# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 512
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10224 "2017-08-17T20:56:33Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > Too easy. The response will be, I predict, (as it’s a distinction without a moral difference), that threats #1 and #3 were for a presidential candidate, not a president. #2 will require a different type of weaseling though. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10225 "2017-08-17T21:09:26Z")
Today’s (8/17/17) Signe WIlkonson Editorial cartoon pretty much nails it: [http://www.gocomics.com/signewilkinson](http://www.gocomics.com/signewilkinson) ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10226 "2017-08-17T21:25:22Z")
> [@](#): > > President Donald Trump has ended plans for an Advisory Council on Infrastructure, a White House official told CNN Thursday. Damn, and I thought this was Infrastructure Week at the White House. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10227 "2017-08-17T21:34:12Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Wow, Trump preferred over Obama in Russia and Israel. > > The first is not surprising; the second is pretty damn depressing. What did you expect Israelis would think? When it comes to building walls and fences, they make Trump look like a piker. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10228 "2017-08-17T21:34:12Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Damn, and I thought this was Infrastructure Week at the White House. He’s digging as fast as he can. He needs to shore up his reputation. There’s talk of building bridges. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10229 "2017-08-17T21:49:57Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > … See how decent people and institutions respond to hateful and violent rhetoric? Are powerful people in the Republican establishment calling for Trump to resign? No. They won’t even say his name. When Paul Ryan tweeted this in response to Trump’s pro-hate-group remarks: > [@](#): > > Paul Ryan ✔ @SpeakerRyan > We must be clear. White supremacy is repulsive. This bigotry is counter to all this country stands for. There can be no moral ambiguity. > 6:01 PM - Aug 15, 2017 …he got a lot of applause. But this is what columnist Charlie Pierce tweeted in reply: > [@](#): > > Charles P. Pierce‏Verified account @CharlesPPierce Aug 15 > Charles P. Pierce Retweeted Paul Ryan > **Say his goddamn name.** [x.com](https://twitter.com/CharlesPPierce) Pierce makes a good argument that this is something Americans need to be demanding of Republicans who try to gain points with abstract generalizations: > [@](#): > > Say his goddamn name. Don’t tell me how much you deplore racism in the abstract. That does not make me feel good as a citizen. Tell me you deplore racism in the specific human being who’s now president\* of the United States. For anyone whose moral compass still points true north, that’s the proper response. > **[Say His Name When You Denounce His Bigotry](https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a57052/trump-detractors/)** > > It's the only way. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10230 "2017-08-17T21:54:29Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > He’s digging as fast as he can. > > He needs to shore up his reputation. > > There’s talk of building bridges. > > 😃 I think you mean bunkers. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10231 "2017-08-17T21:58:39Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Remember when Obama was in Cuba and various loudmouth Republicans demanded he return to Washington in response to the attack in Brussels? > > Has there been a peep from any of them yet? > Or is this another (relatively minor) point of hypocrisy? IIRC they also blamed Obama for various European terrorist incidents. For some reason, they aren’t blaming Trump. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10232 "2017-08-17T22:00:24Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > The response will be, I predict, (as it’s a distinction without a moral difference), that threats #1 and #3 were for a presidential candidate, not a president. #2 will require a different type of weaseling though. [ol] [li]never happened[/li][li]never happened[/li][li]fake news[/li][li]just joking[/li][/ol] ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10233 "2017-08-17T22:15:08Z")
Been calling Cruz and Cornyn’s SA offices every other day or so with yet another reason why they should impeach Donald Trump. I’ve been doing this for a while and can say that the attitudes of the people answering have… softened… to this. However, the Cruz guy today got a little tense when I said “… and now he has associated the GOP, Lincoln’s party, with that of Hitler and the Nazis. Get rid of him for the good of the GOP.” ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10234 "2017-08-17T22:23:22Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > As long as she doesn’t interrupt his golf game… Wouldn’t matter - his score is predetermined. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10235 "2017-08-17T22:23:25Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > Okrahoma, is this close enough for you? > > [GOP Senator David Perdue Jokes About Praying for Obama’s Death](http://www.thedailybeast.com/gop-senator-david-perdue-jokes-about-praying-for-obamas-death) No I don’t think so. That could be interpreted several ways. One way would be die of natural causes. Second is leave office for another reason. The elected Democrat I am thinking of expressed the wish that Trump is assassinated. In those words. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10236 "2017-08-17T22:25:40Z")
