# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 542
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10824 "2017-09-02T05:19:53Z")
If John Kelly punched Trump in his big mouth, I wonder how inexplicably slow the Secret Service would be to pull him off? I gotta think that they hate him, too. ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10825 "2017-09-02T05:51:26Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > If John Kelly punched Trump in his big mouth, I wonder how inexplicably slow the Secret Service would be to pull him off? I gotta think that they hate him, too. From what I’ve heard of General Kelly, he might punch Trump - and heaven help the Secret Service agent who _was_ slack in their duty and slow to pull him off. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 8:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10826 "2017-09-02T08:31:59Z")
What are the odds that Trump fires Kelly and replaces him with the currently without a job Sheriff David Clarke, who has been rumored for a spot that needs no senate approval in Trump’s administration? Why not at this point? There’s an old saying that I’m not sure if I made up or not: If you’re going to dance, do the cha-cha. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10827 "2017-09-02T08:51:06Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > What are the odds that Trump fires Kelly and replaces him with the currently without a job Sheriff David Clarke, who has been rumored for a spot that needs no senate approval in Trump’s administration? Kelly doesn’t strike me as the “Gosh and golly sir, thank you for firing me” type Priebus was. Trump cans him, he’ll tell the media everything he knows because he respects the office more than the man. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10828 "2017-09-02T13:51:26Z")
“As all of you know first-hand, our nation’s violent crime rate is rising. In many of our urban areas,\*\*\* this increase is staggering.\*\*\*” — J.B. Sessions III Jeffy-Bo Sessions is ready to take action in response to the violent crime wave sweeping the nation. The lamestream media is poking fun at his “ignorance,” but as you [see from this graph](https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/files/2017/08/nationcrime.png&w=1484) Jeffie-Bo has the facts on his side. Yes, the graph stops at 2015 — that’s because the FBI is run by lazy gummint "workers who triple-check their figures while taking ten donut breaks a day — but that doesn’t matter: _the surge from 2014 to 2015 is what Sessions referred to_ and that surge is plainly visible in the graph. Click to magnify if the sharp increase isn’t clear at the default respolution. From its 45-year low in 2014, the crime rate has skytocketed all the way to 373 in 2015 and, if unchecked, may soon reach the 1971 high of 396! But Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III is on the job and is giving high priority to combatting this sudden surge in violent crime. Americans should thank their lucky stars that Jeffie-Bo is on the job. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10829 "2017-09-02T14:02:21Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > “As all of you know first-hand, our nation’s violent crime rate is rising. In many of our urban areas,\*\*\* this increase is staggering.\*\*\*” — J.B. Sessions III > > Jeffy-Bo Sessions is ready to take action in response to the violent crime wave sweeping the nation. The lamestream media is poking fun at his “ignorance,” but as you [see from this graph](https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/files/2017/08/nationcrime.png&w=1484) Jeffie-Bo has the facts on his side. Yes, the graph stops at 2015 — that’s because the FBI is run by lazy gummint "workers who triple-check their figures while taking ten donut breaks a day — but that doesn’t matter: _the surge from 2014 to 2015 is what Sessions referred to_ and that surge is plainly visible in the graph. Click to magnify if the sharp increase isn’t clear at the default respolution. > > From its 45-year low in 2014, the crime rate has skytocketed all the way to 373 in 2015 and, if unchecked, may soon reach the 1971 high of 396! > > But Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III is on the job and is giving high priority to combatting this sudden surge in violent crime. Americans should thank their lucky stars that Jeffie-Bo is on the job. Chief among Trump&Co.'s weapons are: Fear, Lies and a Fanatical Devotion to The Donald. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10830 "2017-09-02T14:48:14Z")
And many DHS personnel with automatic weapons. Wait, I’ll come in again. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10831 "2017-09-02T15:09:09Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Kelly doesn’t strike me as the “Gosh and golly sir, thank you for firing me” type Priebus was. Trump cans him, he’ll tell the media everything he knows because he respects the office more than the man. I think that if Trump pushes Kelly out, then Mattis, McMaster, and Cohn might follow him out the door within a matter of months, if not weeks. And who exactly does Trump think he could replace them with? He’s lucky to have anyone with half a brain who wants to even associate with him right now? Seriously, I don’t for the life of me understand how any conservative with even a room temperature IQ can look at this and not conclude that this is an epic disaster of a presidency in the making. And remember, we’re just watching this hurricane of shit start to form. It’ll get worse. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10832 "2017-09-02T15:14:26Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > “As all of you know first-hand, our nation’s violent crime rate is rising. In many of our urban areas,\*\*\* this increase is staggering.