# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Anny\_Middon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Anny\_Middon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anny_Middon)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10324 "2017-08-18T16:52:16Z")

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The New York Times had an article that someone on my Facebook feed posted. I’m not at my computer, so no link but I can post one later if anyone is interested.

According to the article there’s a town in Germany that was bothered by an annual march of neo-Nazis. Protesting it didn’t help, so they decided on another tack.

First they turned the march into a mock sporting event, painting “Start” and “Finish Line” on the street. They put up mocking signs along the route. They doused the first across the line with multi-colored confetti.

Most importantly, they turned it into a fundraiser for an anti-Nazi group. People pledged money for each meter of the race, much like fundraising walks for charity. At the end of the “course” they put up a sign thanking the “racers” for helping to raise $x for the cause.

I think this is totally doable here. If a white supremacist march is expected to draw 1000 hate-filled idiots, I’d happily donate a small sum per idiot to, say, the Southern Poverty Law Center. If each scumbag marching found out that his very presence raised another chunk of money for the SPLC, I suspect that some might decide that maybe the march was counter-productive.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10325 "2017-08-18T16:52:42Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> And you’re right!

[Yup](http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/steve-bannon-white-house-chief-strategist/story?id=49295772). Bannon out.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10326 "2017-08-18T17:17:57Z")

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> The Cleveland Clinic, the American Cancer Society and American Friends of Magen David Adom have all axed plans for galas at Trump’s private Mar-a-Lago club.
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> It will be the first time in eight years that the Cleveland Clinic has not held its fundraiser at the resort in South Florida, which Trump has dubbed the Winter White House.

This will probably bother Trump more than all the other news spinning out of control.

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**Author:** ![computergeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e56c9b/32.png) [@computergeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/computergeek)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10327 "2017-08-18T17:25:20Z")

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Did Bannon have a security clearance? If so, how the hell did he get one given he espouses to take down the administrative state?

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10328 "2017-08-18T17:29:11Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> [Yup](http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/steve-bannon-white-house-chief-strategist/story?id=49295772). Bannon out.

Interesting that it is effective 8/14 - so the last interview he gave was as a private, non-affiliated citizen.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10329 "2017-08-18T17:37:56Z")

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Now we’ll see if Bannon was the one putting words in Donald’s mouth.

He’s supposedly heading back to Breitbart. Will he change his tune, reflecting all the hard lessons he learned about Trump, or is he unrepentant? I like to think there’s hope for everybody, but it’s so easy for him to portray how he’s been targeted by all the backlash masterminded by the Deep State.

Good fucking riddance.

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**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10330 "2017-08-18T17:41:15Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> Now we’ll see if Bannon was the one putting words in Donald’s mouth.
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> He’s supposedly heading back to Breitbart. …

Which means he can still put words in Donald’s mouth. I guess at least we’ll see it happen.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10331 "2017-08-18T17:42:43Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Bannon is likely [out soon](https://www.axios.com/white-house-review-nears-end-officials-expect-bannon-firing-2474443198.html) (though we’ve heard this before). But, CNBC reporting that he is not on Air Force One as it heads to Camp David right now.

I find it fascinating/hilarious/scary how leaky this White House is. They’re incapable of having a private conversation, apparently. I look forward to reading Kellyanne Conway’s annual performance appraisal.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10332 "2017-08-18T17:53:13Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> I do give up. I can’t fix this. I don’t even understand what’s happening. This is the kind of shit that makes you question who you are.

Yeah, give up on trying to fix the deplorables. They ain’t gonna get fixed.

But you sure can help get out the vote for the other side, in the states where it counts. Trump lost the popular vote, and won a few key states that put him over the top in the electoral college by a whisker. A hundred thousand different votes in a few states and we’d barely remember his name by now.

The real battle is 2018. Representatives. Senators. Governors. State houses. And while the deplorables are loving Trump’s antics, the swing voters surely aren’t. Are they going to vote against the Republicans this time, or are they going to figure that their particular hometown Republican hero has nothing to do with Trump?

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**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10333 "2017-08-18T17:58:39Z")

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The big questions in my mind about Bannon are: how will he behave now that he’s on the outside? Will he be a disgruntled former employee who causes trouble for Trump, or an unleashed Trump partisan, or some other thing I’m too sane to imagine?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10334 "2017-08-18T18:11:13Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Bannon is likely [out soon](https://www.axios.com/white-house-review-nears-end-officials-expect-bannon-firing-2474443198.html) (though we’ve heard this before). But, CNBC reporting that he is not on Air Force One as it heads to Camp David right now.

Wait. Why is Trump going to Camp David? Isn’t it beneath him?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10335 "2017-08-18T18:14:44Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Wait. Why is Trump going to Camp David? Isn’t it beneath him?

Until the helicopter lands.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10336 "2017-08-18T18:15:37Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Until the helicopter lands.

I’m laughing and booing at the same time.

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**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10337 "2017-08-18T18:15:44Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Wait. Why is Trump going to Camp David? Isn’t it beneath him?

Yeah, it’s such a dump. No gold leaf or fake marble anywhere.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10338 "2017-08-18T18:16:41Z")

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Should be [fun](https://theweek.com/speedreads/719343/bannon-now-reportedly-ramping-war-against-trump).  
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“New York reporter Gabriel Sherman said Bannon is expected to return to Breitbart, the far-right news website he helmed before joining the White House. Not only that, however, but Sherman also reported that Bannon is “ramping up for war” against President Trump now that he’s been fired”\*

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**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10339 "2017-08-18T18:20:33Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Wait. Why is Trump going to Camp David? Isn’t it beneath him?

Is this a vacation from his vacation? The seventeen days aren’t over, are they?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10340 "2017-08-18T18:24:49Z")

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16 of the 17 members of the Presidential Committee on the Arts and Humanities have resigned _en masse_.

[http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/white-house-arts-panel-quits-trump-protest](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/white-house-arts-panel-quits-trump-protest)

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**Author:** ![Evin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/59ef9b/32.png) [@Evin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evin)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10341 "2017-08-18T18:45:32Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> 16 of the 17 members of the Presidential Committee on the Arts and Humanities have resigned _en masse_.
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> [Members Of White House Arts Panel Resign En Masse To Protest Trump - TPM – Talking Points Memo](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/white-house-arts-panel-quits-trump-protest)

The resignation letter is an acrostic. The first letter of each paragraph combine to spell “RESIST.”

Intentional or not, I don’t know.

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10342 "2017-08-18T18:46:41Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> [Yup](http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/steve-bannon-white-house-chief-strategist/story?id=49295772). Bannon out.

Hmm, Good news when a competent Nazi hits the road and lands on his gin blossom.

But I really wish I knew more about Kelly. He has gone from peripheral extra, to among the few most powerful people in the world, in a matter of weeks without really revealing much of anything.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10343 "2017-08-18T18:50:53Z")

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> [@Evin](#):
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> The resignation letter is an acrostic. The first letter of each paragraph combine to spell “RESIST.”
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> Intentional or not, I don’t know.

Nice. I’d say pretty clearly intentional, especially coming from them.

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