# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 513
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10244 "2017-08-17T23:44:31Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > What’s the quote about apples and how far they fall from the tree? The variant “turd” and “asshole” formulation seems more apropos. ---
**Author:** ![brossa](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brossa/32/3040_2.png) [@brossa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brossa)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10245 "2017-08-17T23:50:17Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > No I don’t think so. That could be interpreted several ways. One way would be die of natural causes. Second is leave office for another reason. > > The elected Democrat I am thinking of expressed the wish that Trump is assassinated. In those words. “Set thou a wicked man over him: and let Satan stand at his right hand. When he shall be judged, let him be condemned: and let his prayer become sin. **Let his days be few; _and_ let another take his office**. Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow. Let his children be continually vagabonds, and beg: let them seek their bread also out of their desolate places. Let the extortioner catch all that he hath; and let the strangers spoil his labour. Let there be none to extend mercy unto him: neither let there be any to favour his fatherless children. Let his posterity be cut off; and in the generation following let their name be blotted out.” Just to clear up the context of the quote for you. But you knew that already… ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10246 "2017-08-17T23:53:38Z")
Yes, in context there are zero alternative interpretations of that line. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10247 "2017-08-17T23:55:20Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Yes, in context there are zero alternative interpretations of that line. Yes, in context he wished him dead (although I still think he just liked the “let another take his office” part, because it is so apt). And no I didn’t “know it already” - I am not an expert on biblical psalms. Still not a wish for assassination of a President, like the recent Democratic State Senator’s. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10248 "2017-08-17T23:56:18Z")
While we’re on Biblical issues, it’s interesting to note that, while corporate CEOs are abandoning Trump in droves, his Evangelical advisors seem happy to hang around and bask in the glow of his white supremacism. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10249 "2017-08-17T23:57:42Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > While we’re on Biblical issues, it’s interesting to note that, while corporate CEOs are abandoning Trump in droves, his Evangelical advisors seem happy to hang around and bask in the glow of his white supremacism. Business of business and business of religion are two very different businesses. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10250 "2017-08-17T23:57:52Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Yes, in context he wished him dead (although I still think he just liked the “let another take his office” part). And no I didn’t “know it already” - I am not an expert on biblical psalms. > > Still not a wish for assassination of a President, like the recent Democratic State Senator’s. I actually don’t think that guy was saying he wanted Obama to die. But Trump’s comment about ‘‘2nd Amendment people’’ taking care of Hillary Clinton? Got any thoughts on that? ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10251 "2017-08-17T23:57:56Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > While we’re on Biblical issues, it’s interesting to note that, while corporate CEOs are abandoning Trump in droves, his Evangelical advisors seem happy to hang around and bask in the glow of his white supremacism. Sure, it wasn’t just his pussy grabbing that they admired. They like the whole package. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10252 "2017-08-17T23:59:09Z")
Is it okay for me to pray for Trump’s children to become vagabonds? Fine. I hope Barron seeks out bread in desolate places. See? Can’t fault me for anything. I’m just as nice and fair as a republican politician. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10253 "2017-08-18T00:01:05Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Sure, it wasn’t just his pussy grabbing that they admired. They like the whole package. Ya know, it’s not that hard, as a religious leader, to take a stand against such a blatant display of immorality. I have a good friend who is a socially conservative minister, and he has been set against Trump from the very beginning, on moral grounds. It’s actually possible to reject Trump’s disgusting behavior and still retain your conservative cred. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10254 "2017-08-18T00:05:55Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > I don’t care for that argument. Racism runs in my family. I had two grandfathers who were in the KKK, one of which most probably murdered black people. > > Let Trump’s own racism speak for itself. Well, sure, sins of the father and all that but… Trump, of course, lied about it. Said it never happened. It happened. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10255 "2017-08-18T00:06:24Z")
The only circumstances where I would actively wish for an assassination of an American President are, as I’ve said before, if this person attempted to declare Martial Law to extend their rule, stop elections, impeachments or other measures against them. In which case I would hope and pray that the Secret Service members on the scene would look at each other and put a bullet in his/her brain. I don’t even want Trump to die in office. That would be the easy way out. I want him to suffer the humiliation of impeachment and imprisonment for his many crimes. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10256 "2017-08-18T00:08:21Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Well, sure, sins of the father and all that but… > > Trump, of course, lied about it. Said it never happened. It happened. Yeah. That is telling. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10257 "2017-08-18T00:08:38Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > I actually don’t think that guy was saying he wanted Obama to die. > > But Trump’s comment about ‘‘2nd Amendment people’’ taking care of Hillary Clinton? Got any thoughts on that? “2nd Amendment people” took care of Hillary. She’s a has been loser. Due to a lot of the “2nd Amendment people”. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10258 "2017-08-18T00:14:25Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > “2nd Amendment people” took care of Hillary. She’s a has been loser. Due to a lot of the “2nd Amendment people”. You’re rather clueless as to which amendment is the 2nd. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10259 "2017-08-18T00:15:39Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > > [@Spice Weasel](#): > > > > But Trump’s comment about ‘‘2nd Amendment people’’ taking care of Hillary Clinton? Got any thoughts on that? > > “2nd Amendment people” took care of Hillary. She’s a has been loser. Due to a lot of the “2nd Amendment people”. So… no, then. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10260 "2017-08-18T00:22:44Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > “2nd Amendment people” took care of Hillary. She’s a has been loser. Due to a lot of the “2nd Amendment people”. K. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10261 "2017-08-18T00:23:22Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > I have heard it seriously argued that what might turn the tide against Trump—what might push a lot of Republicans to the point of supporting impeachment—is Trump’s habits of cheating at golf and driving his cart over the green. ah, so they have _some_ standards :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10262 "2017-08-18T00:34:40Z")
Oh gosh, it seems the Israelis are starting to get uncomfortable with their good friend Trump and his cozying up to Nazis. > **[Anger over Netanyahu silence on Trump and Charlottesville](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-40966720)** > > Israeli politicians and press decry Donald Trump's remarks on Charlottesville's violent protests. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10263 "2017-08-18T00:48:04Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Oh gosh, it seems the Israelis are starting to get uncomfortable with their good friend Trump and his cozying up to Nazis. > > [Anger over Netanyahu silence on Trump and Charlottesville](http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-40966720) Some of them, at least. What’s Hebrew for “basket of deplorables”? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=512) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=514)