# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10484 "2017-08-21T18:30:54Z")

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Anyone read the excellent New Yorker article on Trump’s superhero, Carl Icahn? It’s a jaw-dropping read. I don’t have a clue how anyone thinks Trump is in office to help the common man. :smack:

> **[Carl Icahn’s Failed Raid on Washington](https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/08/28/carl-icahns-failed-raid-on-washington)**
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> Was President Trump’s richest adviser focussed on helping the country—or his own bottom line?

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**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10485 "2017-08-21T19:10:40Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Donald Trump suggests Jews might secretly be committing anti-Semitic hate crimes on themselves so he looks bad ‘The comments echoed similar ones by David Duke, the head of the Ku Klux Klan, just hours before.’

If this is true and those were false flags it means just one thing.  
Those nephew-nazis are just as incompetent and ineffective as Trump himself.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10486 "2017-08-21T22:03:35Z")

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> [@MovieMogul](#):
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> I wouldn’t agree with their policy priorities, but there was a significant faction at Liberty U that was vocally anti-Trump in the campaign when you were hard-pressed to find many in the high levels of the Christian establishment who came out against them, recognizing him for the hypocritical hedonist that he is. So they walk the walk and not just talk the talk.

Interesting–thanks for posting that. Makes me reexamine my assumptions, which is always a good thing to do. 🙂

> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> So apparently Trump is going to be making a speech tomorrow, allegedly about war plans. I don’t know the time, but it’s likely it will be in the middle of the eclipse, because it’s always all about him.

CNN has been talking for days about their upcoming broadcast of a 9pm ‘town hall’ with Paul Ryan, for Monday 21 August.

So naturally Trump decides to make a speech to the nation at…9pm, Monday, 21 August.

Not a coincidence, I would suspect; Trump really is that petty and vindictive.

> [@Folacin](#):
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> I was going to see if I could come up with positive spin on this, and the best I can do is that he may not have known of the collision yet (why not?) and that there were missing hadn’t been announced yet (so maybe he knew but was allowing the announcement to be made through proper channels (I’m killing myself here :D).).  
> But even that means that at best he is incapable of displaying on the fly empathy, which isn’t surprising.

I hear that Breitbart is seriously trying to spin the “that’s too bad” comment as being McMaster’s fault. Somehow, McMaster acquired control of Trump’s mouth and made him say that. Because merely ‘failing to brief’ Trump can’t be the answer–an unbriefed Trump could still have said something other than “that’s too bad.” (Maybe “terrible news, and I’ll have more to say shortly” or such.)

Searching, I do find Breitbart as the second hit on this Google Search page—I don’t want to post a link to Breitbart itself:

[https://www.google.com/search?as\_q=blame+McMaster+sailors+lost+Trump&as\_epq=&as\_oq=&as\_eq=&as\_nlo=&as\_nhi=&lr=&cr=&as\_qdr=all&as\_sitesearch=&as\_occt=any&safe=images&as\_filetype=&as\_rights=](https://www.google.com/search?as_q=blame+McMaster+sailors+lost+Trump&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&lr=&cr=&as_qdr=all&as_sitesearch=&as_occt=any&safe=images&as_filetype=&as_rights=)

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10487 "2017-08-21T22:12:03Z")

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> [@SaneBill](#):
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> If this is true and those were false flags it means just one thing.  
> Those nephew-nazis are just as incompetent and ineffective as Trump himself.

That tells me Resident Chump is getting his news from InfoWars’ Alex Jones. He has been selling that false flag shit pretty hard.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10488 "2017-08-21T22:25:02Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> CNN has been talking for days about their upcoming broadcast of a 9pm ‘town hall’ with Paul Ryan, for Monday 21 August.
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> So naturally Trump decides to make a speech to the nation at…9pm, Monday, 21 August.
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> Not a coincidence, I would suspect; Trump really is that petty and vindictive.

I’d rather watch The Static Channel.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10489 "2017-08-21T22:48:41Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> I’d rather watch The Static Channel.

Mmm. Static.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10490 "2017-08-21T23:26:04Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> I’d rather watch The Static Channel.

I’ll be watching Preacher. Pretty interesting. Weird, but interesting.

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10491 "2017-08-21T23:52:32Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> I’d rather watch The Static Channel.

I’ve recently been watching Static Shock. Not bad, for a several-years-old cartoon.

