# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 511
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10204 "2017-08-17T19:26:21Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > By the way, maybe I missed it, but have any Republican elected officials ever expressed a hope that a President be assassinated? [Donald Trump hints at assassination of Hillary Clinton by gun rights supporters – Republican presidential nominee says ‘second amendment people’ could stop Democrat choosing undesirable supreme court justices if she is elected](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/09/trump-gun-owners-clinton-judges-second-amendment) ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10205 "2017-08-17T19:27:28Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > I’m guessing you’re referring to [this](http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/secret-service-investigating-missouri-state-senator-s-facebook-post-hoping/article_406059d6-1aa4-52fc-89ee-2a6a69baaf2e.html)? Ah. Yes, totally unacceptable. I wouldn’t vote for her, either. I wouldn’t vote for anyone that promotes violence. In fact, I withdrew my support from Bernie when he was too slow to condemn the violence of a small contingent of his supporters. As I’ve stated in the past, political leaders have a responsibility to set the moral tone for the nation. > [@](#): > > Doesn’t much change the fact that the President of the United States is a white supremacist, though. Yeah, afraid not. This is the standard tactic, I think. Refute any and all legitimate criticism of Trump’s administration with some random example of leftists behaving badly. It’s incredibly dishonest. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10206 "2017-08-17T19:28:49Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > [Donald Trump hints at assassination of Hillary Clinton by gun rights supporters – Republican presidential nominee says ‘second amendment people’ could stop Democrat choosing undesirable supreme court justices if she is elected](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/09/trump-gun-owners-clinton-judges-second-amendment) Well yeah, there was that, but who’s keeping track, really? ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10207 "2017-08-17T19:29:33Z")
So, how long until Trump picks a fight with the mayor of Barcelona? ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10208 "2017-08-17T19:29:52Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > By the way, maybe I missed it, but have any Republican elected officials ever expressed a hope that a President be assassinated? Georgia Senator David Perdue: “Let his days be few; and let another take his office.” Edit: ninja’d ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10209 "2017-08-17T19:29:59Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > By the way, maybe I missed it, but have any Republican elected officials ever expressed a hope that a President be assassinated? Shut the fuck up, Nazi apologist douche-bag. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10210 "2017-08-17T19:32:36Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > This is the standard tactic, I think. Refute any and all legitimate criticism of Trump’s administration with some random example of leftists behaving badly. It’s incredibly dishonest. Indeed. It is the tactic of a Nazi apologist scum sucking pig, who will do anything, ANYthing to excuse the white supremacist in the White House. ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10211 "2017-08-17T19:33:59Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Indeed. It is the tactic of a Nazi apologist scum sucking pig, who will do anything, ANYthing to excuse the white supremacist in the White House. I think the filth is just trolling. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10212 "2017-08-17T19:40:20Z")
Nazi apologist, or shithead troll pretending to be a Nazi apologist. Same shit, different day. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10213 "2017-08-17T19:41:43Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > So, how long until Trump picks a fight with the mayor of Barcelona? As long as she doesn’t interrupt his golf game… ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10214 "2017-08-17T20:04:29Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > I’m genuinely concerned that Bannon drunkenly explained that Trump’s entire North Korea strategy is a bluff, and now Trump has incentive to prove Bannon wrong. How about [Tillerson & Mattis](http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08/17/tillerson-mattis-rebuff-bannon-claim-no-military-solution-for-north-korea.html)? ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10215 "2017-08-17T20:08:53Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > How about [Tillerson & Mattis](http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08/17/tillerson-mattis-rebuff-bannon-claim-no-military-solution-for-north-korea.html)? It’s nice of Tillerson & Mattis to say the right words, but they don’t exactly say that Bannon is wrong. If there’s a military solution, nobody is saying what it is. North Korea is basically holding Seoul hostage. No way to take out their nukes (militarily) without killing the hostage. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10216 "2017-08-17T20:20:58Z")
My 88 year old mother, who is a lifelong middle of the road Democrat, detests Donald Trump like no other politician she has ever detested. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10217 "2017-08-17T20:24:03Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > By the way, maybe I missed it, but have any Republican elected officials ever expressed a hope that a President be assassinated? By the way, and maybe I missed it, but what does this have to do with the Trump administration being a clusterfuck? Take this shit to a relevant thread, you pathetic turd. Sadly, the story you’re trying to reference _is_ worth discussing. You’re just so desperate to distract from the shitstorm of Trump, and derail this discussion, the one time you actually have something relevant to say, you still shit the bed. Hilarious. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10218 "2017-08-17T20:29:48Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > I’m guessing you’re referring to [this](http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/secret-service-investigating-missouri-state-senator-s-facebook-post-hoping/article_406059d6-1aa4-52fc-89ee-2a6a69baaf2e.html)? > > No need to be coy. You have a valid point. Come right out and say it. The person who made the remark is awful and is worthy of criticism. I hope she gets all kind of shit for saying that, and if she were my representative, that statement would likely make me withhold support for her. > > Doesn’t much change the fact that the President of the United States is a white supremacist, though. But, hey, you made a valid point and that’s something for you to be proud of. > > I would just direct you to the Stupid Liberal Idea of the Day thread, where I’m sure **Clothahump** would appreciate being tagged out after fighting the good fight alone so long. > > ETA: And, by the way, the leadership of the state Democratic party has denounced her, and she has apologized. Missouri Democratic Senator Claire McCaskill and State Party Chair Stephen Webber have called for State Senator Maria Chappelle-Nadal to resign ([cite](http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/mccaskill-others-call-for-state-senator-to-resign-after-post/article_406059d6-1aa4-52fc-89ee-2a6a69baaf2e.html?utm_content=buffer13efe&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=LEEDCC)). See? See how decent people and institutions respond to hateful and violent rhetoric? Are powerful people in the Republican establishment calling for Trump to resign? ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10219 "2017-08-17T20:31:49Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > By the way, maybe I missed it, but have any Republican elected officials ever expressed a hope that a President be assassinated? > **[In private, Burr quips about gun owners shooting Clinton | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2016/10/31/politics/richard-burr-hillary-clinton-gun-owners/index.html)** > > Sen. Richard Burr privately mused over the weekend that gun owners may want to put a “bullseye” on Hillary Clinton, according to audio obtained by CNN. > **[Helms Takes New Swipe at Clinton, Then Calls It Mistake (Published 1994)](https://www.nytimes.com/1994/11/23/us/helms-takes-new-swipe-at-clinton-then-calls-it-mistake.html)** > **[Secret Service Investigating Trump Adviser Al Baldasaro, Who Said Hillary...](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/secret-service-investigating-trump-adviser-al-baldasaro-hillary/story?id=40743979)** > > The Secret Service is looking into one of Donald Trump's advisers. (Note he is also an elected State representative) Too easy. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10220 "2017-08-17T20:36:17Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > So, how long until Trump picks a fight with the mayor of Barcelona? No later than 7AM eastern time tomorrow; IOW whenever he gets around to his morning Tweetstorm. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10221 "2017-08-17T20:40:14Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Trump is rhapsodizing this morning about the “beautiful” Confederate statues. > > [x.com](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/898169407213645824) Yep, for me no trip to a city park is complete unless I have a chance to stare at a statue of some horse’s ass. Mounted on a horse. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10222 "2017-08-17T20:52:47Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > Well yeah, there was that, but who’s keeping track, really? In all seriousness, I think this is part of why Trump is dangerous and why he’s been able to get away with so much outrageous behavior for so long. He somehow has become normalized, and that’s one of the dangers: that we get used to him to the point of not taking him seriously anymore. Reverting to another pit thread that I created, this is why CNN and other networks other than Fox are also, in their own way, just as bad as Fox. And in some ways, they’re even more dangerous because while almost everyone knows that Fox reports with blatant bias, a lot of people expect more nuanced views of the news on CNN. By giving Lord and others a platform, it sends the message that any message that comes from a newsworthy political contender is newsworthy. I don’t care if CNN fired Jeffrey Lord, he never should have been there in the first damn place. Trump should have been shut down in the primaries by and all serious news agencies. I understand that they have to cover the train wreck, but they don’t have to invite these asshole surrogates and proxies on their shows. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10223 "2017-08-17T20:55:48Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > It’s more striking when you see his previous video when he’s being interviewed and showing off his guns and knives and talking super tough. > > Additionally when he talks of going to the gym so he can be more violent. > > Then he melts down into a little pile of snowflake-jelly. One of the most frightening part of the Vice video is when one of the “Unite the Right” protesters ( I think it’s the same guy but I’m not sure and not going back to check ) is pathetically cowering and sniveling over the phone to the police about not being able to drive his NeoNazi mobile somewhere to pick up some of his cowardly “patriot” friends and they were scared to walk near a leftist so he told the cops if they didn’t let his car through he was going to have 200 armed guys shoot their way out. Really, if your such a fragile scaredy-cat patriot that you’re too frightened to go to Applebee’s or the movies or a bigot parade without carrying an AK47 then you should do the world a favor keep your delicate snowflake ass at home. > [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Is it just me, or does “Bannon was in high spirits when he phoned me” sound like non-actionable code langugage for “Bannon was drunk off his ass”? That explains it all. Justice Dept leaks are sad and bad. But the leaks from INSIDE the White House are how the citizens of Idiot Hill show their love for their King so that’s OK. So says Trump. So Bannon can drunk dial reporters and spill military secrets. > [@jsgoddess](#): > > It’s the same people who said that Obama had a single-digit IQ but was the brilliantly evil mind behind a vast conspiracy of atheist Muslims. Or how I can be a butt-hurt snowflake and a violent scary alt-leftist all at the same time! But now to what I came in to post, sorry if someone beat me to it and I missed it. But we now have an interim replacement for Scaramucci- I guess they aren’t even gong to TRY to call it a permanent position. > **[Hope Hicks takes interim White House communications role amid search for...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/08/16/hope-hicks-takes-expanded-white-house-communications-role-amid-search-for-scaramucci-replacement/?utm_term=.aa93dac87aa1)** > > Hicks, one of Trump's most trusted confidants, will have a hand in finding a new White House communications chief. So Trump picked Hope Hicks, a 28 year old former model and “trusted confidante and advisor”. Nuff said. Move over, John Edwards. No, I want to add that I bet she had a hand in this train wreck of a White House memo telling the GOP to get on board with their leftist bad, Nazis good narrative. [https://news.vice.com/story/trump-white-house-charlottesville](https://news.vice.com/story/trump-white-house-charlottesville) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=510) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=512)