# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 508
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10144 "2017-08-17T07:21:51Z")
The DoJeffBo is [trying to go after Dreamhost](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/15/us/politics/justice-department-trump-dreamhost-protests.html) in an effort to obtain all the logs of all visitors to and anti-Orange-Shit-Gibbon site, to, um, root out, uh, something? ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10145 "2017-08-17T12:28:36Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > The DoJeffBo is [trying to go after Dreamhost](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/15/us/politics/justice-department-trump-dreamhost-protests.html) in an effort to obtain all the logs of all visitors to and anti-Orange-Shit-Gibbon site, to, um, root out, uh, something? Those who unbellyfeel TrumpSoc. ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10146 "2017-08-17T12:36:39Z")
Trumpelthinskin has a rally planned in Phoenix on August 22. The mayor of Phoenix [wants him to postpone the event](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/greg-stanton-phoenix-mayor-trump-delay-rally_us_59955563e4b0d0d2cc844c4c?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009). [QUOTE=Mayor Greg Stanton] It is my hope that more sound judgment prevails and that he delays his visit. [/QUOTE] “More sound judgment”? From the infant-in-chief? ---
**Author:** ![Gus\_Gusterson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/85f322/32.png) [@Gus\_Gusterson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gus_Gusterson)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10147 "2017-08-17T12:42:37Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Remember that winery Trump said he owns in Charlottesville? Yeah, he don’t own it. And the winery itself goes to great efforts to make sure people know that. > > [Trump Winery is a registered trade name of Eric Trump Wine Manufacturing LLC, which is not owned, managed or affiliated with Donald J. Trump, The Trump Organization or any of their affiliates.](http://www.trumpwinery.com/legal/) > > Of course, all of Trump’s business deals are interwoven. Donald Trump bought the winery. Eric Trump (Donald Trump’s son) is president of Trump Wine. The statement on the website may be true, but it’s probably because Trump “divested” the business (remember the famous stacks of folders?). Forgive him for forgetting that he’s supposed to pretend that he doesn’t own these things while he’s president. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10148 "2017-08-17T13:26:49Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > Thanks, I got it. > > That was actually really powerful. I hope it made some people think. The same WaPo page with this story had a link to a short video they had compiled, showing side-by-side Fox News pundits spouting talking points re: Charlottsville (e.g., coining the phrase “alt-left”), and Trump parroting the same line 24 hours later. It was appalling. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10149 "2017-08-17T13:36:17Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > I think you read that wrong. They all condemned what Trump said, they just didn’t name Trump. Basically all of them, from what I have been reading, straight out said that Racism and White Supremacists have no place in our society. Considering how much he loves hearing his name, not saying it can actually be done in a way that he’d find more irritating than if it was said. Without his name, other people’s inputs are bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. With it, bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzNAMEbzzzzzzzzNAMEbzzzzzzzNAME. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10150 "2017-08-17T14:03:39Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > The New York Times also reports it this way. Several of the members of the councils started gathering consensus around a mass exodus Tuesday night. A conference call Wednesday morning sealed the deal. When one of the members passed word of the walkout to Trump, he tweeted that he was disbanding the councils. > > [https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/16/business/trumps-council-ceos.html?referer=https://news.google.com/](https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/16/business/trumps-council-ceos.html?referer=https://news.google.com/) > > **A Republican who has lost the support of corporate America**. That’s not something I expected to see. They still support what he can do for him, though, so he’s not completely damaged goods just yet. I’m sure they are also hearing from their shareholders not to go to the mat with this. They’ve made their little statement collectively and they’ll probably try to reconcile through John Kelley and say “Look, man, it’s not like we wanted to do this, but he gave us no choice.” But all of that being said, Trump continues to sink lower and lower. I suspected he would run toward the fringes and he’s doing just that. The question now is whether the fringe will be large enough to protect him. The House districts controlled by Republicans are going to be _the_ bellwether test from now on. If I were the DNC I would be really zeroing in on these districts and working overtime to find candidates with some crossover appeal. ---
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10151 "2017-08-17T14:22:01Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > Considering how much he loves hearing his name, not saying it can actually be done in a way that he’d find more irritating than if it was said. > Without his name, other people’s inputs are bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. > With it, bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzNAMEbzzzzzzzzNAMEbzzzzzzzNAME. [![](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ed/86/d2/ed86d25361025c917c9aa44cd4f2447e.gif) ](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ed/86/d2/ed86d25361025c917c9aa44cd4f2447e.