# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2017, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10684 "2017-08-27T17:31:26Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Does Harvey have his papers? BUILD THAT WALL!
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> :rolleyes:

As he hit the Galveston Seawall he was a Harvey Wallbanger 😃

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2017, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10685 "2017-08-27T18:08:37Z")

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Good thing we pulled out from that climate-change accord, eh? Clearly, climate change is a hoax! This storm is purely a coincidence. :rolleyes:

As for Traitor Trump’s Charlottesville remarks, campaign-style rallies Arpaio pardon etc, I’m hearing speculation that he’s pandering to his base because he may be planning to take his base, split them off from the Republican Party and form a separate party with them. Normally I would dismiss this sort of musing, but anything is possible with this piece-of-shit president.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2017, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10686 "2017-08-27T18:20:01Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Tillerson giving Trump a [glowing endorsement](http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/27/tillerson-trump-fox-charlottesville-gorka-242073). Wait. What’s the opposite of a glowing endorsement?\*

Thankfully Tillerson, despite being a Trump crony, is taking the job seriously and working hard to do the right things.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2017, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10687 "2017-08-27T18:24:38Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> Thankfully Tillerson, despite being a Trump crony, is taking the job seriously and working hard to do the right things.

… which means he’ll be out soon.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2017, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10688 "2017-08-27T18:24:43Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> Thankfully Tillerson, despite being a Trump crony, is taking the job seriously and working hard to do the right things.

Only a matter of time before Trump goes after Tillerson for being too competent and stealing the spotlight.

ETA: ninja’d!

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2017, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10689 "2017-08-27T18:37:01Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Tillerson giving Trump a [glowing endorsement](http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/27/tillerson-trump-fox-charlottesville-gorka-242073). Wait. What’s the opposite of a glowing endorsement?
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> \*“We express America’s values from the State Department. We represent the American people, we represent America’s values, our commitment to freedom, our commitment to equal treatment of people the world over and that message has never changed,” Tillerson said. “I don’t believe anyone doubts the American people’s values or the commitment of the American government or the government’s agencies to advancing those values and defending those values.”
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> “And the president’s values?” Fox anchor Chris Wallace followed up, to which the secretary of state replied: “The president speaks for himself, Chris.”
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> “Are you separating yourself from that, sir?” Wallace asked.
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> “I’ve spoken — I’ve made my own comments as to our values as well in a speech I gave to the State Department this past week,” Tillerson said. \*

Stunning.

“The world is aghast at the steaming turd this administration has deposited on the white carpeting.”

“That’s the president’s turd.”

“Are you saying you had no role in that turd being there?”

“The president poops when and where he wants. I, personally, would not poop on the plushy white carpeting.”

So then the dilemma for Rex: Do you resign because this man is clearly insane and can’t control his bowels? Or stick around and make sure he doesn’t start smearing the shit on the drapes?

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2017, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10690 "2017-08-27T18:37:53Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> Thankfully Tillerson, despite being a Trump crony, is taking the job seriously and working hard to do the right things.

Isn’t he actively working to dismantle the State Department and giving no leadership or input on how diplomacy should be conducted?

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2017, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10691 "2017-08-27T18:54:13Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> Isn’t he actively working to dismantle the State Department and giving no leadership or input on how diplomacy should be conducted?

Won’t need the State Department after [peace is achieved in the Middle East](http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/22/kushner-in-middle-east-for-peace-talks-241895).

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2017, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10692 "2017-08-27T19:20:03Z")

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Gorka is back at Breitbart. In other words, the White House farm team.

> **[Gorka says he's heading back to Breitbart](https://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2017/08/26/sebastian-gorka-breitbart-return-242066)**
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> “I will be working with you, with Steve, with the Breitbart crew,” Gorka says.

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**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2017, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10693 "2017-08-27T20:30:28Z")

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while watching water rescues ongoing in Texas I can’t help thinking there must have been some way to be prepared _ahead of time_, instead of “looking for resources” at this point.

which is what Sen Cruz said he was doing - and he is inspired by the volunteers pitching in.

no mention of\* why they have to\* in a first world country :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2017, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10694 "2017-08-27T20:42:46Z")

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There’s been so much happening in the past few days that I’m not sure if this has been posted, yet:

The UN has issued a warning to the USA over Trump’s Charlottesville remarks, citing alarm over the “racist demonstrations” and calling on the US government to “unequivocally and unconditionally” speak out against such overt race hatred—which Trump so far has declined to do.

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> Such statements are usually issued by the United Nations committee on the elimination of racial discrimination (Cerd) over fears of ethnic or religious conflict. In the past decade, the only other countries issued with early warnings have been Burundi, Iraq, Ivory Coast, Kyrgyzstan and Nigeria.

[Charlottesville: United Nations warns US over 'alarming' racism | Race | The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/23/charlottesville-un-committee-warns-us-over-rise-of-racism)

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2017, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10695 "2017-08-27T20:45:08Z")

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We got a yellow card… better not foul anyone again.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2017, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10696 "2017-08-27T21:35:21Z")

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Unfortunately, most of his supporters are in the “UN GO HOME!” camp and will look at this as a point of pride.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2017, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10697 "2017-08-27T23:07:31Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Unfortunately, most of his supporters are in the “UN GO HOME!” camp and will look at this as a point of pride.

True enough. But they should be reminded that their hero’s failures has put the USA in the same group as Burundi, Iraq, Ivory Coast, Kyrgyzstan and Nigeria. Let them point to _that_ with pride, too.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2017, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10698 "2017-08-27T23:23:00Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> True enough. But they should be reminded that their hero’s failures has put the USA in the same group as Burundi, Iraq, Ivory Coast, Kyrgyzstan and Nigeria. Let them point to _that_ with pride, too.

Don’t worry. They’re twisted minds will quickly find a way to do just that.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10699 "2017-08-28T00:33:21Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> So then the dilemma for Rex: Do you resign because this man is clearly insane and can’t control his bowels? Or stick around and make sure he doesn’t start smearing the shit on the drapes?

This is the issue for the (very) few competent, or at least qualified, people in its administration. They are trying to put out the San Francisco fire of 1851, and all their boss has given them is a glass of water. Half-empty, because there is no way to be an optimist in all of this.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10700 "2017-08-28T01:36:36Z")

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> [@jasg](#):
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> As he hit the Galveston Seawall he was a Harvey Wallbanger 😃

Required link: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OZBPK2N7qw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OZBPK2N7qw)

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10701 "2017-08-28T01:48:42Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> True enough. But they should be reminded that their hero’s failures has put the USA in the same group as Burundi, Iraq, Ivory Coast, Kyrgyzstan and Nigeria. Let them point to _that_ with pride, too.

Oh, they will. Anyone who’s still in the Dear Leader Trump camp already thinks that if it makes the Communists (i.e., everyone else but them) crazy then it’s an absolute positive.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10702 "2017-08-28T02:31:09Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> I’m hearing speculation that the shameful Arpaio pardon is a signal to his cohorts that they should not worry about being pressured by the FBI in the Russian probe and cut some sort of deal that would rat him out, that if they’ll stay loyal, he’ll simply pardon them.

I heard the same thing.  
BUT if they trust him to actually keep his word, they better get a reality check. he is the king of broken deals.

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10703 "2017-08-28T21:15:40Z")

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