# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 551
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11004 "2017-09-07T20:24:58Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > [Betsy DeVos announced that there will be new rules pertaining to how campus rapes are investigated](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CAMPUS_SEXUAL_ASSAULT?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-09-07-14-39-41). Mind you, she didn’t announce the new rules, because there aren’t any. Yet. In fact, she hasn’t even started making new rules, instead she has said she “would seek feedback from the public and universities, and develop new rules.” > > The whole thing was really just an elaborately staged dis of Obama and his administration, paid for by the taxpayers. Or am I wrong on that? You’re right, of course, though it’s also “make the liberals cry” and “let the ladies know their proper place.” When the reins of power are put in their hands, all these people can come up with to do is to express their spite and malice. That’s it. That’s all they’ve got. They are truly “reactionaries,” as they are incapable of _action_. What a pitiful commentary this is on the personal character of Ms. DeVos. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11005 "2017-09-07T20:37:41Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > What a pitiful commentary this is on the personal character of Ms. DeVos. Aye; this was my single biggest takeaway from the whole event. How sad is she: to gain the national stage and use it for _this_. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11006 "2017-09-07T21:15:21Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > [Betsy DeVos announced that there will be new rules pertaining to how campus rapes are investigated](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CAMPUS_SEXUAL_ASSAULT?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-09-07-14-39-41). Mind you, she didn’t announce the new rules, because there aren’t any. Yet. In fact, she hasn’t even started making new rules, instead she has said she “would seek feedback from the public and universities, and develop new rules.” > > The whole thing was really just an elaborately staged dis of Obama and his administration, paid for by the taxpayers. Or am I wrong on that? I assume that she’ll come up with rules that are palatable to her right-wing religious extremist base. Something like “It’s only rape if three village elders personally witnessed it, and are willing to swear an oath, otherwise the lying whore will be stoned to death” ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11007 "2017-09-07T21:38:04Z")
I think the rules should be in line with their anti-drug program which are elegant in their simplicity. “Just say No!” After all, if nobody commits rape, or reports rape, there will be no need for complicated investigations and rules. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11008 "2017-09-07T21:49:22Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I assume that she’ll come up with rules that are palatable to her right-wing religious extremist base. Something like “It’s only rape if three village elders personally witnessed it, and are willing to swear an oath, otherwise the lying whore will be stoned to death” Could take a cue from Dubai. If a girl complains of rape, charge her with being drunk and lewd. Hi-5 the rapist. ---
**Author:** ![Trancephalic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trancephalic/32/380_2.png) [@Trancephalic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trancephalic)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11009 "2017-09-07T21:50:29Z")
I’m in no position to complain considering how many people have to abide the chintzy citadels of Trump’s Potemkin empire, but DeVos is a big name around here and I can stand the sight of it anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11010 "2017-09-07T22:56:40Z")
> [@Catamount](#): > > I am so tempted to get a group of people together to stand around and laugh at Jeffy-Bo wherever he goes. If he’s busy prosecuting humor he doesn’t have time to damage our justice system any more than he already has. > [@Sherrerd](#): > > This is actually quite a good idea. Sessions, among all members of this Administration, is probably the one doing the most harm to the nation. Keeping him busy with prosecutions of those who laugh at him would be a major public service. > > And it’s not as though you’d have to hire trained actors who can ‘laugh on cue’—Sessions is so intrinsically comical a figure that any randomly-chosen patriots could do the job. This has to be thirded. If whackiness can bum-out neo-nazis from marching in [Wundsiedel, Germany,](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/17/opinion/how-to-make-fun-of-nazis.html?mcubz=1) then a good healthy gaggle of dingbats (of which I _totally_ wish I could be a part of - hell - I’d fuckin’ _spearhead_ it with my custom [Ed McMahon @ :14](https://youtu.be/q-aRER7ssUo?t=10)) could and _should_ assemble and give it to the little barfweasel whenever possible - even if this means clandestinely stalking him around in the capitol building. In numbers. Many people doing this. Too many to make multiple arrests an optically kosher thing to try. If I lived in the DC area and was a facebooker I’d be all over that shit. Being a Canuck might not help a whole lot in that regard. And speaking of that beady-eyed little smarmwad (no, not me - that other fucker), looks like he finally got his scumbag wishes, yesterday, to remove (after a second attempt) an amendment that [allowed the cultivation, sale, and consumption of cannabis in states with a legal medical framework to continue without interference from the Drug Enforcement Agency.](https://www.straight.com/cannabis/961501/thanks-jeff-sessions-states-medical-cannabis-could-soon-be-subject-dea-enforcement) > [@](#): > > Without the amendment, dispensary owners and operators, budtenders, doctors, cannabis users and others in the space could face federal charges for both current and past activity. > > We can assume that all involved are hoping that, with support from Senators Cory Booker, Rand Paul, Bernie Sanders, and Mike Lee, among others, the protection could be added back into the budget when it reaches the Senate. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11011 "2017-09-07T23:22:18Z")
So… The Trump Revocable Trust has an Ethics Attorney assigned to it, a Mr Bobby Burchard of King & Spalding. Mr. Burchard is married to the loving and adoring Teresa Jo. Perhaps, though, maybe too loving. Teresa Jo was arrested yesterday for having sex with a convict in her car while parked in the parking lot of the correctional facility. Well, to give her credit, she was really arrested for passing contraband off to an inmate. I don’t think they’re pressing charges on the sex (likely a BJ). She and the new man in her life have been involved for about a month. Special bonus! Hubby was Dubya’s General Counsel during the 2000 election crisis! > **[Court records: Wife of Trump Org ethics attorney arrested after tryst with...](https://www.fauquier.com/news/court-records-wife-of-trump-org-ethics-attorney-arrested-after/article_04083c9a-930a-11e7-8f7f-43944bf28329.html)** > > An ongoing investigation into “suspicious” activity in the back seat of a car involving an inmate trustee at the Fauquier County jail led to the Tuesday arrest of Teresa Jo ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11012 "2017-09-08T00:32:49Z")
> [@Eddie The Horrible](#): > > This has to be thirded. > If whackiness can bum-out neo-nazis from marching in [Wundsiedel, Germany,](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/17/opinion/how-to-make-fun-of-nazis.html?mcubz=1) then a good healthy gaggle of dingbats (of which I _totally_ wish I could be a part of - hell - I’d fuckin’ _spearhead_ it with my custom [Ed McMahon @ :14](https://youtu.be/q-aRER7ssUo?t=10)) could and _should_ assemble and give it to the little barfweasel whenever possible - even if this means clandestinely stalking him around in the capitol building. > In numbers. > Many people doing this. Too many to make multiple arrests an optically kosher thing to try. > If I lived in the DC area and was a facebooker I’d be all over that shit. > Being a Canuck might not help a whole lot in that regard. > > And speaking of that beady-eyed little smarmwad (no, not me - that other fucker), looks like he finally got his scumbag wishes, yesterday, to remove (after a second attempt) an amendment that [allowed the cultivation, sale, and consumption of cannabis in states with a legal medical framework to continue without interference from the Drug Enforcement Agency.](https://www.straight.com/cannabis/961501/thanks-jeff-sessions-states-medical-cannabis-could-soon-be-subject-dea-enforcement) Right. So, Jeff ‘Little Ball of Hate’ Sessions thinks that a new prohibition is a good idea. The MJ industry in Colorado employs 10,000 people. