered newsworthy.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10073 "2017-08-16T21:50:52Z")

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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> No, no, just made the Nazis some cookies and then ignored them. They would soon have been irrelevant!

I am going to write an angry letter to Stan Lee of Marvel Comics, demanding that he apologize for that vicious Captain America fellow. Don’t he know Nazis have feelings? 😃

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10074 "2017-08-16T21:54:03Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> And all those Nazis protesting the decision of the local elected leaders to remove the Robert E Lee statue were all concerned Charlottesville residents?
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> Yes, it is public property, but what happened to the conservative notion of state/local authority being sacrosanct?

That freedom of speech (but only for them) and that states rights (but only for slavery and dominionsim – and them).

If cities or states want to take down these statues, that is their right to express themselves. Free speech means the have the right to say “fuck the dumb shit”. Now if a mob of armed Nazis comes to town to stop them, I guess it shows they only use free speech and states rights as a smoke screen, to hide behind.

Come on!!! Nazis who believe in rights? What the fuck.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10075 "2017-08-16T21:55:10Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Opinion piece in the Washington Post. (From 2015)  
> [Sorry, Hillary Clinton. Donald Trump is no Nazi.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/sorry-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-is-no-nazi/2015/08/31/2cee0bda-4fdc-11e5-8c19-0b6825aa4a3a_story.html?utm_term=.d20196f043b3)
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> While the article is about illegal immigrants, it turns out that Trump is, at least, a Nazi sympathizer.

What’s the fucking difference.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10076 "2017-08-16T21:56:17Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Mitch McConnell just jumped off the crazy train.
> 
> “We can have no tolerance for an ideology of racial hatred,” McConnell said in a statement Wednesday. “There are no good neo-Nazis, and those who espouse their views are not supporters of American ideals and freedoms. We all have a responsibility to stand against hate and violence, wherever it raises its evil head.”
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> [http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/16/mitch-mcconnell-neo-nazi-trump-charlottesville-comments-241696](http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/16/mitch-mcconnell-neo-nazi-trump-charlottesville-comments-241696)

I guarantee that piece of shit is only doing it, because he thinks it will save his ass.

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**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10077 "2017-08-16T21:57:19Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> You’re a liar and coward. You’d shit your pants and sell out your family if you ever came face to face with a neo-nazi.

or face to face with anyone else, I bet.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10078 "2017-08-16T22:15:11Z")

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So, just to confirm, the President of the United States is a Nazi sympathizer, assisted into power by an ex-Communist KGB colonel who became ruler of Russia after the fall of the USSR.

Is that where we are pretty much at?

(See, this clusterfuck is always in the making. Whoda thunk just 2 months ago the efforts to get rid of health care for 24 million people would be the _third_ most horrifying and repugnant thing done by Trump and the GOP?

1. Nuke war saber-rattling with Korea
2. Nazis
3. ACA Repeal, Fuck Off and Die Already)

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10079 "2017-08-16T22:28:49Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> No thanks. I am much more wary of the leftist thugs coming after me because I am a right winger than some Nazis because I am Jewish. I have yet to encounter one Nazi in the US. I have encountered many very agitated leftists. No violent encounters yet. But close.

So what you’re saying is, you’re a holocaust denier.

Or you believe that the holocaust was actually carried out by liberals, possibly Obama and Hillary themselves. Yeah, I can see you thinking that.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10080 "2017-08-16T22:32:11Z")

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> [@begbert2](#):
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> So what you’re saying is, you’re a holocaust denier.
> 
> Or you believe that the holocaust was actually carried out by liberals, possibly Obama and Hillary themselves. Yeah, I can see you thinking that.

One of the comforting lies that right-wingers tell themselves is that the National Socialists were actually socialist and therefore leftists. Just like the DPRK and the GDR are/were actually democratic.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10081 "2017-08-16T22:50:25Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> One of the comforting lies that right-wingers tell themselves is that the National Socialists were actually socialist and therefore leftists. Just like the DPRK and the GDR are/were actually democratic.

Dammit! I was going to post that! :mad:

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**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10082 "2017-08-16T22:57:51Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> So, just to confirm, the President of the United States is a Nazi sympathizer, assisted into power by an ex-Communist KGB colonel who became ruler of Russia after the fall of the USSR.
> 
> Is that where we are pretty much at?

It’s all part of a cunning plan. You see, the time when America was capital-G great was just after the Nazis had been defeated, and Japan was being rebuilt. So…  
[ol]  
[li]Bring back Nazis[/li][li]Get Japan nuked (by NK)[/li][li]Defeat Nazis and rebuild Japan[/li][li]MAGA![/li][/ol]

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**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10083 "2017-08-16T23:00:36Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> No thanks. I am much more wary of the leftist thugs coming after me because I am a right winger than some Nazis because I am Jewish.

Then you’re a fool who doesn’t know his own history.

Let me make something clear to you: the alt-right, the white nationalists - they’ll \*never \*accept you as one of them. Never. They may act like they do if it serves their purpose, but in the end, it doesn’t matter who you voted for, it doesn’t matter what you believe, to them, you will always be the Other. You’re just another useful idiot, and sooner or later, your usefulness will run out.

Myself, I know who my enemies are. It’s these exact people my country was founded to fight - not Arabs, not Iranians, not radical leftists. White. Fucking. Racists.

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