# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 507
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10124 "2017-08-17T02:03:06Z")
> [@Pippers](#): > > The people resisting white supremacy and nazi nuts are not thugs. People “resisting” are not. People who are violently beating them up are. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10125 "2017-08-17T02:19:10Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Faux News invites a Liberal and a Conservative to discuss Confederate statues. (Then Trump does his dipshit nazi sympathy ad lib news conference.) Both guests end up in tears criticizing our shitbag President and his lack of basic human decency. > > [https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/08/16/fox-news-invited-a-conservative-and-a-liberal-to-debate-confederate-statues-they-both-ripped-trump/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/08/16/fox-news-invited-a-conservative-and-a-liberal-to-debate-confederate-statues-they-both-ripped-trump/) $99 _a year_ to subscribe to the Washington Post? :eek: Hell no. Anyone got a link that’s not behind a paywall? ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10126 "2017-08-17T02:25:57Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > $99 _a year_ to subscribe to the Washington Post? :eek: Hell no. > > Anyone got a link that’s not behind a paywall? I was able to read it fine. Try opening it in an incognito/private browsing window. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10127 "2017-08-17T02:26:01Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > $99 _a year_ to subscribe to the Washington Post? :eek: Hell no. > > Anyone got a link that’s not behind a paywall? In Chrome, you can always right-click, open in Incognito Window. In the Windows 10 browser, go to the ellipse in the upper right and open new InPrivate Window and paste it in there. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10128 "2017-08-17T02:26:56Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Faux News invites a Liberal and a Conservative to discuss Confederate statues. (Then Trump does his dipshit nazi sympathy ad lib news conference.) Both guests end up in tears criticizing our shitbag President and his lack of basic human decency. > > [https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/08/16/fox-news-invited-a-conservative-and-a-liberal-to-debate-confederate-statues-they-both-ripped-trump/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/08/16/fox-news-invited-a-conservative-and-a-liberal-to-debate-confederate-statues-they-both-ripped-trump/) Thanks, I got it. That was actually really powerful. I hope it made some people think. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10129 "2017-08-17T02:28:53Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Faux News invites a Liberal and a Conservative to discuss Confederate statues. (Then Trump does his dipshit nazi sympathy ad lib news conference.) Both guests end up in tears criticizing our shitbag President and his lack of basic human decency. > > [https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/08/16/fox-news-invited-a-conservative-and-a-liberal-to-debate-confederate-statues-they-both-ripped-trump/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/08/16/fox-news-invited-a-conservative-and-a-liberal-to-debate-confederate-statues-they-both-ripped-trump/) Fox is teetering on the edge of the lifeboats. They brought out the no-standards whores like Hannity, Coulter, and Gringrich, but couldn’t find anyone with a shred of credibility to defend Darth Imbicilus. I’m sure they are waiting for the next poll to see if there is any money at all in hanging in on him any longer. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10130 "2017-08-17T02:31:19Z")
Jesus. Now I’m feeling really sad. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10131 "2017-08-17T02:31:59Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Here’s the thing: For most normal people, hating Nazis is a good thing. Being hate-filled toward white supremacists that are screaming anti-Semitic chants is acceptable. Having hatred in your heart toward members of the KKK who are espousing racial cleansing of our country is fucking noble. Physically pushing back against terrorists who threaten the well-being of American citizens is fucking heroic. > > Then there are trolls like you. Pathetic individuals in real life, so you find meaning for yourself in an anonymous online existence where you play the part of a shitbird. Actually saying people fighting against racism, that white supremacy and terrorism are as bad as the racists, white supremacists and terrorists themselves. > > If these were Arab Americans, waving the ISIS flag in Virginia, driving a car into a crowd of peaceful demonstrators and killing a young woman, yelling angrily about blood and soil and Christians and whites, and there were angry counter-protesters-- some of them itching to get physical-- I’m pretty sure your president wouldn’t be so quick to say “many sides were acting poorly.” > > These white supremacists/Nazis/KKK fucks are just as dangerous to our nation as ISIS. Probably moreso because they’re actually here, organized and have the Big Orange Yam’s approval to carry on. Nailed it. This is homegrown terrorism. Imagine how the residents of Charlottesville who are not aligned with the alt-right feel when they go for a walk these days. Pretty goddamned terrified I’d say. The terrorist’s goal is to get normally complacent people to feel terrified all the time, waiting for the other shoe to drop. Do you really want to root out terrorism, 45? Then start with these hate groups and lose the false equivalency. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10132 "2017-08-17T02:51:21Z")