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11013 "2017-09-08T01:02:51Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > So… > > The Trump Revocable Trust has an Ethics Attorney assigned to it, a Mr Bobby Burchard of King & Spalding. Mr. Burchard is married to the loving and adoring Teresa Jo. > > Perhaps, though, maybe too loving. Teresa Jo was arrested yesterday for having sex with a convict in her car while parked in the parking lot of the correctional facility. Well, to give her credit, she was really arrested for passing contraband off to an inmate. I don’t think they’re pressing charges on the sex (likely a BJ). > > She and the new man in her life have been involved for about a month. > > Special bonus! Hubby was Dubya’s General Counsel during the 2000 election crisis! > > [Court records: Wife of Trump Org ethics attorney arrested after tryst with Fauquier inmate](http://www.fauquier.com/news/court-records-wife-of-trump-org-ethics-attorney-arrested-after/article_04083c9a-930a-11e7-8f7f-43944bf28329.html) You can’t make this shit up. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11014 "2017-09-08T01:05:51Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > So… > > The Trump Revocable Trust has an Ethics Attorney assigned to it, a Mr Bobby Burchard of King & Spalding. Mr. Burchard is married to the loving and adoring Teresa Jo. > > Perhaps, though, maybe too loving. Teresa Jo was arrested yesterday for having sex with a convict in her car while parked in the parking lot of the correctional facility. Well, to give her credit, she was really arrested for passing contraband off to an inmate. I don’t think they’re pressing charges on the sex (likely a BJ). > > She and the new man in her life have been involved for about a month. > > Special bonus! Hubby was Dubya’s General Counsel during the 2000 election crisis! > > [Court records: Wife of Trump Org ethics attorney arrested after tryst with Fauquier inmate](http://www.fauquier.com/news/court-records-wife-of-trump-org-ethics-attorney-arrested-after/article_04083c9a-930a-11e7-8f7f-43944bf28329.html) Where do they find these people? I guess if your circle for friends and associates are all scum, you skim the scum off the pond. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11015 "2017-09-08T01:12:33Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Where do they find these people? I guess if your circle for friends and associates are all scum, you skim the scum off the pond. Even that ethical type scum. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11016 "2017-09-08T01:49:51Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Right. So, Jeff ‘Little Ball of Hate’ Sessions thinks that a new prohibition is a good idea. > > The MJ industry in Colorado employs 10,000 people. Schedule One and Trickydick’s Drug War was [aimed directly at](http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/23/politics/john-ehrlichman-richard-nixon-drug-war-blacks-hippie/index.html) negros and hippies. The enemy of his “silent majority”. I would imagine Jeffbo E. Newman perceives a very similar foescape. What a great tool he has, right there in place, to continue to beat down and subjugate the forces of evil and uppitiness. Ten, twenty, fifty thousand wounded in the crossfire, so what? Every noble war yields collateral damage and innocent victims. The Cause must prevail! ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11017 "2017-09-08T01:54:02Z")
Courts, again, tell Trump to go fuck himself. (Extended family travel ban hatred from mr. cheeto.) > **[Court rejects Trump administration on travel ban exemptions](https://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/07/court-rejects-trump-administration-attempt-to-include-extended-family-in-travel-ban-242461)** > > Grandparents, cousins of Americans get reprieve, as do many refugees. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11018 "2017-09-08T02:40:56Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Schedule One and Trickydick’s Drug War was [aimed directly at](http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/23/politics/john-ehrlichman-richard-nixon-drug-war-blacks-hippie/index.html) negros and hippies. The enemy of his “silent majority”. I would imagine Jeffbo E. Newman perceives a very similar foescape. What a great tool he has, right there in place, to continue to beat down and subjugate the forces of evil and uppitiness. Ten, twenty, fifty thousand wounded in the crossfire, so what? Every noble war yields collateral damage and innocent victims. The Cause must prevail! What Sessions (and Nixon) don’t understand is their crosshairs are firmly aimed at everyone. It’s aimed at jobs, it’s aimed at heath care and medical research. It’s aimed at people just trying to have a better life. I am a care giver for my 88 yo mother. As I’m in Colorado, I don’t need the med MJ care giver cert any longer. Cracked vertebra, and a broken hip has left my mother in pain. MJ lotion has helped for that. The big help for my 88 yo mother is a drop of CBD tincture under her tongue. It prevents the onset of a migraine (this needs to be studied). These fuckers are actively trying to prevent medical research. As they don’t seem to give a shit about anyone but themselves, let’s see them fight people that actually care about, and have loved ones. You want war? You got it. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11019 "2017-09-08T03:13:39Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Courts, again, tell Trump to go fuck himself. > (Extended family travel ban hatred from mr. cheeto.) > [http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/07/court-rejects-trump-administration-attempt-to-include-extended-family-in-travel-ban-242461](http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/07/court-rejects-trump-administration-attempt-to-include-extended-family-in-travel-ban-242461) Groovy news awesomeness! from article: > [@](#): > > Asked about the appeals court decision, a White House official expressed confidence in the legal underpinnings of Trump’s directive. > > “The president’s travel order is well within his legal authority and keeps our nation safe,” said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. “The Department of Justice will vigorously defend it.” Oh let it fucking go, move onto other items on the table (already too much this month for congress) and try to um…govern? > [@](#): > > Now, the Trump administration seems intent on again asking the justices to address the definition of close family and to clarify which refugees are exempt under the high court’s June order. Oh again, please, just fuck off! ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11020 "2017-09-08T03:24:52Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Where do they find these people? I guess if your circle for friends and associates are all scum, you skim the scum off the pond. Shit rolls downhill. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11021 "2017-09-08T10:50:53Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > America’s President’s second-favorite dictator, President Dutarte of the Philippines, says he will support his military if they rape women during martial law. > [Philippines President Duterte Says His Soldiers Can Rape During Martial Law](https://www.yahoo.com/news/philippines-president-duterte-says-soldiers-050509711.html) Trump loves Duterte because Duterte has ordered the extrajudicial killing of suspected drug dealers. Extrajudicial executions advance the Republican ideals of small government: no money need be wasted on arrest, trial or, if selling dime bags is not a capital offense, incarceration. When the ex-PM of Thailand (now himself a fugitive criminal) ran a contest among Governors and Police Chiefs to see who could order the most extrajudicial killings, I hypothesized (since high-ranking police and politicians here tend to be the criminal bosses) that many of the killings were ordered _against competitors_. The state-sanctioned murder spree forced up the price of meth, which delighted the drug dealers who were “in with the in-crowd.” And it turns out that _ **the same scenario may be at work with Duterte’s war on drugs.** _ A foreign intelligence source has accused Duterte’s son and son-in-law of being the kingpins of a major ring of crystal meth smugglers. There’s been no conviction or even AFAIK arrest, [but the President has urged his son to plead the equivalent of Fifth-Amendment rights and there are huge unexplained bank accounts.](http://www.philstar.com/opinion/2017/09/08/1736880/trillanes-links-duterte-son-chinese-triads) I don’t know how Trump feels about this. I’ll guess Trump’s sons are just too incompetent to be drug kingpins. And Jared’s daddy went to federal prison for noble Republican crimes like witness tampering and financial frauds. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11022 "2017-09-08T12:07:33Z")
[Here is how the stupid sumbitch is affecting our allies](http://m.koreatimes.co.kr/phone/news/view.jsp?req_newsidx=236188): > [@](#): > > “The Trump administration is in trouble in its domestic politics. It needs to show some achievement for its supporters, and it is likely to take Korea as a scapegoat,” Choi said. Why can’t the callous ass hurry up and die? ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11023 "2017-09-08T13:47:45Z")
> [@Eddie The Horrible](#): > > from article:“The president’s travel order is well within his legal authority and keeps our nation safe,” said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. “The Department of Justice will vigorously defend it.” Funny how that travel ban is within Trump’s authority but DACA wasn’t in Obama’s authority. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=550) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=552)