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**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2017, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10492 "2017-08-22T00:49:19Z")

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> [@Icarus](#):
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> I must reiterate that the affection of some of the religious leaders for Trump has entirely baffled me. I get that some think he will move the ball down the field on some of their issues. But others talk like he is a model of their version of a good Christian. WTF?

You need to realize that Christian Conservatives are not united by their love of Jesus Christ. They are united by tribalism, and by their perceived threat from liberals and Muslims. Political correctness, gay rights, abortion, immigration, etc - they see all those as attacks on Christianity. To them, “religious freedom” means the right to assert their bigotry (e.g. refusing to participate in gay weddings, or not even baking a cake for them.). Trump is the perfect representative of this group.

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**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2017, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10493 "2017-08-22T00:54:51Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> Mmm. Static.

Only if it’s good old analog static. Can’t stand the new digital stuff.

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2017, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10494 "2017-08-22T01:10:20Z")

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> [@scr4](#):
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> Only if it’s good old analog static. Can’t stand the new digital stuff.

_“The sky above the port was the color of television, tuned to a dead channel.”_

― William Gibson, Neuromancer  
When that was written, the sky would’ve been grey. Nowadays it’d be a blue sky…

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2017, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10495 "2017-08-22T01:29:47Z")

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[First look inside the newly redecorated Oval Office.](http://static.politico.com/24/25/48e16bcf438ebf15c7790c6b5ea1/img-0666.JPG)

Gold on gold on gold. With gold accents. :rolleyes:

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2017, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10496 "2017-08-22T01:32:41Z")

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_shrug_ What do you expect from a parvenu?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2017, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10497 "2017-08-22T01:34:47Z")

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From _The New Yorker’s_ Andy Borowitz. Encouraging news.

[Trump’s Horrific Spelling Reassures Nation That He Cannot Correctly Enter Nuclear Codes](https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trumps-horrific-spelling-reassures-nation-that-he-cannot-correctly-enter-nuclear-codes)

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> WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—Donald J. Trump’s demonstrable inability to spell even the simplest words has reassured many that he lacks the aptitude to correctly enter the nuclear launch codes entrusted to the President of the United States.
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> While millions of Americans have lost sleep over the thought of Trump being anywhere near the nuclear codes, his failure to spell such words as “heal” and “tap” suggests that mastering a more complicated sequence of letters or numbers would be well above his grade level…

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2017, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10498 "2017-08-22T01:39:35Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> [First look inside the newly redecorated Oval Office.](http://static.politico.com/24/25/48e16bcf438ebf15c7790c6b5ea1/img-0666.JPG)
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> Gold on gold on gold. With gold accents. :rolleyes:

It looks like something out of the 70s.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2017, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10499 "2017-08-22T01:40:10Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> [First look inside the newly redecorated Oval Office.](http://static.politico.com/24/25/48e16bcf438ebf15c7790c6b5ea1/img-0666.JPG)
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> Gold on gold on gold. With gold accents. :rolleyes:

Trump’s [new personal secretary.](http://cdn.collider.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/guardians-of-the-galaxy-2-image-ayesha-social.jpg)

😃

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2017, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10500 "2017-08-22T01:43:19Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> From _The New Yorker’s_ Andy Borowitz. Encouraging news.
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> [Trump’s Horrific Spelling Reassures Nation That He Cannot Correctly Enter Nuclear Codes](https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trumps-horrific-spelling-reassures-nation-that-he-cannot-correctly-enter-nuclear-codes)

No problem, he can declassify _anything_. Barron can punch in the codes.

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2017, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10501 "2017-08-22T01:43:37Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> It looks like something out of the 70s.

It looks like the waiting area for a whorehouse. Not that I would know anything about that…

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2017, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10502 "2017-08-22T01:58:28Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> [First look inside the newly redecorated Oval Office.](http://static.politico.com/24/25/48e16bcf438ebf15c7790c6b5ea1/img-0666.JPG)
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> Gold on gold on gold. With gold accents. :rolleyes:

Rather muted by his standards. I don’t see a single portrait of himself.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2017, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10503 "2017-08-22T02:27:06Z")

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Sending more troops to Afghanistan to “kill terrorists” but somehow that’s going to create “everlasting peace”, because he has no desire for nation building.

People are also commenting on his sniffing through the whole speech.

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