Remember that winery Trump said he owns in Charlottesville? Yeah, he don’t own it. And the winery itself goes to great efforts to make sure people know that. [Trump Winery is a registered trade name of Eric Trump Wine Manufacturing LLC, which is not owned, managed or affiliated with Donald J. Trump, The Trump Organization or any of their affiliates.](http://www.trumpwinery.com/legal/) Of course, all of Trump’s business deals are interwoven. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10133 "2017-08-17T02:56:49Z")
Bannon gave an interview where he [admits that they are bluffing](http://prospect.org/article/steve-bannon-unrepentant) on North Korea. Apparently he did not know he was doing an interview, and never told the reporter it was off the record. \* “There’s no military solution [to North Korea’s nuclear threats], forget it. Until somebody solves the part of the equation that shows me that ten million people in Seoul don’t die in the first 30 minutes from conventional weapons, I don’t know what you’re talking about, there’s no military solution here, they got us.”\* ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10134 "2017-08-17T02:57:39Z")
Holy fuck is that an incredible ‘agreement’ you hit when you click on that site. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10135 "2017-08-17T03:35:31Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I forgot who posted it and in which thread, but VICE News did a news documentary on the Charlottesville protests and one of the first chants was “Jews will not replace us.” They switched back and forth between that one and “You will not replace us.” [The link is near the bottom of this post.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20415546&postcount=128) ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10136 "2017-08-17T04:19:51Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > [New poll says 22 out of 37 countries prefer Putin over Trump to do the right thing WRT world affaris.](https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2017/08/16/shock-poll-most-countries-prefer-putin-over-trump/#c0b8e9a6dcf1) The fact that either of them got into the double digits anywhere is kind of insane. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10137 "2017-08-17T04:24:59Z")
> [@Kamino\_Neko](#): > > The fact that either of them got into the double digits anywhere is kind of insane. [Yeah well, consider this.](http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/06/11153140/PG_2017.06.26.US_Image-00-1.png) ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10138 "2017-08-17T04:49:10Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > [Yeah well, consider this.](http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/06/11153140/PG_2017.06.26.US_Image-00-1.png) What’s with Trump’s high ratings in Africa? Philippines, I understand, but Africa? ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10139 "2017-08-17T04:50:20Z")
Wow, Trump preferred over Obama in Russia and Israel. The first is not surprising; the second is pretty damn depressing. ---
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10140 "2017-08-17T04:54:21Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > $99 _a year_ to subscribe to the Washington Post? :eek: Hell no. If you are an Amazon Prime member, you can sign up [through Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/The-Washington-Post-Digital-Access/dp/B072MHQFJ1) and get first 6 months free, then $3.99 per month after that. Which is $48 per year. Well worth it. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10141 "2017-08-17T05:06:07Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > What’s with Trump’s high ratings in Africa? Philippines, I understand, but Africa? Nigerians respect a con man. 😉 As Trevor Noah has pointed out, [Trump is basically an African dictator.](http://crooksandliars.com/2016/01/trevor-noah-donald-trump-basically-african) ---
**Author:** ![Battle\_Pope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Battle\_Pope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Battle_Pope)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10142 "2017-08-17T06:11:24Z")
[Whitehouse plans for Movember leaked.](http://www.theshovel.com.au/2017/08/17/white-house-movember-plans-leaked/) ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10143 "2017-08-17T07:04:06Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Why would I want to be one of them? I don’t know. Why is your tongue so far up their ass? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=506) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=508)