\*\*\*” — J.B. Sessions III > > Jeffy-Bo Sessions is ready to take action in response to the violent crime wave sweeping the nation. The lamestream media is poking fun at his “ignorance,” but as you [see from this graph](https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/files/2017/08/nationcrime.png&w=1484) Jeffie-Bo has the facts on his side. Yes, the graph stops at 2015 — that’s because the FBI is run by lazy gummint "workers who triple-check their figures while taking ten donut breaks a day — but that doesn’t matter: _the surge from 2014 to 2015 is what Sessions referred to_ and that surge is plainly visible in the graph. Click to magnify if the sharp increase isn’t clear at the default respolution. > > From its 45-year low in 2014, the crime rate has skytocketed all the way to 373 in 2015 and, if unchecked, may soon reach the 1971 high of 396! > > But Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III is on the job and is giving high priority to combatting this sudden surge in violent crime. Americans should thank their lucky stars that Jeffie-Bo is on the job. The real facts and the real statistics say Sessions is a fucking liar. But it is not ignorance, it is deliberate. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10833 "2017-09-02T15:22:49Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I think that if Trump pushes Kelly out, then Mattis, McMaster, and Cohn might follow him out the door within a matter of months, if not weeks. And who exactly does Trump think he could replace them with? He’s lucky to have anyone with half a brain who wants to even associate with him right now? He’ll have to go after people with 1/4 of a brain. Unfortunately there are plenty of them around. > [@](#): > > Seriously, I don’t for the life of me understand how any conservative with even a room temperature IQ can look at this and not conclude that this is an epic disaster of a presidency in the making. And remember, we’re just watching this hurricane of shit start to form. It’ll get worse. That is the ongoing mystery. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10834 "2017-09-02T15:32:34Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Seriously, I don’t for the life of me understand how any conservative with even a room temperature IQ can look at this and not conclude that this is an epic disaster of a presidency in the making. And remember, we’re just watching this hurricane of shit start to form. It’ll get worse. Because they helped make it happen. And I don’t just mean the vote last year. Admitting that Trump is a bad president means admitting that maybe Benghazi wasn’t all Hillary’s fault, and maybe Obama wasn’t born in Kenya, and maybe scientists who have been studying climate for decades know more than they do, and maybe tax cuts don’t fix everything, and maybe, just maybe, CNN is trying to tell them something they should know. They’re too invested at this point. To admit that Trump is wrong is to admit that they’ve been wrong for decades. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10835 "2017-09-02T15:38:27Z")
Twain had a line, somewhere, about how its much easier to fool somebody than to convince them that they have _been_ fooled. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10836 "2017-09-02T15:38:55Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Because they helped make it happen. And I don’t just mean the vote last year. Admitting that Trump is a bad president means admitting that maybe Benghazi wasn’t all Hillary’s fault, and maybe Obama wasn’t born in Kenya, and maybe scientists who have been studying climate for decades know more than they do, and maybe tax cuts don’t fix everything, and maybe, just maybe, CNN is trying to tell them something they should know. **They’re too invested at this point. To admit that Trump is wrong is to admit that they’ve been wrong for decades**. Trump is not THE problem, he is only part of the problem and Thing created by them. He is their inbred idiot relative, escaped from the attic. This shit storm did not magically appear out of no where. The Repubs are Dr. Frankenstein, and Trump is their creature. The only thing different is, he is openly saying and doing things they’ve been hinting, whispering, and dog-whistling since the 1960’s. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10837 "2017-09-02T15:42:51Z")
Is [that other](http://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/white-house-aide-omarosa-being-forced-out-by-kelly-for-getting-trump-worked-up-over-negative-press-report/) reality TV loud-mouth know-nothing the next to get the ax? ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10838 "2017-09-02T15:50:19Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Yeah…remember **that “fundraiser” he held during the campaign, where he didn’t actually cut a check until the media put a gun to his head**? > > Back to Happy’s point…I think we’re just experiencing outrage fatigue. This week we’ve had the “our boy” memo, and Trump using Harvey as a ball cap marketing opportunity, and now he’s ranting about Comey again. But it’s all business-as-usual. Yeah, he collected money for the veterans and then tried to keep it. That one. Right? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10839 "2017-09-02T16:00:27Z")
Not\* all \*of it! See, right there, fake news! ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10840 "2017-09-02T16:06:13Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Not\* all \*of it! See, right there, fake news! Unfair! So sad! Failing! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10841 "2017-09-02T17:27:41Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Is [that other](http://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/white-house-aide-omarosa-being-forced-out-by-kelly-for-getting-trump-worked-up-over-negative-press-report/) reality TV loud-mouth know-nothing the next to get the ax? [La Toya Jackson](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2295061/Celebrity-Apprentice-2013-La-Toya-Jackson-shocks-fired.html): “'Omarosa is the most evil person I have ever met”. I can totally believe it. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10842 "2017-09-02T17:46:26Z")
Frankly, I’m stunned that Trump is not only returning to a place that does not have one of his properties but most likely, no usable golf courses of any type. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/10843 "2017-09-02T20:00:17Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Given that, I must assume that they are not actually legally married. 😃 Never legally married or no longer legally married? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=541) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=543)