Just as a li’l bit of info regarding the Trump family in general… In 1927, Donald Trump’s father was arrested after a Klan riot in Queens On Memorial Day 1927, brawls erupted in New York led by sympathizers of the Italian fascist movement and the Ku Klux Klan. In the fascist brawl, which took place in the Bronx, two Italian men were killed by anti-fascists. In Queens, 1,000 white-robed Klansmen marched through the Jamaica neighborhood, eventually spurring an all-out brawl in which seven men were arrested. One of those arrested was Fred Trump [Senior] of 175-24 Devonshire Rd. in Jamaica [New York]. > **[In 1927, Donald Trump’s father was arrested after a Klan riot in Queens](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/02/28/in-1927-donald-trumps-father-was-arrested-after-a-klan-riot-in-queens/)** > > On Sunday, Trump declined to disavow the support of white supremacists. What’s the quote about apples and how far they fall from the tree? Racism runs in that family. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10237 "2017-08-17T22:33:10Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > No I don’t think so. That could be interpreted several ways. One way would be die of natural causes. Second is leave office for another reason. > > The elected Democrat I am thinking of expressed the wish that Trump is assassinated. In those words. Twist, twist, twist. Spin, spin, spin. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10238 "2017-08-17T22:35:43Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > No I don’t think so. That could be interpreted several ways. One way would be die of natural causes. Second is leave office for another reason. > > The elected Democrat I am thinking of expressed the wish that Trump is assassinated. In those words. And since you’re pretending to be too stupid to [search for it.](http://freebeacon.com/politics/dem-missouri-state-sen-wishes-trumps-assassination/) > [@](#): > > A Democratic Missouri state senator wrote in a Facebook post that she hoped President Donald Trump would be assassinated, leading the Secret Service to investigate the matter. > > \*\*Top Democrats in Missouri condemned Chappelle-Nadal’s comments and called on her to resign her state legislative seat. > > “I condemn it,” U.S. Sen. Claire McCaskill (D., Mo.) said in a brief statement to the Post-Dispatch. “It’s outrageous. And she should resign.” > > Missouri Democratic Party chair Stephen Webber said that Chappelle-Nadal’s actions “are indefensible.”\*\* ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10239 "2017-08-17T22:36:17Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > What’s the quote about apples and how far they fall from the tree? > Racism runs in that family. I don’t care for that argument. Racism runs in my family. I had two grandfathers who were in the KKK, one of which most probably murdered black people. Let Trump’s own racism speak for itself. ---
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10240 "2017-08-17T22:49:08Z")
The Trump Slump kicks in! The S&P 500 posts biggest decline in three months on Washington worries: > **[Washington's mounting woes push S&P to biggest loss in three months](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-stocks-idUSKCN1AX1AM)** > > U.S. stocks sold off on Thursday, with the S&P 500 recording its biggest daily percentage drop in three months as escalating worries about the Trump administration's ability to push through its economic agenda rattled investors. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10241 "2017-08-17T22:56:28Z")
> [@AnalogSignal](#): > > The Trump Slump kicks in! > > The S&P 500 posts biggest decline in three months on Washington worries: > [https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-stocks-idUSKCN1AX1AM](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-stocks-idUSKCN1AX1AM) Same with the [Dow Jones.](https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/17/us-stocks-wal-mart-trump.html) > [@](#): > > The Dow Jones industrial average fell 274.14 points, or 1.2 percent, for its biggest drop since May 17, to close at 21,750.73. The index also snapped a four-day winning streak. Cisco Systems was the biggest decliner on the Dow after sales for one of its key segments rose less than expected. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10242 "2017-08-17T23:24:01Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > As long as she doesn’t interrupt his golf game… > [@simster](#): > > Wouldn’t matter - his score is predetermined. I have heard it seriously argued that what might turn the tide against Trump—what might push a lot of Republicans to the point of supporting impeachment—is Trump’s habits of cheating at golf and driving his cart over the green. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10243 "2017-08-17T23:35:50Z")
C’mon, Republicans. You’re rapidly running out of time to be able to jump ship and pretend that it was a principled stand rather than looking like the rat off a sinking ship that you are. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=511) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=513)