# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 521
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2017, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10404 "2017-08-19T02:36:51Z")
> [@steatopygia](#): > > Nope. The dope at the top hasn’t a fucking clue. There is no 3D chess, there is no secret plan. If so he would have worked with congress to fuck the 98%. He is too stupid and too much of an asshole to do much of anything, even with the complete Republican control of the government that he was given. I’m not necessarily saying it’s Trump’s plan, but Bannon’s. Something just smells off this time around. It doesn’t feel like the other firings. If he comes guns ablazing against Trump on Breitbart, then I’m wrong, but I really don’t think that’s gonna happen (although I hope to god it does.) ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2017, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10405 "2017-08-19T02:38:54Z")
> [@River\_Hippie](#): > > This whole shitshow would be hilarious if it wasn’t the country I love sinking into a tar pit of corruption and incompetency. I agree though, Two Scoops getting nothing done is better than an evil but competent Pence actually accomplishing things. I think he’s accomplishing a breakdown of societal and presidential norms. The things Pence would do could be undone. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2017, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10406 "2017-08-19T02:39:51Z")
I keep asking why the fuck I’ve been cursed to live in interesting times. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2017, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10407 "2017-08-19T02:43:21Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > I keep asking why the fuck I’ve been cursed to live in interesting times. _puts down 50 Favorite Curses and How to Cast Them_ Um, sorry about that. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2017, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10408 "2017-08-19T02:50:15Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > I keep asking why the fuck I’ve been cursed to live in interesting times. It is the Summer of Hate… ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2017, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10409 "2017-08-19T02:51:11Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Out of the frying pan and into the fire? > > No thanks. > > I prefer the Incompetent Orange Menace remain in office if the alternative is going to be that homophobic Jesus freak. I agree, but worry. Sometimes you just have to flip the next card. A statement must be made that we will not have this. ---
**Author:** ![Anny\_Middon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Anny\_Middon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anny_Middon)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2017, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10410 "2017-08-19T03:36:06Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > I’m not necessarily saying it’s Trump’s plan, but Bannon’s. Something just smells off this time around. It doesn’t feel like the other firings. If he comes guns ablazing against Trump on Breitbart, then I’m wrong, but I really don’t think that’s gonna happen (although I hope to god it does.) I’m with you on this, **pulykamell**. For all his Breitbart colleagues are claiming they’re pissed off, Bannon himself said he’s going to war against Trump’s enemies. But speaking of stuff that smells off, what’s really going on with this Camp David meeting? It’s supposed to be about Afghanistan with some speculation that they’re going to turn it all over to whatever-the-fuck-Blackwater-is-called these days. If so, why did Pence have to cut short his trip and cancel a couple of stateside events to attend? Does the VP really have to be present at the thing? Or is this meeting really about something else? For that matter, what Executive branch decisions need the presence of the VP? I know it’s farfetched but I’m wondering if this isn’t some weird “hand over the reins of power” thing. Because then Bannon’s departure might have other reasons. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2017, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10411 "2017-08-19T04:02:14Z")
> [@Anny\_Middon](#): > > I’m with you on this, **pulykamell**. For all his Breitbart colleagues are claiming they’re pissed off, Bannon himself said he’s going to war against Trump’s enemies. > > But speaking of stuff that smells off, what’s really going on with this Camp David meeting? It’s supposed to be about Afghanistan with some speculation that they’re going to turn it all over to whatever-the-fuck-Blackwater-is-called these days. If so, why did Pence have to cut short his trip and cancel a couple of stateside events to attend? Does the VP really have to be present at the thing? Or is this meeting really about something else? > > For that matter, what Executive branch decisions need the presence of the VP? > > I know it’s farfetched but I’m wondering if this isn’t some weird “hand over the reins of power” thing. Because then Bannon’s departure might have other reasons. After Bannon was gone, Eric Prince was disinvited to the meeting. So I guess we’re not on the road to extreme-profit-war-making yet. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2017, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10412 "2017-08-19T04:16:52Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > I keep asking why the fuck I’ve been cursed to live in interesting times. 😃 😃 Awesome. Permission to steal? ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2017, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10413 "2017-08-19T04:19:04Z")
