# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2017, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10444 "2017-08-20T20:03:16Z")

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2017, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10445 "2017-08-20T20:19:59Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Well, that’s very good to hear. I wouldn’t have predicted it, but am pleased to have been wrong.
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> The one positive about this whole debacle is that we’re finding out that the right is not monolithic–it contains many people who are willing to stand up against ‘one of their own’ and reclaim the values of decency and community.

Well, I’m not sure how much to make of this, but may be that some evangelicals are coming round to the realization that they were played like violins during recent Presidential campaign. If so, good.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2017, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10446 "2017-08-20T21:34:57Z")

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Voter fraud. Bwahahahahh.

By whom? Trumps Russian connections? Perhaps Mueller will find out.

Dumb fuck 45 should be careful about what he wishes for.

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2017, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10447 "2017-08-20T22:26:47Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Well, that’s very good to hear. I wouldn’t have predicted it, but am pleased to have been wrong.
> 
> The one positive about this whole debacle is that we’re finding out that the right is not monolithic–it contains many people who are willing to stand up against ‘one of their own’ and reclaim the values of decency and community.

I wouldn’t agree with their policy priorities, but there was a significant faction at Liberty U that was vocally anti-Trump in the campaign when you were hard-pressed to find many in the high levels of the Christian establishment who came out against them, recognizing him for the hypocritical hedonist that he is. So they walk the walk and not just talk the talk.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10448 "2017-08-21T02:35:43Z")

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So apparently Trump is going to be making a speech tomorrow, allegedly about war plans. I don’t know the time, but it’s likely it will be in the middle of the eclipse, because it’s always all about him.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10449 "2017-08-21T02:57:26Z")

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Trump’s response to the collision of the “USS John C. McCain”, with ten sailors missing and five injured? “That’s too bad.”

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10450 "2017-08-21T03:13:55Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Trump’s response to the collision of the “USS John C. McCain”, with ten sailors missing and five injured? “That’s too bad.”

At least he didn’t say “I prefer ships that don’t collide.”

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10451 "2017-08-21T04:51:43Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Trump’s response to the collision of the “USS John C. McCain”, with ten sailors missing and five injured? “That’s too bad.”

He’s not going to feel sorry for _anything_ carrying that name.

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10452 "2017-08-21T05:05:23Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Trump’s response to the collision of the “USS John C. McCain”, with ten sailors missing and five injured? “That’s too bad.”

> [@running\_coach](#):
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> At least he didn’t say “I prefer ships that don’t collide.”

and not named after people who get captured.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10453 "2017-08-21T05:15:05Z")

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> [@jasg](#):
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> and not named after people who get captured.

Actually, father and grandfather of the Senator.  
[USS John S. McCain](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_John_S._McCain_(DDG-56))

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> This warship is named after **John S. McCain, Sr., and John S. McCain, Jr., both Admirals in the United States Navy.** John S. McCain, Sr., commanded the aircraft carrier USS Ranger, and acted as commander of the Fast Carrier Task Force during the latter stages of World War II. John S. McCain, Jr., commanded the U.S. Navy submarines USS Gunnel and USS Dentuda during World War II. Subsequently, he held a number of posts, rising to Commander-in-Chief of the United States Pacific Command before retiring in 1972. **These men were the grandfather and father of Senator John S. McCain III**.

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10454 "2017-08-21T05:50:11Z")

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Yeah, I knew that but does theDonald?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10455 "2017-08-21T12:44:10Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Trump’s response to the collision of the “USS John C. McCain”, with ten sailors missing and five injured? “That’s too bad.”

[Good grief](https://uk.news.yahoo.com/trump-says-too-bad-crash-085015428.html). I thought (hoped) you were joking.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10456 "2017-08-21T12:49:09Z")

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Maybe he’ll invite their widows to the White House and serve them one scoop of ice cream and watch him eat two.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10457 "2017-08-21T13:32:56Z")

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Didn’t catch the name but this morning I heard a politician from Illinois complaining that Trump isn’t fulfilling his campaign promises. What stuck in my mind is that her hard-working Midwesterners are quite surprised their guy would _in good conscience_ treat them like flyover country by working against their interests.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10458 "2017-08-21T13:46:06Z")

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Come to think of it, I’m not sure that was an Illinois politician. Might’ve been Indiana.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10459 "2017-08-21T13:50:04Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Come to think of it, I’m not sure that was an Illinois politician. Might’ve been Indiana.

Same thing.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10460 "2017-08-21T13:50:34Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> [Good grief](https://uk.news.yahoo.com/trump-says-too-bad-crash-085015428.html). I thought (hoped) you were joking.

I was going to see if I could come up with positive spin on this, and the best I can do is that he may not have known of the collision yet (why not?) and that there were missing hadn’t been announced yet (so maybe he knew but was allowing the announcement to be made through proper channels (I’m killing myself here :D).).

But even that means that at best he is incapable of displaying on the fly empathy, which isn’t surprising.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10461 "2017-08-21T13:55:56Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Same thing.

Yeah, I guess they’re both pretty blue now. 😃

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10462 "2017-08-21T13:59:53Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> I was going to see if I could come up with positive spin on this, and the best I can do is that he may not have known of the collision yet (why not?) and that there were missing hadn’t been announced yet (so maybe he knew but was allowing the announcement to be made through proper channels (I’m killing myself here :D).).
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> But even that means that at best he is incapable of displaying on the fly empathy, which isn’t surprising.

Later, he might tweet a more gracious message after Melania composes it for him. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10463 "2017-08-21T14:06:07Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Later, he might tweet a more gracious message after **Melania composes it for him**. :rolleyes:

Someone else said it first and better.

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