# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10464 "2017-08-21T14:17:44Z")

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[Donald Trump suggests Jews might secretly be committing anti-Semitic hate crimes on themselves so he looks bad](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-jews-anti-semitic-hate-crimes-false-flag-reverse-david-duke-kkk-ku-klux-klan-a7604801.html) ‘The comments echoed similar ones by David Duke, the head of the Ku Klux Klan, just hours before.’

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> After days in which he refused to comment on a spate of anti-Semitic attacks, Mr Trump broke his silence to repeat an neo-Nazi conspiracy theory that has claimed that the attacks are “false flags”. Supporters of that belief – who include leader of the Ku Klux Klan, David Duke – believe that such attacks are being perpetrated by Jewish people in order to undermine the White House…
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> [Pennsylvania’s Attorney General, Josh Shapiro] Mr Trump [called] the threats “reprehensible”, but then added that, “sometimes it’s the reverse, to make people or to make others look bad.” Mr Shapiro said that he had repeated the word “reverse” a number of times, stressing that the attacks might be perpetuated by Jewish people.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10465 "2017-08-21T14:22:59Z")

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[Secret Service depletes funds to pay agents because of Trump’s frequent travel, large family](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/08/21/secret-service-cant-pay-agents-because-trumps-frequent-travel-large-family/529075001/)

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> Secret Service Director Randolph "Tex’’ Alles… said more than 1,000 agents have already hit the federally mandated caps for salary and overtime allowances that were meant to last the entire year…
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> "The president has a large family, and our responsibility is required in law,‘’ Alles said. "I can’t change that. I have no flexibility.‘’ …
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> But even if such a proposal [to raise the combined salary and overtime cap for agents] was approved, about 130 veteran agents would not be fully compensated for hundreds of hours already amassed, according to the agency.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10466 "2017-08-21T14:32:15Z")

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My god, a pastor was just on 1A (NPR) talking about how great Trump’s personal relationship is with God and how when he said he didn’t ever ask God for forgiveness it’s because he didn’t JUST ask God for forgiveness but made things right.

He’s on the evangelical council.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10467 "2017-08-21T14:32:37Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> [Secret Service depletes funds to pay agents because of Trump’s frequent travel, large family](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/08/21/secret-service-cant-pay-agents-because-trumps-frequent-travel-large-family/529075001/)

So much winning, 'Merica.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10468 "2017-08-21T14:49:58Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> So much winning, 'Merica.

It’s how Loser Donald ‘wins’. He has a well-documented history of not paying people who work for him. (Granted, Congress holds the purse strings; but the majority are members of Loser Donnie’s party.)

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10469 "2017-08-21T15:07:15Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Someone else said it first and better.

Thank you for taking the time to post that extremely helpful message.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10470 "2017-08-21T15:15:57Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Thank you for taking the time to post that extremely helpful message.

Notice what I bolded. I was referencing her previous theft of others’ words.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10471 "2017-08-21T15:22:08Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Notice what I bolded. I was referencing her previous theft of others’ words.

Without this explanation, I wouldn’t have understood your intent, either.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10472 "2017-08-21T15:34:45Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Come to think of it, I’m not sure that was an Illinois politician. Might’ve been Indiana.

Whatever. Six o’ this, half dozen …

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10473 "2017-08-21T15:36:04Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Later, he might tweet a more gracious message after Melania composes it for him. :rolleyes:

and then follow with yet another tweet, even worse than the first one?

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**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10474 "2017-08-21T15:46:35Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> My god, a pastor was just on 1A (NPR) talking about how great Trump’s personal relationship is with God and how when he said he didn’t ever ask God for forgiveness it’s because he didn’t JUST ask God for forgiveness but made things right.
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> He’s on the evangelical council.

I must reiterate that the affection of some of the religious leaders for Trump has entirely baffled me. I get that some think he will move the ball down the field on some of their issues. But others talk like he is a model of their version of a good Christian. WTF?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10475 "2017-08-21T15:54:52Z")

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Because they think he’ll nominate judges who can be counted upon to stop the baby-killing and get the gays out of their faces, apparently. That’s what it all seems to amount to.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10476 "2017-08-21T15:57:41Z")

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> [@Icarus](#):
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> I must reiterate that the affection of some of the religious leaders for Trump has entirely baffled me. I get that some think he will move the ball down the field on some of their issues. But others talk like he is a model of their version of a good Christian. WTF?

For some, Trump IS their model of a good Christian;

-Rips off others to enrich himself  
-Lives in ostentatious wealth  
-Pays lip service to Christianity and pretends to believe all that crap

This is what they themselves do, so they know that he is one of them.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10477 "2017-08-21T16:00:14Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Later, he might tweet a more gracious message after Melania composes it for him. :rolleyes:

> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Someone else said it first and better.

> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Thank you for taking the time to post that extremely helpful message.

> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Notice what I bolded. I was referencing her previous theft of others’ words.

> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Without this explanation, I wouldn’t have understood your intent, either.

FWIW, I got it, **coach**.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10478 "2017-08-21T16:08:52Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Same thing.

Not the same. Trump got his ass kicked in Illinois. Indiana is the State where Pence established his religious bigotry law.

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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10479 "2017-08-21T16:14:52Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Because they think he’ll nominate judges who can be counted upon to stop the baby-killing and get the gays out of their faces, apparently. That’s what it all seems to amount to.

Yeah, that’s my take on the situation, as well.

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10480 "2017-08-21T17:17:05Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Notice what I bolded. I was referencing her previous theft of others’ words.

I understood you perfectly. But I would have mentioned Melinia looking up what Michelle Obama had said before writing for 45.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10481 "2017-08-21T17:34:05Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Notice what I bolded. I was referencing her previous theft of others’ words.

You would have no way of knowing this, but between my computer screen and my crappy eyesight, bold doesn’t show up well on my screen, which is why I’ve started underlining when I want to emphasize.

> [@BigAppleBucky](#):
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> I understood you perfectly. But I would have mentioned Melinia looking up what Michelle Obama had said before writing for 45.

Indeed. This would have headed off a misunderstanding and kept me from crying my eyes out.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10482 "2017-08-21T17:37:50Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> You would have no way of knowing this, but between my computer screen and my crappy eyesight, bold doesn’t show up well on my screen, which is why I’ve started underlining when I want to emphasize.
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> Indeed. This would have headed off a misunderstanding and kept me from crying my eyes out.

Sorry. My bad on the phrasing.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10483 "2017-08-21T17:40:44Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Sorry. My bad on the phrasing.

It was a great (and funny) comment. I’m pretending I’m reading it for the first time and laughing my ass off. 😃

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