> [@Anny\_Middon](#): > > \But speaking of stuff that smells off, what’s really going on with this Camp David meeting? \ It’s. Just. Another. Vacation. That’s what he does. He allows things to crumble to pieces and runs away. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2017, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10414 "2017-08-19T04:44:46Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Out of the frying pan and into the fire? > > No thanks. > > I prefer the Incompetent Orange Menace remain in office if the alternative is going to be that homophobic Jesus freak. Painful it might be to say this, if the former has the temperament of a wet cat who’s probably, oh, seven trillion times more untrustworthy with the nuclear codes, I think I might have to mordantly resign with the latter. ::icky gross blech bluuuu-eck spit splat blah bleggg:: ---
**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2017, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10415 "2017-08-19T05:14:02Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Wanna bet??? > > [https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/08/10/in-a-new-poll-half-of-republicans-say-they-would-support-postponing-the-2020-election-if-trump-proposed-it/?utm\_term=.b69f02d08e50](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/08/10/in-a-new-poll-half-of-republicans-say-they-would-support-postponing-the-2020-election-if-trump-proposed-it/?utm_term=.b69f02d08e50) > > In a new poll, half of Republicans say they would support postponing the 2020 election if Trump proposed it > > Critics of President Trump have repeatedly warned of his potential to undermine American democracy. Among the concerns are his repeated assertions that he would have won the popular vote had 3 to 5 million “illegals” not voted in the 2016 election, a claim echoed by the head of a White House advisory committee on voter fraud. > > Claims of large-scale voter fraud are not true, but that has not stopped a substantial number of Republicans from believing them. But how far would Republicans be willing to follow the president to stop what they perceive as rampant fraud? Our recent survey suggests that the answer is quite far: **About half of Republicans say they would support postponing the 2020 presidential election** until the country can fix this problem. The DJT train moves so fast that it is just one outrage after another but… In what world is “Would you support postponing the election?” any kind of question that would be asked? In America? I am starting to think that Trump voters have to answer for their actions. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2017, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10416 "2017-08-19T05:21:43Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > … serving the **al-right** agenda … This is one of the better typos. الحق ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2017, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10417 "2017-08-19T05:23:39Z")
[_Three Men and a Baby_](http://i.imgur.com/WXaKJQT.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2017, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10418 "2017-08-19T05:33:42Z")
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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2017, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10419 "2017-08-19T06:11:37Z")
Robert Costa of the Washington Post/Washington Week was on PBS Newshour tonight talking about today’s departure of that ginblossom-y sack of bilious carrion puke: mentioning Kelly’s new system of order, the alarm in Bannon’s crowd that the WH is moving in a centrist direction, SB taking too much credit away from Trump during last year’s election campaign (DT was frustrated that Bannon’s profile got too high), starting a new media venture with with that cagey Mercer fuck, and that although SB knew he was on thin ice for quite some time, he was able to maintain his power because “…he was an echo of Trump’s instincts…he was with President Trump in spirit - that’s why he remained for so long.” (RC) And it was for that final reason, RC said, why that dissolute, evil bastard didn’t get sacked as soon as the others did, and _not_ because of any influence he might have had. I’m a little :dubious: about that final contention, considering that I’d bet you many double-secret-cyanide pills that it was Bannon who [counselled](https://giphy.com/gifs/harry-styles-homer-simpson-brooke-shields-11qEg72BztRFGE) DT to double-down on his Charlottesville _bon mots_, prompting what surely would’ve been a woodshed tour courtesy one Mr. Kelly. RC said he was getting everything from insiders, so I’m not gonna go leg-rassle him over that one. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2017, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10420 "2017-08-19T11:17:54Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > …but I suspect Bannon is better serving the al-right agenda… …as first espoused in the 1993 Linklater film _Dazed and Confused_… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2017, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10421 "2017-08-19T13:03:13Z")
That’s the thing I love about partisan politics, man - I get older, but the emotional age remains the same. Just Keep Feelin’. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2017, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10422 "2017-08-19T13:05:30Z")
> [@gigobuster](#): > > it is the summer of hate… ☹ > [@](#): > > i’m not necessarily saying it’s trump’s plan, but bannon’s. Something just smells off this time around. It doesn’t feel like the other firings. If he comes guns ablazing against trump on breitbart, then i’m wrong, but i really don’t think that’s gonna happen (although i hope to god it does.) +1 ---
**Author:** ![Anny\_Middon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Anny\_Middon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anny_Middon)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2017, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10423 "2017-08-19T14:24:13Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > It is the Summer of Hate… This ain’t the garden of Eden There ain’t no angels above And things ain’t like what they used to be And this ain’t the summer of love [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=520) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=522)