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10152 "2017-08-17T14:27:07Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > The House districts controlled by Republicans are going to be _the_ bellwether test from now on. If I were the DNC I would be really zeroing in on these districts and working overtime to find candidates with some crossover appeal. Boom. That. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10153 "2017-08-17T14:28:50Z")
Serious question: “Jews will not replace us”?😕 When have Jews ever replaced people? I don’t even get it. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10154 "2017-08-17T14:31:57Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > Serious question: “Jews will not replace us”?😕 When have Jews ever replaced people? I don’t even get it. I thought that was odd as well. My guess is that some things don’t translate that well from German. ---
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10155 "2017-08-17T14:32:59Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > Serious question: “Jews will not replace us”?😕 When have Jews ever replaced people? I don’t even get it. There is the whole Palestine thing going on in the Levant. But other than that, your point stands in this instance. ---
**Author:** ![Uncle\_Jocko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uncle_jocko/32/2932_2.png) [@Uncle\_Jocko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Jocko)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10156 "2017-08-17T14:34:23Z")
With all this ranting about “both sides” and “violent thugs” everywhere you turn, I saw something online yesterday that struck me. I mean, it didn’t strike me like a club-wielding thug, but … "If you leave Nazis alone, they will still try to kill you. If you leave the antifa alone, they’ll play Pokemon Go and eat Nutella." I can’t condone violence, and I applaud the efforts of those who are resisting white nationalism and racism through nonviolent means, but - there just isn’t any equivalence between antifa counterprotesters pushing back against outsiders promoting white supremacy and racist/Nazi/KKK/alt-right idiots trying to destroy American ideals. I don’t care if they were smacking each other with sticks. They. Are. Not. The. Same. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10157 "2017-08-17T14:34:49Z")
I thought I was hearing “You will not replace us.” But I’m not sure that really changes anything. I can make it work. “You people over there who are not us are seeking to usurp our power and privilege and take it for yourselves. No way!” ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10158 "2017-08-17T14:36:49Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > Serious question: “Jews will not replace us”?😕 When have Jews ever replaced people? I don’t even get it. I don’t think it’s much deeper than the fact that “Jew” rhymes with “you”. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10159 "2017-08-17T14:38:29Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I thought that was odd as well. My guess is that some things don’t translate that well from German. [From here.](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/08/jared-ivanka-charlottesville) > [@](#): > > That moment very clearly passed, as we witnessed on Tuesday, and they are stuck in the swamp with her father, who gave credence to neo-Nazi groups like “Unite the Right.” Its spokesperson told Vice News Tonight in Charlottesville that he faults the president for giving his daughter to a Jew.” > > “ **I don’t think you can feel about race the way I do and watch that Kushner bastard walk around with that beautiful girl,” Christopher Cantwell, told Vice.** ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10160 "2017-08-17T14:40:01Z")
I took it to mean that they see Jews as wielding some sort of power in this country (politics, entertainment, business, Illuminati) and that they believe white culture/confederate heritage is being replaced…and it’s being allowed/controlled by the Jews in charge. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10161 "2017-08-17T14:42:20Z")
John Kelly is shocked(!) to learn that[Trump lacks discipline](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-john-kelly-trump-discipline-20170816-story.html). ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10162 "2017-08-17T14:43:46Z")
The “Jews will not replace us” is about a specific conspiracy theory – that (supposedly) Jews are organizing non-white people (and white liberals) to interbreed to outbreed and immigrate and thus “replace” pure white European people with non-white and mixed people. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10163 "2017-08-17T14:54:02Z")
> [@Uncle\_Jocko](#): > > If you leave the antifa alone, they’ll play Pokemon Go and eat Nutella." [Damn those antifas](http://www.npr.org/2017/08/15/543702067/truck-with-20-tons-of-nutella-and-chocolate-vanishes-police-hunt-for-semis-sweet)! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=507) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=509)